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October 28, 2010 7:29:05 PM

Personally I have set my browsers to block third party cookies at all times for years now. Anyone have any thoughts on the potential uses of InPrivate browsing? Anyone use InPrivate browsing specifically for any particular browsing need? I noticed Chrome has no such feature. I see some uses for INPrivate browsing that work for me. Like discarding unwanted cookies before they install during an extended web search for example. Any thoughts or other uses to share?

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While you are surfing using InPrivate Browsing, Internet Explorer stores some information—such as cookies and temporary Internet files—so that the webpages you visit will work correctly. However, at the end of your InPrivate Browsing session, this information is discarded.

What is InPrivate Browsing?


a b $ Windows 7
October 28, 2010 7:51:20 PM

So basically this is just a copy of Firefox's Porn Mode (aka Private Browsing) :p 

Also, Chrome/Chromium has this too. It's called "Incognito" (Ctrl + Shift + N).
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October 28, 2010 7:55:39 PM

Hello badge.
Chrome's version of InPrivate browsing is called Incognito. Firefox calls theirs Private Browsing.
They do a decent job of hiding the details of a web browsing session from other users on a shared computer.

If anyone has expectations that private browsing sessions are actually private in ALL circumstances (like doing personal activities on a work computer) they need to know it doesn't exactly do that.

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October 28, 2010 8:16:45 PM

I see shadow has contributed to wiki on the subject. I thought you just covered your eyes.

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Internet Explorer 8 in InPrivate modeA new security mode called InPrivate debuted with IE8, and consists of two main features: InPrivate Browsing and InPrivate Filtering.[17] InPrivate Browsing has been described as a "porn mode" in various news outlets.[34][35][36][37][38][39][40][41] A similar feature was later implemented in Safari, Firefox 3.5, and Google Chrome. InformationWeek mentioned it as a "'Stealth' Privacy Mode".[42]

InPrivate Browsing in Internet Explorer 8 helps prevent one's browsing history, temporary Internet files, form data, cookies, and usernames and passwords from being retained by the browser, leaving no easily accessible evidence of browsing or search history.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Explorer_8#InPriv...
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October 28, 2010 8:25:52 PM

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If anyone has expectations that private browsing sessions are actually private in ALL circumstances (like doing personal activities on a work computer) they need to know it doesn't exactly do that.


I'm thinking when used, ALL cookies are blocked from installing on the browser. That's can be useful to not have unwanted cookies install in the first place. Wiping the cookies is no problem, but picking and choosing which ones to discard can be a waste of time. I have noticed some AV programs (MS SE) wipe certain cookies, passwords, when a browser is closed or the machine is shut down and the program restarted, a bit of both.
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October 28, 2010 9:35:10 PM

To be honest its all pointless, at the end of the day, no matter where you go on the net you leave your IP address and that is all anybody needs to locate you and find out who you are.

As far as cookies, all they do is show your browser, language and such, your IP address is much more important and gives much more important data, however, my cookies are set to accept but I have my browser set to delete all cookies when browser is closed, there is no cookie you want to save.
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October 28, 2010 10:15:16 PM

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To be honest its all pointless, at the end of the day, no matter where you go on the net you leave your IP address


We, not always in my case.

http://ipsharkk.com/free-version/
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October 28, 2010 10:29:45 PM

Well if anybody wants to find you, its easy to trace you from that IP. So unless you are like behind 40 proxies, then I can see/find you, a simple traceroute, will show you right up.

On top of that, that company now has a record of everything you did on the net. And worst if you use their proxies while signing in to secure sites with password and codes, then now they have all that info also.

Never use proxies for secure communication and if you want to be at least a little difficult to find, scan for chines proxies yourself and then test the anonymity and if its a good one use that. Charon is a great proxy finder and tester and is a freeware,but keep in mind, hiding behind one or two proxies will not really hid you from anybody that want to get your info.

but if you are just looking to hide your regular surfing then that shark program is ok, just keep in mind any information you use while using their proxy, that information is left on their server and they have a copy of it, for this kind of things you don't even need to use programs like shark, many site allow you to surf from their site, like hide my ass, you just put the url of the site you wan to go into the url window they provide then you hit go and now you are browsing thru their server/ip.

Just some info, I hope readers will find useful, remember never use these sites or apps for signing into your bank or credit card companies and such places.
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October 28, 2010 11:43:27 PM

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Well if anybody wants to find you, its easy to trace you from that IP.


No one is going to trace me to my IP using IP shark without a court order or at least more than a 'who was that using your software on my site inquiry?"

