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Spitfire_x86   06-08-2003 at 04:03:59 AM

Download JetAudio basic from <A HREF="http://www.jetaudio.com" target="_new">http://www.jetaudio.com</A>

It can play all major audio/video file formats, has good interface. Moreover it can play Real Media. Many people don't like real player, but need to play real media files. For these people, this player is a very good real player alternative.

The only difference beween basic and full version is MP3 and MP3 Pro encoding. The free version doesn'r support MP3/MP3 Pro encoding

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dhlucke   06-08-2003 at 04:11:53 AM
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I've used it when I couldn't get a movie to play right in WMP.

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alltaken   06-08-2003 at 09:26:04 AM
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my fav is called.

ZOOM PLAYER

its damn powerfull, has very very good full screen mode settings for videos.

i have not used WMP on ym new computer and uninstalled it instantly (well not that you can actually uninstall it, but its hidden)




Anyway its a good alternative too. (well great for vids at least)



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phial   06-08-2003 at 10:05:59 AM
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pron dh?

ahahhahahahahahah yeah

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jaythaman   06-08-2003 at 06:28:27 PM
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whats so funny about it. Porn is serious businees.








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svol   06-08-2003 at 08:10:33 PM
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Hmmm... I tried it but I don't really like it. I rather have Windows Media Player which has all screens build into one and are easier to control and the funny Foobar player with its easy lay-out.

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Spitfire_x86   06-09-2003 at 12:55:02 AM
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err.....wrong post!

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Spitfire_x86   06-09-2003 at 01:02:35 AM
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unfortunately, Foobar player doesn't look like a player. It looks more like a music database program which has playback support

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svol   06-09-2003 at 03:07:01 PM
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Well it runs my playlist just like Winamp but then ever better... that is all I need.

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Spitfire_x86   06-10-2003 at 01:23:07 AM
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okay, but have you tried these thingies <A HREF="http://forumz.tomshardware.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=faq¬found=1&code=1" target="_new"> Go to this thread</A>

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svol   06-10-2003 at 09:22:18 PM
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That audio player doesn't seem to support 64 bit floating point decoding... or am I missing something?

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Grub   06-10-2003 at 09:26:27 PM
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Just wondering...what is wrong with WMP? What are your guys major complaints?

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Auburn9698   06-10-2003 at 10:10:02 PM
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Wondering that, too. I use WMP for movie files, and musicmatch for mp3s.

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jihiggs   06-10-2003 at 10:35:01 PM
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thank you for that link to jet audio!!!! i have been looking for a player like that. its fast, plays real audio and quick time files, i just wish it supported browser integration

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jihiggs   06-10-2003 at 11:12:30 PM
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damn, it doesnt play the files unless you have quicktime and real installed, it uses the same engine just doesnt open the program. i was hoping it would play them standalone. for 17 megs its not that impressive after all.

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Spitfire_x86   06-11-2003 at 01:48:28 AM
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JetAudio has 64 bit FP decoding engine, not sure about CoolPlayer.

Why you will need 64 bit FP decoding engine, since it sounds good?

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Spitfire_x86   06-11-2003 at 02:00:32 AM
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JetAudio real audio files WITHOUT real player installed. I can play real audio clips in JetAudio though I don't have real player installed. It has integrated real engine

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Spitfire_x86   06-11-2003 at 02:03:46 AM
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Quote :

Just wondering...what is wrong with WMP? What are your guys major complaints?


It's from Microsoft, and it's a weapon for establishing Windows Media (WMA, WMV) only world

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Grub   06-11-2003 at 04:55:22 AM
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Ahhh...I get it now...*creeps off quietly before lecture begins on Linux, Amiga, and open source warez*

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alltaken   06-11-2003 at 11:27:38 AM
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ok i have some reasons not to use it!!!!

list starts now

it uses a rather large amount of CPU resources.

the video media playing mode is not very good when using it on a tv screen(in fullscreen) while trying to surf the web on the computer screen.

the graphics are a bit much for my personal tastes.




personally i don't mind Mplayer (the old version of media player,its still included and has an icon of a small clapper board)

but i use my media players in Fullscreen mode, and Microsoft doesn't achive this well when the desktop is spaned over two monitors.


also it is near impossible to un-install once you have installed the task bar player, and other things.



ok hope that helps. if you like it thats fine!!!
but some people prefer other players (i hate people who don't give reasons for NOT using somthing, however hating microsoft is a fair reason not to use a product, its called passive resistance, and boycotting)



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Grub   06-11-2003 at 03:28:42 PM
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Thanks....

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Pettytheft   06-11-2003 at 06:24:42 PM
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It uses a larger amount of memory but I haven't noticed using up a large amount of CPU resources. Maybe with the visuals on but I dont care about that stuff anyway.

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alltaken   06-11-2003 at 06:35:41 PM
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oh yeah whoops the full screen problem i'll explain it better so you know what i'm talking about.

i always wanted to watch a video in fullscreen on my tv, while surfing the web.

well i could put Mplayer (the secondary microsoft player) on the tv and maximise it. yep that worked fine. well untill i clicked on another program like mozila or IE then it would return to normal size.

