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Safari and IE8 Were the First to Fall at Pwn2Own

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March 11, 2011 12:25:53 AM

No surprises.
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March 11, 2011 12:34:02 AM

It fascinates me how they can crack these browsers in seconds.
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March 11, 2011 12:44:44 AM

kilo_17It fascinates me how they can crack these browsers in seconds.

Why? Considering:
Fewer told Ars that it took him five to six weeks to put together the attack.
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March 11, 2011 12:46:17 AM

Do the hackers reveal their methods?
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March 11, 2011 12:48:48 AM

kilo_17It fascinates me how they can crack these browsers in seconds.


It fascinates me how people can take things so widely out of context. The amount of preparation is what you should look at, not the time frame from within the attack was executed.
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March 11, 2011 12:51:33 AM

kilo_17It fascinates me how they can crack these browsers in seconds.


They come up with the exploits prior to the contest and then when the contest starts it's just a case of just running it. Still very impressive, though. Particularly when you consider the fact that Apple patched Safari the day before the competition. That could easily have neutralized VUPEN's exploit.
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March 11, 2011 1:19:30 AM

This only shows that Apple is no better than Microsoft in terms of security. The ones who claim that "Mac OS is more secure than Windows" is because of its Unix nature, not because of Apple. Heck, even Mac OS is easily defeated during hacking events.

Makes you wonder how would be our security landscape if Apple did got 70-80% of world's computing resources.
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March 11, 2011 1:31:07 AM

These headlines are misleading!
Who falls first, second, third, etc. is all down to how the event is scheduled.
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March 11, 2011 1:49:12 AM

masterjawThis only shows that Apple is no better than Microsoft in terms of security. The ones who claim that "Mac OS is more secure than Windows" is because of its Unix nature, not because of Apple. Heck, even Mac OS is easily defeated during hacking events.Makes you wonder how would be our security landscape if Apple did got 70-80% of world's computing resources.


Steve will come out and say :

"You use the internet wrong."
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March 11, 2011 3:04:29 AM

JohnnyLuckyDo the hackers reveal their methods?
Yes they do, to the owners of the failed software so they can patch the exploits. These guys are known as "White Hat" hackers, or Crackers.

No, they do not publish them publicly to allow "Black Hat" hackers to exploit them for malicious purposes.

This is a professional event designed to test and FIX issues with the worlds popular Browsers and OS's
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March 11, 2011 3:37:12 AM

Can basically anything can be hacked?

Yes it can.

What was that quote from BTTF? Oh yeah, "If you put your mind to it, you can accomplish anything" Marty to George Mcfly.
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March 11, 2011 4:15:48 AM

I just wonder where IE9 and FF4.0 came in. Both are great browsers.

As for Safari, it shows just how vulnerable Mac OSX really is. Since Apple doesn't have many viruses, they don't worry about patching holes. I can imagine if a bad virus got out, a lot of Mac fans would be pissed.

But Jobes would just tell them they are using it wrong anyways.
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March 11, 2011 6:41:41 AM

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The hacker scheduled to take on Google’s Chrome on a Cr-48 Chrome OS notebook was a no-show.

Funny, and let's have a conspiracy theory about this too ;) 
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March 11, 2011 7:15:24 AM

"Safari and IE8 Were the First to Fall at Pwn2Own"

Shouldn't that be, "Safari was the first to fall at Pwn2Own"?

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March 11, 2011 8:08:47 AM

Would be interesting to see where Firefox with Adblock/Noscript/WOT protection would come in.
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March 11, 2011 10:39:35 AM

endgadget"Safari and IE8 Were the First to Fall at Pwn2Own"Shouldn't that be, "Safari was the first to fall at Pwn2Own"?

Yes, but that would be tantamount to admit that Safari (an Apple product) is less secure than IE8 (a Microsoft product). You will not see such a thing on certain websites, this one included.
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March 11, 2011 12:06:23 PM

virtualbanFunny, and let's have a conspiracy theory about this too


The hacker for Chrome must of been an no-show because he was too busy fighting off the army of Androids that Google sent out to hunt him down and "take him out".
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March 11, 2011 12:08:43 PM

house70Yes, but that would be tantamount to admit that Safari (an Apple product) is less secure than IE8 (a Microsoft product). You will not see such a thing on certain websites, this one included.

LOL
This isn't Hollywood. What the hackers do at pwn2own is execute attacks that were prepared and tested long before the event even started.
Which system falls first is determined by the organizers, who decide when a hacker gets to attack what, and has nothing whatsoever to do with security.
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March 11, 2011 12:17:40 PM

ShodarThe hacker for Chrome must of been an no-show because he was too busy fighting off the army of Androids that Google sent out to hunt him down and "take him out".

LOL
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Anonymous
March 11, 2011 2:43:39 PM

@molo9000

or the hacker could have failed at compromising the system, which has everything to do with security.....
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March 11, 2011 3:59:10 PM

Chrome wins with poorly written code. The hackers have difficulty understanding it, and everyone has difficulty writing programs for it.

Still this is quite an achievement for Microsoft. Safari cracked using an exploit from 5 iterations ago. IE8 requires 3 different hacks and it took weeks to develop. I am sure the same preperation would be needed for Firefox.
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March 11, 2011 4:08:32 PM

CompleteControl@molo9000or the hacker could have failed at compromising the system, which has everything to do with security.....

Yes but "first to fall" is meaningless.
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March 11, 2011 5:52:06 PM

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The hacker scheduled to take on Google’s Chrome on a Cr-48 Chrome OS notebook was a no-show


That's becuase some big black dressed men came to his door before hand warning him. lol
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Anonymous
March 11, 2011 6:07:07 PM

@molo9000

agreed, order of precedence has no impact what so ever, a failure is a failure no matter who goes first or last
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March 11, 2011 9:52:27 PM

Both Windows and MacOS are made to begineers so neither Apple nor MS care about advanced users and unusual usage. Security will never be a concern to them.

Guess why no-one complains about Linux security...
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Anonymous
March 12, 2011 3:53:11 AM

Ummm...My guess would be the like .5% market-share of Linux. I can guarantee you the Windows is far more secure than Linux.
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March 14, 2011 11:00:55 PM

RalifinUmmm...My guess would be the like .5% market-share of Linux. I can guarantee you the Windows is far more secure than Linux.

Ummm... Most of the Internet is running on Linux servers, practically all super computers are running Linux. And in the first competition by Pwn2Own there was PC running Ubuntu. The event ended and only un-hacked computer standing was the Ubuntu PC. Just because BestBuy don't sell Linux desktops and only knowledgeable users wipe the Windows and install Linux doesn't mean that Linux is not secure. In fact Linux was first to be attacked in the past. Before hackers started hacking desktops they were targeting the servers. On server market Linux is #1. With right support from smart and knowledgeable administrators the Linux is dam difficult to crack. (not impossible of course). MS has made some great improvements to Windows, but the legacy code is still huge problem. The biggest problem is the arrogant/ignorant and border line stupid users and nobody can fix that.
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March 16, 2011 7:20:15 AM

What do you expect from Apple.

Meanwhile, IE8 is, despite a lot of patches, full of holes as I see...
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