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On top of that, that company now has a record of everything you did on the net.


Everything I did on the net? LOL. My IP is not available. It was not used to log on using IP Shark. They may have software to detect I am using a 'mask' and not allow me on, but they are not privy to my IP using IP Shark and have no access to no more passwords, etc. than I give them and those wouldn't have any meaning to the masked IP they have I logged on with. You insinuate every site you log on to has access to evrything you have done on the interent since 1947. I agree, it's better to be safe, but the idea my personal life history is available to any site is not true. Even Visa and MasterCard have required our companys to purchase new equiptment in the past two months that makes it impossible for our employees to have access to our cutomer's card numbers, exp/ date etc. Security has come a long way since 1947 :sol: 


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but if you are just looking to hide your regular surfing then that shark program is ok, just keep in mind any information you use while using their proxy, that information is left on their server and they have a copy of it,


They do not have my IP is my point.

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Just some info, I hope readers will find useful, remember never use these sites or apps for signing into your bank or credit card companies and such places.


I don't bank or pay credit cards online.


The feature inPrivate browsing offers that appeals to me is the idea of "personal exchange information" or their cookies are stored in my memory not allowing their tracking ability to 'install' on my browser. If I want to hide my IP and log on to a site and the site allows me to using IP shark, my IP address is not immediately available to them is my point. Masking an IP address is old technology and has been around for more than a decade I have been using it. Ghostsurf is one software that does just that and I purchased Ghostsurf like 1998. Same thing as IP Shark. I got my money's worth out of Ghostsurf for many years. As far as masking my IP address, the software did just that. :) 
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October 29, 2010 1:34:36 AM

Ahh.... IP shark. I go through Tor and a private proxy for certain things. :ange: 

The point is, very few people are going to bother tracing you down. For most people it's not worth it. This is true unless you are in the NSA/CIAs hit list...

As for credit cards, most banks will let you create a Temporary Credit Card Number that is usually valid from 30-90+ days. You can limit the number of times, who can be payed,etc with these temp numbers.
I have BoA: http://www.bankofamerica.com/privacy/index.cfm?template...

IIRC, AmEx, PayPal and quite a few other banks offer this kind of things free or for a small fee.

Obviously, the best way to protect yourself from CC fraud,etc is to monitor your card, don't shop at questionable sites, have anti virus,etc. And most of all HAVE COMMON SENSE!
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October 29, 2010 5:20:51 AM

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No one is going to trace me to my IP using IP shark without a court order or at least more than a 'who was that using your software on my site inquiry?"


boss I don't know where you are getting that idea from but anybody can trace route from their location to yours, right now the admins of tom's forum can easily trace route to you if they wanted to.

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Everything I did on the net? LOL. My IP is not available. It was not used to log on using IP Shark. They may have software to detect I am using a 'mask' and not allow me on, but they are not privy to my IP using IP Shark and have no access to no more passwords, etc. than I give them and those wouldn't have any meaning to the masked IP they have I logged on with. You insinuate every site you log on to has access to evrything you have done on the interent since 1947. I agree, it's better to be safe, but the idea my personal life history is available to any site is not true. Even Visa and MasterCard have required our companys to purchase new equiptment in the past two months that makes it impossible for our employees to have access to our cutomer's card numbers, exp/ date etc. Security has come a long way since 1947 :sol: 


I'm not sure you understand how the software you are using and how ip masking works, let me explain:

most apps get a ip address from home (a server company uses), and then put that ip address in option of your browser so when your browser goes on the net, its directed to that ip address, and then from that ip address you go and surf and everybody gets that ip address...


What I find disturbing about IPShark is the fact that , not only are not hiding your ip, but you are letting somebody else use it, that is worst IMO, its like letting somebody you don't know barrow your car's tags, with IPShark you are using somebody else's ip on the network and somebody else is using your ip. But the problem is that your ip is still your ip, for example lets say your ip is 216.22.235.12, that is he ip address your isp assigned to you, if we look at that ip address we can find where you are and who you are, now with ipshark you are not using that ip address but somebody else is, problem is that whatever they do now, looks like you did it, and if they do something bad, it can cause you some grief.

you also misunderstood what I said when I said when you go to a website they have record of everything you did, what that means is that everything you did on that website, so in short when you go to a website and login with a pass and code, a copy of that is on the server that the website is on.

no matter whos ip you have, a copy what you that particular surfing session is on the server you connected to and the cp/server of the person who's ip you were using.

you have to understand how it works, internet connection from the time you go to the net to the time you are on a website hidding behind an ip goes like this:( in a very general manor of speaking)

you ->ip you are hidding behind (in otherwords another pc or server) - > the internet and some website.

so as you see at all times somebody does have your ip, I can prove this to you if you like.

btw in your browser, do you have java and java script enabled?


