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Anonymous
June 8, 2005 3:46:19 PM

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I'm surprised the redumblican morons actually believe in scientific reports
enough to think they warrant changing.

Bush official altered scientific reports on global warming 45 minutes ago

WASHINGTON (AFP) - A White House official with no scientific training edited
government climate reports to play down the links between greenhouse gas
emissions and global warming, according to internal documents obtained by
The New York Times, the paper said.

Philip Cooney, chief of staff for the White House Council on Environmental
Quality, often would subtly alter documents -- for example adding
"significant and fundamental" before the word "uncertainties" -- to create
an air of doubt about findings few scientists dispute, said the daily
Wednesday.

On one document, Cooney added the work "extremely" to the sentence: "The
attribution of the causes of biological and ecological changes to climate
change or variability is extremely difficult."

The alterations Cooney made on drafts of several reports issued in 2002 and
2003 often appeared in the final reports, said the daily.

Cooney, who before working at the White House in 2001 was a lobbyist at the
American Petroleum Institute and led the oil industry's fight against limits
on greenhouse gases, is a lawyer with a bachelor's degree in economics and
lacks scientific training, the daily said.

Rick Piltz, who resigned in March as a senior associate in the office that
coordinates government climate research, said in a memorandum sent to top US
officials last week that editing of scientific reports tainted official
efforts to establish the causes of climate change.

"Each administration has a policy position on climate change," Piltz wrote,
according to The New York Times. "But I have not seen a situation like the
one that has developed under this administration during the past four years,
in which politicization by the White House has fed back directly into the
science program in such a way as to undermine the credibility and integrity
of the program."
June 9, 2005 8:50:55 PM

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"Global warming truth"

That's funny.

There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.

In fact, it's been easily proven that our average temperature is LOWER
than it was 50 years ago. That's in direct contradiction to the
"global warming" theory.

Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.
Anonymous
June 9, 2005 9:55:23 PM

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JustForFun wrote:
> "Global warming truth"
>
> That's funny.
>
> There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
> warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.
>
> In fact, it's been easily proven that our average temperature is LOWER
> than it was 50 years ago. That's in direct contradiction to the
> "global warming" theory.
>
> Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
> once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
> happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.

Dream on
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 2:57:42 AM

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JustForFun wrote:

> "Global warming truth"
>
> That's funny.
>
> There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
> warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.

There is an abundance of evidence that global warming is occurring.

>
> In fact, it's been easily proven that our average temperature is LOWER
> than it was 50 years ago. That's in direct contradiction to the
> "global warming" theory.

There is NO evidence that the average temperature is lower today than it
was 50 years ago. If you have some, please post it here.

>
> Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
> once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
> happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.

You are an idiot. What grade are you in? You're using the computer in
the library during recess, aren't you.
June 10, 2005 2:57:43 AM

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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:57:42 GMT, Lamont Cranston <Lamont@Shadow.com>
wrote:

>JustForFun wrote:
>
>> "Global warming truth"
>>
>> That's funny.
>>
>> There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
>> warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.
>
>There is an abundance of evidence that global warming is occurring.

Post it. There is NOTHING other than theory.

>> In fact, it's been easily proven that our average temperature is LOWER
>> than it was 50 years ago. That's in direct contradiction to the
>> "global warming" theory.
>
>There is NO evidence that the average temperature is lower today than it
>was 50 years ago.

Um, yes, there is.

>If you have some, please post it here.

http://yosemite.epa.gov/oar/globalwarming.nsf/content/C...

In the United States, temperatures in the last 50 years have cooled
in the East while warming in the West. Over the last 100 years, the
pattern is similar, except that New England is warmer than 100 years
ago because it warmed more in the first half of the 20th century by
more than it cooled in the second half.

Lessee...the eastern half of the US isn't effected by the ozone? In
fact it's cooling? That's pretty interesting since the Eastern half of
the U.S. is where a good majority of the industry that supposedly
CAUSES the ozone problem exists. And New England WARMED more in the
the first half of the century than it COOLED in the latter half? How
is that possible?

Here's a good one:

http://www.christiansciencemonitor.com/2002/0118/p02s01...

Guess what? Antarctica's getting colder, not warmer

The Earth's polar regions long have been considered canaries in the
coal mine on climate change - the first places to look, many
scientists said, to learn whether the planet's temperature is, in
fact, rising. Indeed, climate models generally predict that the
heating of the atmosphere - precipitated by global warming - will
cause the vast layer of ice that covers Antarctica to melt, raising
sea levels and changing regional climate patterns by altering ocean
currents.

Two studies of temperatures and ice-cap movements in Antarctica
suggest that the Southern Hemisphere's "canary" isn't going down
without a fight - key sections of the ice cap appear to be growing
thicker, not thinner, as previously believed. And the continent's
average temperature appears to have cooled slightly during the past 35
years, not warmed.

Imagine that. You DO understand what this means, right? It means you
are a FOOL with a big mouth attached to Al Gores nut sack.

>> Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
>> once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
>> happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.
>
>You are an idiot. What grade are you in? You're using the computer in
>the library during recess, aren't you.

Your personal attacks don't excuse your ignorance, no matter how much
you wish they would. I can come up with much more appropriate
attacks...see above.
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 4:46:03 AM

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<mordacpreventor@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>> I find your display of intellectual prowess to be entertaining. Please
>> do
>> continue. there isn't nearly enough stupidity on Usenet these days, and
>> I
>> believe you may be able to help correct this oversight.
>
>
> No lie.
>
> This guy alone is worth 10 stand-up comics.

Let me guess - you're in what, the impeach.bush newsgroup? Figures. If you
see a goathumping troll, you're bound to look up and see a bridge...

Venger
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 6:31:55 AM

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On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 16:50:55 -0500, JustForFun
<justforfun69@bellsouth.net> wrote:


>
>Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
>once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
>happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.

LOL
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 7:30:47 AM

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"JustForFun" <justforfun69@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:57:42 GMT, Lamont Cranston <Lamont@Shadow.com>
> wrote:
>
>>JustForFun wrote:
>>
>>> "Global warming truth"
>>>
>>> That's funny.
>>>
>>> There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
>>> warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.
>>
>>There is an abundance of evidence that global warming is occurring.
>
> Post it. There is NOTHING other than theory.

The clown will simply restate his assertion, as if restating it is proof.

>>> Give up the propoganda web sites and try using some common sense for
>>> once in your life or do please explain how a "hole in the ozone"
>>> happens since the ozone is made of gas. You can't punch a hole in gas.
>>
>>You are an idiot. What grade are you in? You're using the computer in
>>the library during recess, aren't you.
>
> Your personal attacks don't excuse your ignorance, no matter how much
> you wish they would. I can come up with much more appropriate
> attacks...see above.

Wait - you'll need to post your scientific bona fides shortly, as if you'd
win the argument if you were an astrophysics doctorate candidate from Cal
Tech, or lose if you'd thrice failed your GED. It's weak credentialism and
appeal to authority, but what do you expect - this is crossed to the giant
nut harvest known as alt.impeach.bush.

Venger
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 2:15:15 PM

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>
> I remember that in boot camp boots with some college were demeaned
> regularly.
>
wow, a post from 1954 just made it through!
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 7:16:46 PM

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"the Bede" <rspwsownthebede@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> >
>> I remember that in boot camp boots with some college were demeaned
>> regularly.
>>
> wow, a post from 1954 just made it through!

Genius.

Venger
Anonymous
June 10, 2005 7:17:13 PM

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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>>> Bush,Jr fails by either measure.
>>> Republicans who are serious about their country realize that he's a
>>> dummy
>>
>> Ah... nothing like a good question begging to start the day...
>>
>> Venger
>
> Every time he opens his mouth Bush,Jr
> demonstrates that he has *not* benefitted from
> "Academic achievement"
>
> He speaks like the uneducated out that he is

Really? Where is your MBA from, I forget?

Venger
Anonymous
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Venger wrote:
> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:7Qfqe.75931$CR5.9577@bignews1.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> Bush,Jr fails by either measure.
>>>> Republicans who are serious about their country realize that he's a
>>>> dummy
>>>
>>> Ah... nothing like a good question begging to start the day...
>>>
>>> Venger
>>
>> Every time he opens his mouth Bush,Jr
>> demonstrates that he has *not* benefitted from
>> "Academic achievement"
>>
>> He speaks like the uneducated out that he is
>
> Really? Where is your MBA from, I forget?
>
> Venger

It's an MS in Engineering and Management
Anonymous
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"Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
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>
>>> He speaks like the uneducated out that he is
>>
>> Really? Where is your MBA from, I forget?
>>
>> Venger
>
> It's an MS in Engineering and Management

Really? Class of Harvard what year?

Venger
Anonymous
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Venger wrote:
> "Sid9" <sid9@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:tziqe.77073$lQ3.41460@bignews5.bellsouth.net...
>>
>>>> He speaks like the uneducated out that he is
>>>
>>> Really? Where is your MBA from, I forget?
>>>
>>> Venger
>>
>> It's an MS in Engineering and Management
>
> Really? Class of Harvard what year?
>
> Venger

a. None of your business.
b. It's not Harvard......My name isn't Bush
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On Mon, 13 Jun 2005 14:44:50 GMT, Lamont Cranston <Lamont@Shadow.com>
wrote:

>JustForFun wrote:
>> On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:57:42 GMT, Lamont Cranston <Lamont@Shadow.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>JustForFun wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Global warming truth"
>>>>
>>>>That's funny.
>>>>
>>>>There has been NO scientific evidence to actually "prove" global
>>>>warming. It's a theory that has as many detractors as proponents.
>>>
>>>There is an abundance of evidence that global warming is occurring.
>>
>>
>> Post it. There is NOTHING other than theory.
>
>Wrong. There is a substantial amount of data.
>
>www.ncdc.noaa.gov/paleo/globalwarming/images/anomalies....



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/20...

