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April 24, 2005 8:18:38 PM

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I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e computer
from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the seller never
disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and had brand new
keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I surprised however
when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70 monitor. Apparently,
Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole for pin 9. My monitor
has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there such a thing as an adapter
that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect to this computer? Do I need to
get an ISA video card? Will that have the same problem? Would it work with
this computer? I HAVE been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this
monitor. Both computers are around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.

Mark
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 2:02:38 AM

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Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.

Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?

Tom
"Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e computer
>from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the seller never
>disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and had brand new
>keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I surprised however
>when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70 monitor. Apparently,
>Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole for pin 9. My monitor
>has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there such a thing as an adapter
>that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect to this computer? Do I need to
>get an ISA video card? Will that have the same problem? Would it work with
>this computer? I HAVE been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this
>monitor. Both computers are around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>
> Mark
>
April 25, 2005 2:02:39 AM

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I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and it
didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means that
the pin IS there.

Mark

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>
> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>
> Tom
> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e computer
>>from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the seller never
>>disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and had brand new
>>keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I surprised however
>>when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70 monitor. Apparently,
>>Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole for pin 9. My monitor
>>has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there such a thing as an adapter
>>that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect to this computer? Do I need
>>to get an ISA video card? Will that have the same problem? Would it work
>>with this computer? I HAVE been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286
>>to this monitor. Both computers are around the same vintage (~1990).
>>Thanks.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>
>
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Anonymous
April 25, 2005 5:18:03 AM

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Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing the
pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that the
'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed connector.
That pin isn't used.

Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If you're
adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though, as I don't
know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so, but.....

No warranties :) 

Tom
"Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and it
>didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means that
>the pin IS there.
>
> Mark
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>
>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>
>> Tom
>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e computer
>>>from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the seller never
>>>disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and had brand new
>>>keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I surprised however
>>>when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70 monitor. Apparently,
>>>Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole for pin 9. My monitor
>>>has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there such a thing as an adapter
>>>that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect to this computer? Do I need
>>>to get an ISA video card? Will that have the same problem? Would it work
>>>with this computer? I HAVE been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286
>>>to this monitor. Both computers are around the same vintage (~1990).
>>>Thanks.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
April 25, 2005 5:18:04 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.compaq (More info?)

Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the pin
isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.

Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So, unless
there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did have a
keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with the
new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector on
the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.

Mark

"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing the
> pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that the
> 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
> connector. That pin isn't used.
>
> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If you're
> adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though, as I don't
> know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so, but.....
>
> No warranties :) 
>
> Tom
> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and
>>it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means
>>that the pin IS there.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>
>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and
>>>>had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I
>>>>surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70
>>>>monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole
>>>>for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there
>>>>such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect
>>>>to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA video card? Will that have the
>>>>same problem? Would it work with this computer? I HAVE been able to hook
>>>>up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this monitor. Both computers are around
>>>>the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 7:19:38 AM

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.compaq (More info?)

Actually, in newer connectors (with blue overmold) the pin IS supposed to be
there,
carrying 5 VDC to power the DDC (Plug-n-Play comm. channel) even if the
monitor
is off. VESA adopted that in the mid-90's.

Since this is a '90 vintage machine, I expect you'll never want to run any
up to date OS
with P-n-P, so it's likely OK to just remove the pin (if you can without
munging anything
else). Or, if you *do* want to install win95/8, just be aware that you will
always need
to turn the monitor on before you boot they system.
HTH,
NGA

"Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bIYae.165$Hf6.14@fe11.lga...
> Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the pin
> isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.
>
> Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So,
> unless
> there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did have
> a
> keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with the
> new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector on
> the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.
>
> Mark
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing the
>> pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that the
>> 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
>> connector. That pin isn't used.
>>
>> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If
>> you're adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though, as
>> I don't know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so, but.....
>>
>> No warranties :) 
>>
>> Tom
>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and
>>>it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means
>>>that the pin IS there.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and
>>>>>had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I
>>>>>surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70
>>>>>monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole
>>>>>for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there
>>>>>such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect
>>>>>to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA video card? Will that have
>>>>>the same problem? Would it work with this computer? I HAVE been able to
>>>>>hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this monitor. Both computers are
>>>>>around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
Anonymous
April 25, 2005 2:47:26 PM

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Buy a cheap extension cable. Break off the pin on the extension cable, not
the monitor cable.

