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December 18, 2012 9:08:53 AM

HI guys , I suffer form a real f* frame drop when I play FC3 {27fps} .I use ultra settings ,HDAO ,off AA ,1080P. My pc is msi H55M ,I3 550 ,1333 2*2G ram, and ,Galaxy 560 ti 1G . note that when I turn HDOA to SSAO the frame rate increases to 44 fps , and when I use high settings at the same resolution 1080P I only have the fps 29~31 . SO how can i fix this . Also the use of GPU is 99% while the stupid CPU use is 39% why the stupid thing not work at full capacity :fou:  .
yours mm

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December 18, 2012 11:45:10 AM

your running the game beyond the settings the card can handle... go to the options and set them to high settings. play the game and you should be in the mid 40s you can the tweak your settings so you get a little more fidelity till you drop to 30 minimum. then stop. thats as good as it gets...
use hbao lighting only. if you use msaa x4 then you will have to reduce quality settings for water and shadows. also use standard alpha. enhanced is only for cards that are very high end...

the 560ti is a mid range card. so will give good mid range performance on the newest games. its actually over 2 years old so its hardly supriseing that the card wont do top draw any more... but hey think yourself lucky its only a 150 $/£ card
i payed 300 for mine and it gives the same performance as yours. just i got mine 3 years ago.
(lol i just looked and its exactly 3 years ago today)...
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December 18, 2012 12:45:26 PM

Make sure you've installed the latest patch (which significantly improves performance). Disregard this comment if you're using STEAM and auto-update. Make sure you have the latest FC3 Beta drivers for you card (makes a pretty big difference). Here's the link: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/Find.aspx?lang=en-us

If all else fails and you "must" play this game at full, then may I suggest making a SLI configuration of that card. I have the Zotac 560 Ti in SLI setup and it runs FC3 beautifully at very high settings (with a few tweaks on AA and so on).

If you don't have the Rig to accomodate SLI, then you may find wisdom in tweak guides online. With a little patience, you'll be able to crank up you visuals without taking too much of a hit.

www.tweakguides.com

Hope this helps.

Alex
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December 18, 2012 12:59:56 PM

As HEXiT says, a 560ti can handle no where near ultra.

My GTX 670 (Twice the GPU horsepower) gets 60fps at ultra. You need more ram, a better processor, and more GPU muscle.

HDAO is the most intensive form of ambient occulusion. SSAO is much easier.
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December 18, 2012 8:17:59 PM

Alex The PC Gamer said:
Make sure you've installed the latest patch (which significantly improves performance).


I saw benchmarks of the game just after it was first released and it seemed really demanding.. do you know of any up-to-date benchmarks with this patch?
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December 19, 2012 5:10:54 AM

ok ,thanks everyone 4 the advices .I already installed the new GeForce driver 310.70 - WHQL but it only gives me 2~3 frames . while a friend of mine who has the same system I have ,except his CPU is I3 2120 with ASUS H65 ,and he gets [50fps at veryhigh] settings and [45fps at ultra] with resolution 1650* .So I try to decrease my resolution 1080P to his 1650* and with no use I still have the same low-frame .Note that I never use the deadly anti-aliasing ,its always off .One more thing some say that may be I have a bottle-neck ,but how supposed this happend while my CPU load is only 39% and my GPU load is 99% ,theoretically the CPU is at ease .SO WHYYYYYYYY the CPU doesn't work at full capacity .PLZ someone answers that question I'm eager to know :bounce:  . my thanks to all .
yours mm
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December 19, 2012 6:10:10 AM

It's not a very CPU intensive game. It only uses 2 cores I think and it won't be maxing them.

So since it see's hyperthreded cores as real even at 100% of the games pulling power you would only see 50%.
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December 19, 2012 6:39:50 AM

darth pravus said:
It's not a very CPU intensive game. It only uses 2 cores I think and it won't be maxing them.

So since it see's hyperthreded cores as real even at 100% of the games pulling power you would only see 50%.



