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November 29, 2012 11:39:46 AM

I'm new with PC gaming, so please forgive my ignorance.

My graphics in the two games I have (Dead Island GOTY and Fallout 3 GOTY) look beautiful, but I'm not sure if my framerate is high enough.

When I move forward and back, it looks silky smooth, but when I turn left and right, things look a bit gittery. Could I have the resolution too high for my build? Could it be the monitor's refresh rate? Right now I have the resolution maxed, and both games suggest pretty high settings for my build.

Here's the relelvent specs:

ASRock Z75 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z75 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

EVGA SuperClocked 01G-P3-1463-KR GeForce GTX 560 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video ...

Intel Pentium G860 Sandy Bridge 3.0GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics BX80623G860

G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-10600CL9D-4GBPK

ASUS VS Series VS238H-P Black 23" 2ms HDMI LED Backlight Widescreen LCD Monitor

All of my gear has the latest drivers.

Thanks for any feedback!
November 29, 2012 11:59:56 AM

Your CPU is very underpowered for both of those games to be honest and you GPU is low-midrange as well. I wouldn't put your graphics up too high to be honest.

What frame rates are you actually getting? Use fraps to see this.
November 29, 2012 1:11:59 PM

darth pravus said:
Your CPU is very underpowered for both of those games to be honest and you GPU is low-midrange as well. I wouldn't put your graphics up too high to be honest.

What frame rates are you actually getting? Use fraps to see this.


Hmmm... What throws me off is I pretty much copied the Tom's Hardware build in the following link:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-overclock...

Shouldn't I get similar results?
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November 29, 2012 1:30:15 PM

Possibly. Which hard drive are you using? That can cause stuttering occasionally.
November 29, 2012 1:39:02 PM

darth pravus said:
Possibly. Which hard drive are you using? That can cause stuttering occasionally.


It's running off a 128GB SSD, SATA3.
November 29, 2012 1:48:35 PM

Well that rules that out :D 

Maybe high ram usage?

Try fraps Frame monitoring and see what you get.
November 29, 2012 3:05:04 PM

darth pravus said:
Well that rules that out :D 

Maybe high ram usage?

Try fraps Frame monitoring and see what you get.


I'll try that tonight, and update.

Thanks very much!!
November 29, 2012 3:35:43 PM

trustymutsi said:
Hmmm... What throws me off is I pretty much copied the Tom's Hardware build in the following link:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-pc-overclock...

Shouldn't I get similar results?


First off, are you using the same settings? They are using medium settings with AA off.

2) They also tested the game in single player. In Multiplayer, the game is far more demanding.
November 29, 2012 3:50:56 PM

bystander said:
First off, are you using the same settings? They are using medium settings with AA off.

2) They also tested the game in single player. In Multiplayer, the game is far more demanding.


If I'm not mistaken, a little farther down is a graph showing the ultra quality presets, which hit 30 FPS. Maybe what I'm experiencing is 30 FPS.
November 29, 2012 5:00:28 PM

trustymutsi said:
If I'm not mistaken, a little farther down is a graph showing the ultra quality presets, which hit 30 FPS. Maybe what I'm experiencing is 30 FPS.


30 FPS with a mouse is pretty awful when turning, so that may be what you are experiencing. The mouse makes your view feel more like an extension of yourself, and you are more sensitive to latency than when using a controller. I find 30 FPS will induce nausea to myself within a couple minutes.
November 29, 2012 9:13:08 PM

Okay, fraps is telling me I'm getting 110 fps at the LEAST. So I'm not sure what's weirding me out when I turn around usnig the mouse :( 
November 29, 2012 9:51:54 PM

See if v-sync would help you. Without v-sync, you will notice a lot of tearing when turning.
November 30, 2012 1:49:32 AM

I think it's my mouse. I tried a controller, and it seemed MUCH smoother.
November 30, 2012 2:26:34 AM

trustymutsi said:
I think it's my mouse. I tried a controller, and it seemed MUCH smoother.


What mouse do you have?
November 30, 2012 6:06:37 AM

Vsync is a good call as it might be screen tearing. You aren't on a multi GPU setup are you? Can you not raise your settings any higher?
November 30, 2012 10:35:10 AM

Make sure your mouse isn't on a USB 3.0 port.
November 30, 2012 11:14:34 PM

I tried two mice. They were connected to the 2.0 port.

They are both wireless.

I tried a:

Logitech M305
Microsoft Mobile Mouse 3000

Hope this helps.

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November 30, 2012 11:15:31 PM
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Those aren't great mice, and they are wireless. Wireless mice already degrade the quality, mix that with a low end mouse and it could be your issue.
December 1, 2012 2:13:29 AM

bystander said:
Those aren't great mice, and they are wireless. Wireless mice already degrade the quality, mix that with a low end mouse and it could be your issue.



I bet you're right, because when I use the controller, it seems MUCH smoother.

Which kind of mouse would you recommend? Anything wired?

Thanks for all the feedback so far guys!
December 1, 2012 3:00:15 AM

If you are looking for just meat and potatoes, the G400 is good. However, due to getting to like tilting middle mouse buttons, I would go with the G500. However, I use the G700, which is wireless. It gives me a couple additional thumb buttons and is wireless. I would prefer a wired one, but for a wireless mouse, it extremely accurate, even though the charging system is iffy, and the battery life sucks. At least it is very usable while charging.
December 1, 2012 4:06:01 AM

Best answer selected by trustymutsi.
December 1, 2012 4:06:29 AM

bystander said:
If you are looking for just meat and potatoes, the G400 is good. However, due to getting to like tilting middle mouse buttons, I would go with the G500. However, I use the G700, which is wireless. It gives me a couple additional thumb buttons and is wireless. I would prefer a wired one, but for a wireless mouse, it extremely accurate, even though the charging system is iffy, and the battery life sucks. At least it is very usable while charging.


Awesome, thanks!
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