The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame
By Michael Leidig and Roya Nikkhah
(Filed: 18/07/2004)

Global warming has finally been explained: the Earth is getting hotter
because the Sun is burning more brightly than at any time during the
past 1,000 years, according to new research.

A study by Swiss and German scientists suggests that increasing
radiation from the sun is responsible for recent global climate
changes.

Dr Sami Solanki, the director of the renowned Max Planck Institute for
Solar System Research in Gottingen, Germany, who led the research,
said: "The Sun has been at its strongest over the past 60 years and
may now be affecting global temperatures.

"The Sun is in a changed state. It is brighter than it was a few
hundred years ago and this brightening started relatively recently -
in the last 100 to 150 years."

Dr Solanki said that the brighter Sun and higher levels of "greenhouse
gases", such as carbon dioxide, both contributed to the change in the
Earth's temperature but it was impossible to say which had the greater
impact.

Average global temperatures have increased by about 0.2 deg Celsius
over the past 20 years and are widely believed to be responsible for
new extremes in weather patterns. After pressure from
environmentalists, politicians agreed the Kyoto Protocol in 1997,
promising to limit greenhouse gas emissions between 2008 and 2012.
Britain ratified the protocol in 2002 and said it would cut emissions
by 12.5 per cent from 1990 levels.

Globally, 1997, 1998 and 2002 were the hottest years since worldwide
weather records were first collated in 1860.

Most scientists agree that greenhouse gases from fossil fuels have
contributed to the warming of the planet in the past few decades but
have questioned whether a brighter Sun is also responsible for rising
temperatures.

To determine the Sun's role in global warming, Dr Solanki's research
team measured magnetic zones on the Sun's surface known as sunspots,
which are believed to intensify the Sun's energy output.

The team studied sunspot data going back several hundred years. They
found that a dearth of sunspots signalled a cold period - which could
last up to 50 years - but that over the past century their numbers had
increased as the Earth's climate grew steadily warmer. The scientists
also compared data from ice samples collected during an expedition to
Greenland in 1991. The most recent samples contained the lowest
recorded levels of beryllium 10 for more than 1,000 years. Beryllium
10 is a particle created by cosmic rays that decreases in the Earth's
atmosphere as the magnetic energy from the Sun increases. Scientists
can currently trace beryllium 10 levels back 1,150 years.

Dr Solanki does not know what is causing the Sun to burn brighter now
or how long this cycle would last.

He says that the increased solar brightness over the past 20 years has
not been enough to cause the observed climate changes but believes
that the impact of more intense sunshine on the ozone layer and on
cloud cover could be affecting the climate more than the sunlight
itself.

Dr Bill Burrows, a climatologist and a member of the Royal
Meteorological Society, welcomed Dr Solanki's research. "While the
established view remains that the sun cannot be responsible for all
the climate changes we have seen in the past 50 years or so, this
study is certainly significant," he said.

"It shows that there is enough happening on the solar front to merit
further research. Perhaps we are devoting too many resources to
correcting human effects on the climate without being sure that we are
the major contributor."

Dr David Viner, the senior research scientist at the University of
East Anglia's climatic research unit, said the research showed that
the sun did have an effect on global warming.

He added, however, that the study also showed that over the past 20
years the number of sunspots had remained roughly constant, while the
Earth's temperature had continued to increase.

This suggested that over the past 20 years, human activities such as
the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation had begun to dominate
"the natural factors involved in climate change", he said.

Dr Gareth Jones, a climate researcher at the Met Office, said that Dr
Solanki's findings were inconclusive because the study had not
incorporated other potential climate change factors.

"The Sun's radiance may well have an impact on climate change but it
needs to be looked at in conjunction with other factors such as
greenhouse gases, sulphate aerosols and volcano activity," he said.
The research adds weight to the views of David Bellamy, the
conservationist. "Global warming - at least the modern nightmare
version - is a myth," he said. "I am sure of it and so are a growing
number of scientists. But what is really worrying is that the world's
politicians and policy-makers are not.

"Instead, they have an unshakeable faith in what has, unfortunately,
become one of the central credos of the environmental movement: humans
burn fossil fuels, which release increased levels of carbon dioxide -
the principal so-called greenhouse gas - into the atmosphere, causing
the atmosphere to heat up. They say this is global warming: I say this
is poppycock."


* * *

http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/europe/06/18/russia.warni...

Russia warned U.S. about Saddam
Friday, June 18, 2004 Posted: 12:46 PM EDT (1646 GMT)

MOSCOW, Russia (CNN) -- Russian intelligence services warned
Washington several times that Saddam Hussein's regime planned
terrorist attacks against the United States, President Vladimir Putin
has said.

The warnings were provided after September 11, 2001 and before the
start of the Iraqi war, Putin said Friday.

The planned attacks were targeted both inside and outside the United
States, said Putin, who made the remarks during a visit to Kazakhstan.
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Hi 'U Are With Us Or Against Us'.




STILL a liEberal propaganda-spewing, biased, ANONYMOUS pussy, eh?
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