cooling

[RolandC]

Hey all!
I'm sort of on a tight budget and I'm looking for a decent Pentium 4 fan that can handle overclocks for under AU$100- roughly US$60. I was wondering if you could offer me advice on which fan to get. (if you can offer me a water cooling kit for under US$60 THEN FEEL FREE )
I have a P4 2.66 I'm also wondering what are your experiences with the overclocking of this processor- what setting do you set it on to get what results (voltages, FSB, finishing speed, cooling system used, etc.) My friend told me that the P4 bundled fan was the Best fan for P4 but I doubt that is true (otherwise 3rd party fan makers would have been out of business a long time ago).
If there has already been another post somewhere with a simalar question and has been answered, feel free to direct me to it.
Thanks to all who give me anwsers!

The Cheapo cooling solution- open one side of your case with a fan blowing into it. Hey don't laugh man! I shaved 7C off that way!

 

[error_911]

definitely look into Swiftech's MCX462 with a Thermaltake SmartFan 2, prices are dropping on those parts...i think its the best bang for your buck

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[RolandC]

Just wondering though, does it come with a fan? (i don't think it does). if not what fan should i put on it? should i use my intel fan? is it possible to rip that one off or should i get a whole new fan altogether?

The Cheapo cooling solution- open one side of your case with a fan blowing into it. Hey don't laugh man! I shaved 7C off that way!

 

[LtBlue14]

you mean does the SLK-800 or MCX-462+ come with a fan? no they generally don't (it depends on what store you order from), and i don't think the intel stock fan will work because it has a really strange design. he suggested that you get a thermaltake smart fan 2. i like that choice because of the variable speed controller, and great CFM (cubic feet per minute)/noise ratio. 75CFM/48 dBA. ok, so you won't want it at 48dBA, unless you really don't mind noise, but the ratio is not bad anyway

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[error_911]

well it doesn't come with a fan (some places do package it with one though, so it depends on where you buy it, but anywhere that packages it with a fan will allow you to buy it without it)... I suggest a ThermalTake "SmartFan2" for it - its nice and quiet, thermally controlled and can provide substantial cooling benefits because of its high cfm (cubic feet per minute of airflow) rating - its worth it. You can pull the fan off of your Intel heatsink, definitely, but you might require better cooling (just watch your cpu temperatures, as long as the temps aren't too high you're fine)... hope this helps...hehehe, and the cheapo solution is waaayyy too loud for me, heh, but i know, if you're kinda lacking fans (which I have a feeling you are - how many case fans do you have?) it helps much.

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[RolandC]

Thx very much for your advice. I'll probably sit on my cash for a little while longer while i gather some more info off the 'net. as for the Cheapo solution.. that my sig ! but yes i did test it and yes the results are true. oh, and one last thing. How much do system fans help?
I only have one and i've always been under the impression that thier are not of too much use! (my case supports a max. of 6)

The Cheapo cooling solution- open one side of your case with a fan blowing into it. Hey don't laugh man! I shaved 7C off that way!

 

[RolandC]

Hey folks,
it's me again. I was just wondering about the Swiftech cooler but recently I saw a MCX4000 for P4 and I was wondering if any of you guys know the difference between that and the MCX462/+. also I am planing to go with the Vantec Tornado 80mm fan. I know it's loud but noise is not my primary concern, Any advice (and yes, I am going to go a bit over budget :frown: , I'll handle it )

The Cheapo cooling solution- open one side of your case with a fan blowing into it. Hey don't laugh man! I shaved 7C off that way!

 

[svol]

The MX4000 is bigger then the MCX462+ and it has more fins... so in theory it should deliver better cooling ability.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on

 

[error_911]

well, cooling of quite important with today's computers - they get bloody hot ! having a minimum of two fans (one intake one exhaust) is the least requirement in my opinion, and the MCX4000 is the P4 variant of the MCX462 to my knowledge - mind-you, coupled with a Tornado any heatsink is good enough, heh. I do warn you - I thought I didn't care about noise till I picked-up two Tornados - then I realised how much they annoyed me, so make your choices wisely - having a fan like Thermaltake's SmartFan is usefull in such situations (its quiet when the system is cool, and not as loud - though as powerfull - as the Tornado when need-be)..

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[RolandC]

Alright guys, untill recently, to your advice, I've been leaning towards the MXC4000 with the 80mm tornado attached. However following my research I have found a few other products that I would like your thoughts on- Thermalright SLK900 for preformance
Zalman 7000Cu, I'm not too sure about it's cooling ability but I've heard that it's the quietest a P4 HSF gets.

Edited- i dunno where i got my prices from but they are definetly unrealistic

The Cheapo cooling solution- open one side of your case with a fan blowing into it. Hey don't laugh man! I shaved 7C off that way! <P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by RolandC on 05/01/03 09:57 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[error_911]

well the thermalright slk900 is also an excellent choice, but i would stay as far away as possible from the zalman - yes it quiet, but I'd be damned to say its a performant heatsink... if you're looking for something to keep it cool and quiet - an SLK 900, or the swiftech, with a panaflo fan and you're set

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[svol]

And in theory the Swiftech should work best with low speed fans because it has aluminium instead of copper fins which emmits heat better to air.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on

 

[CarlosTheJackal]

May be a bit over budget but I recommend the Thermalright AX-478 coupled with an 80mm delta fan. This baby is so good I only have to run the delta at 7v to get my 2.4ghz P4 up to 3.3ghz which means I can hear myself think :/

 

[LtBlue14]

the zalman is awesome, if you can afford it, go for it

and aluminum doesn't radiate heat better than copper

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[svol]

We're not talking about radiation here... copper likes to hold its heat more then aluminium, ie alumium would give its heat easier to air then copper when you move air over it.

For the best radiation you would need a black (painted) metal.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on

 

[LtBlue14]

you're right i misspoke, what i MEANT to say is aluminum is not better at convection (nor conduction or radiation, for that matter), in convection they are equal (as is anything with the same surface area, temperature, flow pressure etc), and copper conducts and radiates better (though radiation, as you said, accounts for basically none of the heatloss)
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<A HREF="http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=105&PageID=4" target="_new">http://www.amdmb.com/article-display.php?ArticleID=105&PageID=4</A>
read those

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[svol]

Interesting reads... so full copper is the best, but if you want a lighter HSF then copper base and alumium fins are the next best solution.

My dual-PSU PC is so powerfull that the neighbourhood dims when I turn it on