BUGGER thats why i stopped using Mplayer

now as for WMP the full new one (well 8 at least)

it would never maximize on the tv screen without blacking out the main monitor or somthing strange like that.

so basicly those are the only reasons.


but prior ot that then i used WMP

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svol   06-15-2003 at 08:59:28 PM
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Not much but it sucks for audio and can be a pain in the ass sometimes. I use it for videos.

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svol   06-15-2003 at 09:00:31 PM
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Yes... it really improved music quality for me. And I want a player that support 24 bit output when I buy a new soundcard.

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Spitfire_x86   06-16-2003 at 01:46:32 AM
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I really don't understand how can 24 bit can improve quality over 16 bit. There's hardly any practical quality difference beween 4 bit ADPCM and 16 bit RAW PCM.

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svol   06-16-2003 at 08:10:03 PM
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Then you don't have my ears... and I know I guy who can even hear the difference between MP3 and original CD at high MP3 quality (atleast that is what he says :smile: ).

16 bit integer is much to little nowadays for music... why do you think a Super Audio CD (SACD) uses 24 bit and 96KHz music?

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Spitfire_x86   06-17-2003 at 02:45:42 AM
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I was talking about most cases, there's no audible difference between 16 bit PCM and 4 bit ADPCM.

Your guy must be a liar, 320kbps is sure theoritically lossy, but not audible when you encode it with LAME MP3 (q=5 to q=0) or Fraunhofer IIS encoder. Only using Xing, GoGo or LAME MP3 (q=7 to q=10) can make audible difference between 320kbps and original CD. IMO, there's no audible difference @ from 192k and over. You really never need more than 256k.

I think your guy will find difference between Monkey's Audio (a lossless codec) and original CD, unless you let him know about the format.

Oh, and SACD! It's a technical crap. It's always possible to make a standard higher than current audio CD specs, but these guys forget this fact that our ear is not upgradeable. We have same 2 ears like we hear Audio CD and when we hear SACD. If they can make some thehnology, that will make our ear 5 from 2, then I may consider SACD some kind of real technology. IMO, simulating 5 channels in 2 channel is a better idea. It will sound like real 5:1 when you will use headphones.

About 24bit and 96k Hz- they will make no difference in most of the cases. In most cases, current audio CDs' sound like hearing directly from the artist. I don't think SACD can make the audio better than original show.

You can always buy a server class mobo, Ultra 160 SCSI controller (64bt PCI), 2 x 15k rpm U160 SCSI HDD in RAID-0. But do you think that it's really needed for general PC usuage? SACD vs. Audio CD is the same thing.

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svol   06-17-2003 at 03:12:51 PM
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Well you seem to forget that the ear can hear way more then 16 bit integer can put out... really I too can hear the difference between 16 and 24 bit.

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Spitfire_x86   06-17-2003 at 04:31:05 PM
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Can you please explain how 24 bit can improve quality over 16 bit?

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svol   06-17-2003 at 07:59:12 PM
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Ofcourse. As you might know a sound signal is originally analoge but converted towards a digital signal with 16 or 24 bit decoding. A 16 bit signal has only 16 bits to describe the sound channel while a 24 bit has 24 bits. Therefore a 24 bits sound channel will be more presize then a 16 bit channel.

Same goes for 16 bit integer or 64 bit floating point decoding of MP3.

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Spitfire_x86   06-19-2003 at 02:53:16 AM
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But there's always question, how much is enough?

If the difference is like 16 bit color vs. 24 bit color, then we should probably stick to 16 bit audio.

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svol   06-19-2003 at 07:49:47 PM
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You can't see the difference between 16 and 24 bit colour?!? :eek:

Hey BTW, do you know some good places to download rare codecs?

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Spitfire_x86   06-20-2003 at 02:54:06 AM
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In 90% cases, there's no practical difference between 16bit and 24 bit. In audio, this will be 95% to 98%. Our ear is not as good as our eyes for catching difference bewtween 16 and 24 bit.

Which codecs you want to download?



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svol   06-21-2003 at 04:36:25 PM
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Uhm... the FFmpeg I263 codec. :redface:


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jaythaman   06-21-2003 at 08:30:48 PM
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Spitfire_x86   06-22-2003 at 01:46:55 AM
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Quote :

Uhm... the FFmpeg I263 codec.


Is it "Fraunhofer IIS MP3 Codec Professional"? (v 1.263? )

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svol   06-22-2003 at 12:21:55 PM
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No the codec is mostly used for pr0n movies. :smile:

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svol   06-22-2003 at 12:22:28 PM
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No it seems to be a movie codec, I've found a decoder for Linux but none for Windows.

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jaythaman   06-22-2003 at 08:22:16 PM
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Spitfire_x86   06-23-2003 at 02:33:41 AM
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I have no idea, where to find it

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dhlucke   06-23-2003 at 05:06:47 AM
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What is this pron that everyone is talking about?

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svol   06-23-2003 at 08:11:30 PM
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Uhm... you know pr0n, an acronym for porn.

Tisk tisk DH, what a dissapointment.

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