Yes man I know my I3 is only using 2cors with the tech of the hyperthred
but I get this result at the sensor screen :
cpu0:38% cpu1:22% cpu2:35% cpu3:29%
so theoretically I supposed get the result :
cpu0:28% cpu1:12% cpu2:25% cpu3:19%
so what do u think ? :??: 
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December 19, 2012 6:48:08 AM

mhd lord said:
HI guys , I suffer form a real f* frame drop when I play FC3 {27fps} .I use ultra settings ,HDAO ,off AA ,1080P. My pc is msi H55M ,I3 550 ,1333 2*2G ram, and ,Galaxy 560 ti 1G . note that when I turn HDOA to SSAO the frame rate increases to 44 fps , and when I use high settings at the same resolution 1080P I only have the fps 29~31 . SO how can i fix this . Also the use of GPU is 99% while the stupid CPU use is 39% why the stupid thing not work at full capacity :fou:  .
yours mm


HDAO is for AMD GPUs while HBAO is for Nvidia.

So turning HBAO on will give you about same visuals but won't rip on your performance just as much.

I do agree with a lot of the other guys, you do need a better gaming rig. Your rig isn't supposed to run the game on ultra.
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December 19, 2012 6:50:13 AM

Those CPU levels seem fine. HBAO looks better than HDAO which I think is too subtle with a huge performance hit.
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December 19, 2012 7:04:53 AM

darth pravus said:
Those CPU levels seem fine. HBAO looks better than HDAO which I think is too subtle with a huge performance hit.


But dude according to yours word I have to see the cpu level at the sensor like this:
cpu0=50 cpu1=50 cpu2=50 cpu3=50
you didnt answer me yet why the cpu not gives the full capacity ,and how I can force it to do so?
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December 19, 2012 7:13:23 AM

lostgamer_03 said:
HDAO is for AMD GPUs while HBAO is for Nvidia.

So turning HBAO on will give you about same visuals but won't rip on your performance just as much.

I do agree with a lot of the other guys, you do need a better gaming rig. Your rig isn't supposed to run the game on ultra.


a friend of mine who has the same system I have ,except his CPU is I3 2120 with ASUS H65 ,and he gets [50fps at veryhigh] settings and [45fps at ultra] with resolution 1650* .So I try to decrease my resolution 1080P to his 1650* and with no use I still have the same low-frame

So did his I3 2120@3.2/3 makes that huge gap to mine I3 550@3.2/4 .thye both are 2cores CPUs with a hyper tech :o 
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December 19, 2012 8:08:23 AM

But yours is an old arcitecture. Much much weaker compared to the sandy bridge i3.

No I meant the max you would get in theory would be cpu1 50 cpu2 50 cpu3 0 cpu 4 0

But it spreads the load out. Nothing is wrong.
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December 19, 2012 8:58:14 AM

darth pravus said:
But yours is an old arcitecture. Much much weaker compared to the sandy bridge i3.

No I meant the max you would get in theory would be cpu1 50 cpu2 50 cpu3 0 cpu 4 0

But it spreads the load out. Nothing is wrong.


so INTEL just sells us just a fake performance with the tech of hyper .Virtually this tech has no benefit at any thing .And nowadays most advise to buy the new I5 3570k that hasn't the nonsense hyper technology
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December 19, 2012 9:03:10 AM

No. It provides about a 30% boost over non hyperthreaded.

The i5 is a porper quad core so performs better.

You just have an i3 from the days when pretty much only a i7 was worth have for gaming.

The i3's were very useless and were discontinued.

The current sandy and ivy i3's are a massive step up and perform better than the i5's of your generation.
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December 19, 2012 9:22:08 AM

NOW what shoud I do? What will be more efficiently changing my system to I5 3570k ,or buying the new nvidia 660 ti and stick with my old ancient CPU ,especially that most games only use 2cores NOT 4.
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December 19, 2012 9:29:51 AM

To be honest both would provide a boost but bear in mind that more games are using quad core.