Problem solved!

Tom
"Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bIYae.165$Hf6.14@fe11.lga...
> Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the pin
> isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.
>
> Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So,
> unless
> there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did have
> a
> keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with the
> new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector on
> the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.
>
> Mark
>
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing the
>> pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that the
>> 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
>> connector. That pin isn't used.
>>
>> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If
>> you're adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though, as
>> I don't know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so, but.....
>>
>> No warranties :) 
>>
>> Tom
>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and
>>>it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means
>>>that the pin IS there.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>>
>>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton and
>>>>>had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was I
>>>>>surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70
>>>>>monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no hole
>>>>>for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is there
>>>>>such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to connect
>>>>>to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA video card? Will that have
>>>>>the same problem? Would it work with this computer? I HAVE been able to
>>>>>hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this monitor. Both computers are
>>>>>around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
April 25, 2005 2:47:27 PM

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Thanks everyone. I learned about this VGA connector in the process of this
problem. Yes, I'd like to buy the cheap cable, but when I find one it says
it will only work for smaller than 17" monitor...who knows why! I don't
want to remove the pin from the monitor because I use the same monitor for
my new computer. I might be able to use two gender changers back to back.
It does appear that often both the adapters and extention cables don't have
the keyed female but do have the missing pin 9. So, one way or another I'm
sure I'll work this out.

Thanks again.

Mark
"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:2V3be.22325$5f.16943@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Buy a cheap extension cable. Break off the pin on the extension cable,
> not the monitor cable.
>
> Problem solved!
>
> Tom
> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bIYae.165$Hf6.14@fe11.lga...
>> Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the pin
>> isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.
>>
>> Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So,
>> unless
>> there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did have
>> a
>> keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with the
>> new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector
>> on
>> the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing
>>> the pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that
>>> the 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
>>> connector. That pin isn't used.
>>>
>>> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If
>>> you're adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though,
>>> as I don't know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so, but.....
>>>
>>> No warranties :) 
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today and
>>>>it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it means
>>>>that the pin IS there.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton
>>>>>>and had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy was
>>>>>>I surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic E70
>>>>>>monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has no
>>>>>>hole for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas? Is
>>>>>>there such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15 pin VGA male to
>>>>>>connect to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA video card? Will
>>>>>>that have the same problem? Would it work with this computer? I HAVE
>>>>>>been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this monitor. Both
>>>>>>computers are around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
Anonymous
April 26, 2005 2:32:17 AM

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http://www.pacificcable.com/PCCables.htm

EX13-6ED. $8.50

No connection, other than I buy a lot of cables from them. They're 50 foot
extension cable is driving my video projector as my home theatre .

Tom

"Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:me5be.4151$RP1.3680@fe10.lga...
> Thanks everyone. I learned about this VGA connector in the process of this
> problem. Yes, I'd like to buy the cheap cable, but when I find one it says
> it will only work for smaller than 17" monitor...who knows why! I don't
> want to remove the pin from the monitor because I use the same monitor for
> my new computer. I might be able to use two gender changers back to back.
> It does appear that often both the adapters and extention cables don't
> have the keyed female but do have the missing pin 9. So, one way or
> another I'm sure I'll work this out.
>
> Thanks again.
>
> Mark
> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
> news:2V3be.22325$5f.16943@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>> Buy a cheap extension cable. Break off the pin on the extension cable,
>> not the monitor cable.
>>
>> Problem solved!
>>
>> Tom
>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:bIYae.165$Hf6.14@fe11.lga...
>>> Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the
>>> pin
>>> isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So,
>>> unless
>>> there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did
>>> have a
>>> keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with
>>> the
>>> new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector
>>> on
>>> the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>> news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing
>>>> the pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that
>>>> the 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
>>>> connector. That pin isn't used.
>>>>
>>>> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If
>>>> you're adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though,
>>>> as I don't know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so,
>>>> but.....
>>>>
>>>> No warranties :) 
>>>>
>>>> Tom
>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>>>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>>>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today
>>>>>and it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it
>>>>>means that the pin IS there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark
>>>>>
>>>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton
>>>>>>>and had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy
>>>>>>>was I surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new Viewsonic
>>>>>>>E70 monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector that has
>>>>>>>no hole for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have any ideas?
>>>>>>>Is there such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15 pin VGA male
>>>>>>>to connect to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA video card? Will
>>>>>>>that have the same problem? Would it work with this computer? I HAVE
>>>>>>>been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to this monitor. Both
>>>>>>>computers are around the same vintage (~1990). Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
April 26, 2005 11:36:03 AM