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They do not have my IP is my point.


as I explained above they do have your ip and I can prove it to you, you are using somebody eles's ip yes but your ip is right behind theirs, as I said I can prove it to you.

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I don't bank or pay credit cards online.


The feature inPrivate browsing offers that appeals to me is the idea of "personal exchange information" or their cookies are stored in my memory not allowing their tracking ability to 'install' on my browser. If I want to hide my IP and log on to a site and the site allows me to using IP shark, my IP address is not immediately available to them is my point. Masking an IP address is old technology and has been around for more than a decade I have been using it. Ghostsurf is one software that does just that and I purchased Ghostsurf like 1998. Same thing as IP Shark. I got my money's worth out of Ghostsurf for many years. As far as masking my IP address, the software did just that. :) 



I never said you do use banks or etc, I was letting all the people that read this thread know to not ever do those kind of things while hiding behind an ip or proxy.

I used to use ghostsurf but if anybody or the govt wanted to checkup on you they could because all of these companies offer usa ip address which belong to servers/pcs in usa, which fall under usa jurisdiction and govt can do whatever it wants, again this is not point at you, this is for the readers to understand. For example for file sharing ipshark, ghostsurf or anything like that is horrible idea and easily traceable.
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October 29, 2010 5:37:32 AM

are you saying yes your java and java scripts are enabled? or is teh "yeah" to something else?
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October 29, 2010 7:36:52 AM

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Is that like when you are driving in your car and you see people digging in their nose like nobody is looking?


Yes, that is what this discussion is about and you are obviously an expert on the subject. :o  But that does not explain how IP maskng does not hide your IP addrerss. Here is that explaination in a nutsack.

In a nutsack, the distrubing facts you don't know about how your IP address works.



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October 29, 2010 7:50:52 AM

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IP shark. I go through Tor and a private proxy for certain things.


I'll give Tor a try for sure. I use IP shark on one machine to keep bothering a MOD on one of the radio stations who abolished me years ago. IP Shark gets me past my IP ban everytime I feel compelled to go online there. I think the guy still pees in the shower regularily. He did last time I asked him.

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The point is, very few people are going to bother tracing you down
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Exactly.


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For most people it's not worth it. This is true unless you are in the NSA/CIAs hit list...



Really. Can you get on that hitlist for asking a guy to stop asking to lick you for wearing a penis scented suit and having money?


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As for credit cards, most banks will let you create a Temporary Credit Card Number that is usually valid from 30-90+ days. You can limit the number of times, who can be payed,etc with these temp numbers.


Right. Or call the 800 number and make a payment arrangement. We don't even give out our fax number to most of the cannibals asking that information. The derned cartridge to the multifunctional printer hooked to the fax is like $120. :lol:  Screw their unwanted fax solitication taking up my precious ink supply. :lol: 

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I have BoA: http://www.bankofamerica.com/privacy/index.cfm?template...

IIRC, AmEx, PayPal and quite a few other banks offer this kind of things free or for a small fee.

Obviously, the best way to protect yourself from CC fraud,etc is to monitor your card, don't shop at questionable sites, have anti virus,etc. And most of all HAVE COMMON SENSE!
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Attention Ladies. Shadow is single. :love: 
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October 29, 2010 3:19:29 PM

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Is that like when you are driving in your car and you see people digging in their nose like nobody is looking?


Yes, that is what this discussion is about and you are obviously an expert on the subject. :o  But that does not explain how IP maskng does not hide your IP addrerss. Here is that explaination in a nutsack.

In a nutsack, the distrubing facts you don't know about how your IP address works.



Exactly, InPrivate Browsing is as private as driving around in your car picking your nose, OK as private as it is when I pick my nose whild driving and give'r a good flick at the guy tailgating.
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October 30, 2010 11:35:39 PM

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a b $ Windows 7
October 30, 2010 11:49:50 PM

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Attention Ladies. Shadow is single.

I see what you did there. :lol: 
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a b $ Windows 7
October 30, 2010 11:54:00 PM

Well your advice is rock solid. Especially in light of the idea I have been surfing with my mask being penetrated the entire time. :sarcastic: 
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October 31, 2010 1:44:40 AM

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October 31, 2010 3:29:24 AM

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October 31, 2010 5:07:42 AM

And dont let it hit you on the way out! LOL
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