To change the CPU you would need a new mobo as well.
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December 19, 2012 9:44:57 AM

So u literally advise my to keep my old pc and buying the 660ti to get more good performance and set to the minimum cost. Or just wait a little more bit and drop the whole system and have a new one.
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December 19, 2012 10:49:30 AM

As long as you have a good PSU you could keep that along with the case.

660ti now and mobo and CPU later.
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December 19, 2012 11:08:11 AM

Thanks everyone .660TI here I come AND goodbye to low frames or that I hope!
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December 19, 2012 12:40:06 PM

chain220 said:
I saw benchmarks of the game just after it was first released and it seemed really demanding.. do you know of any up-to-date benchmarks with this patch?


Based on my own experience. My frame average was fine before the patch but it would dip to low 20s for a second and get back up. After the patch, the experience is a lot more smooth...less sluttering also.

As for a higher FPS average, there's not much else to do than to either tweak the crap out of that game or to get better hardware.

Before you go out buying a new card...have you seen these?
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/far-cry-3-performan...

Nvidia claims the new drivers improve up to 38% on performance with FC3....which would make your:

- 560 Ti: as is
- 660 Ti: 33FPS (+ up to 38% -> so between 33FPS <-> 45FPS - +/- 5FPS because of your old architecture ie CPU, MOBO, RAM, etc). So, between 30FPS - 40FPS.

Now, in the link above, they have AAX4...which you could put at none (if you're playing at 1080P)...or I usually like the AAX2 but that's just me, you should get a little more juice out of it aka run the game smooth enough.
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December 19, 2012 6:15:36 PM

Yes, those were the benchmarks I was referring to. I'm not looking to buy a new card though. I've got just about the best card I can afford at the moment. I'm planning on getting the game though and was hopeful for an increase in overall performance. It should be fine though.
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December 20, 2012 4:29:10 AM

This is the only choice I have .I can't offer a whole new system .So I'll keep my oldy and just buy 660 ti especially it will give me near 20fps bounce to my performance.
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December 20, 2012 5:10:43 AM

Why do you want to boost CPU usage? The problem doesn't even lie there.
i3 is pretty adequate for running FC3.
Your graphic card is the problem.It's pretty old and has only 1G vram so what do you expect?
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December 20, 2012 5:30:36 AM

ZakX11 said:
Why do you want to boost CPU usage? The problem doesn't even lie there.
i3 is pretty adequate for running FC3.
Your graphic card is the problem.It's pretty old and has only 1G vram so what do you expect?

a friend of mine who has the same system I have ,except his CPU is I3 2120 with ASUS H65 ,and he gets [50fps at veryhigh] settings and [45fps at ultra] with resolution 1650* .
So I try to decrease my resolution 1080P to his 1650* and with no use I still have the same low-frame
so obviously the problem lies inside my cpu isn't so !
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December 20, 2012 5:38:02 AM

I was told because my cpu is only two core with a hyper tech ,and when ever I get the sensor reading to my cpu like this :
cpu1=37%\cpu2=23%\cpu3=40%\cpu4=70% \ gpu=99% that means my cpu is actually work at full load ,because theoretically it shoud give me the reading : cpu1=50%\cpu2=0%\cpu3=50%\cpu4=0% ,but that is wrong .I used ADIA64 Extreme Edition to stress my cpu while i'm playing and I get this results : cpu1=100%\cpu2=100%\cpu3=100%\cpu4=100% \gpu=~70% and my frame rate was dropped by10
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December 20, 2012 4:16:35 PM

mhd lord said:
a friend of mine who has the same system I have ,except his CPU is I3 2120 with ASUS H65 ,and he gets [50fps at veryhigh] settings and [45fps at ultra] with resolution 1650* .
So I try to decrease my resolution 1080P to his 1650* and with no use I still have the same low-frame
so obviously the problem lies inside my cpu isn't so !

Have you overclocked you CPu till now?
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January 25, 2014 5:40:11 PM

@mhd lord
Try HiAlgoBoost for Far Cry3 . It should decrease your GPU load from 99% to low number and increase your fps during camera motion...
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