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Thanks Tom. From the picture, no cutting of pins will even be needed. :-)

Mark
"Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
news:Rdebe.31381$_t3.6180@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> http://www.pacificcable.com/PCCables.htm
>
> EX13-6ED. $8.50
>
> No connection, other than I buy a lot of cables from them. They're 50
> foot extension cable is driving my video projector as my home theatre .
>
> Tom
>
> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:me5be.4151$RP1.3680@fe10.lga...
>> Thanks everyone. I learned about this VGA connector in the process of
>> this problem. Yes, I'd like to buy the cheap cable, but when I find one
>> it says it will only work for smaller than 17" monitor...who knows why!
>> I don't want to remove the pin from the monitor because I use the same
>> monitor for my new computer. I might be able to use two gender changers
>> back to back. It does appear that often both the adapters and extention
>> cables don't have the keyed female but do have the missing pin 9. So,
>> one way or another I'm sure I'll work this out.
>>
>> Thanks again.
>>
>> Mark
>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>> news:2V3be.22325$5f.16943@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>> Buy a cheap extension cable. Break off the pin on the extension cable,
>>> not the monitor cable.
>>>
>>> Problem solved!
>>>
>>> Tom
>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:bIYae.165$Hf6.14@fe11.lga...
>>>> Yeah, I think you're right. I looked at the "standard" pinout and the
>>>> pin
>>>> isn't used. Must be as you say, they just stopped removing the pin.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I think my VGA cable is hardwired into my monitor. So,
>>>> unless
>>>> there was an extension cable that didn't have a keyed female but did
>>>> have a
>>>> keyed male, I'd be out of luck. And, I really don't want to mess with
>>>> the
>>>> new monitor. I wonder if I can poke a hole through the female connector
>>>> on
>>>> the computer. LOL Open to any ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Mark
>>>>
>>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:fzXae.10882$716.5106@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>> Oh, I believe the pin is there. Many monitor makers stopped removing
>>>>> the pin, as computer makers stop keying the plug. The problem is that
>>>>> the 'standard' such as it is at the time of that machine had a keyed
>>>>> connector. That pin isn't used.
>>>>>
>>>>> Worst case, you should be able to find a cable without the pin. If
>>>>> you're adventursome, break off the pin. Not recommending that though,
>>>>> as I don't know if the pin is really used now. Don't think so,
>>>>> but.....
>>>>>
>>>>> No warranties :) 
>>>>>
>>>>> Tom
>>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:o fWae.17097$ZQ1.7549@fe11.lga...
>>>>>>I might be going crazy, so I'll check again. But I'm pretty sure the
>>>>>>connector has the pin. I also looked at my girlfriends monitor today
>>>>>>and it didn't have any missing pins either. If I don't post again it
>>>>>>means that the pin IS there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Tom Scales" <tomtoo@softhome.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:2IUae.10810$716.6052@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
>>>>>>> Your monitor isnot supposed to have the pin.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are you sure the cable isn't installed backwards?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tom
>>>>>>> "Mark" <markm213@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:saTae.11455$V02.10392@fe08.lga...
>>>>>>>>I just got a very nice, maybe never used, Compaq Deskpro 386/20e
>>>>>>>>computer from Ebay. Except for the big scratch on the top that the
>>>>>>>>seller never disclosed it looks great. Even came in original carton
>>>>>>>>and had brand new keyboard and sealed software/documentation! Boy
>>>>>>>>was I surprised however when I went to hook it up to my new
>>>>>>>>Viewsonic E70 monitor. Apparently, Compaq used a keyed VGA connector
>>>>>>>>that has no hole for pin 9. My monitor has a pin 9. Anyone have
>>>>>>>>any ideas? Is there such a thing as an adapter that will allow a 15
>>>>>>>>pin VGA male to connect to this computer? Do I need to get an ISA
>>>>>>>>video card? Will that have the same problem? Would it work with this
>>>>>>>>computer? I HAVE been able to hook up my IBM PS/2 Model 30 286 to
>>>>>>>>this monitor. Both computers are around the same vintage (~1990).
>>>>>>>>Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mark
>>>>>>>>
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