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bojac   08-27-2003 at 07:38:27 AM

I am about to recieve my new OCZ 2x256 duel channel pc3200 ram and it will go with my Abit NF7-S board which has a xp 2500 barton at 333 mhz FSB.

My question is this: Have i shot myself in the leg getting pc3200 ram as aposed to pc2700? This ram obviously is not syncronis with the FSB of the Barton 2500 and was wondering if i will take a performance hit because i got the pc3200 ram?

A follow up question if the answer to question 1 is yes: How realistic, given i have no extra cooling devices, is it to up the FSB to 200 to syconize my pc3200 ram with my FSB of 200?

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scottchen   08-27-2003 at 08:30:37 AM
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Your chip would do 200FSB no problem, if you relax timing on your ram you might even get 210FSB.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   08-27-2003 at 08:37:29 AM
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I was hoping to run the ram at CL 2-2-3-6 1T , which the manufactuer claims it will do. Im not teribly interested in OC my system all to much, maybe 1.9 - 2ghz on the cpu and have fsb of 200 to sync with my pc3200 2x256 ram. If my system will handle that with no problem, I'll be very happy.

Thanks for replying Scottchen.

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JimmyDean   08-27-2003 at 05:04:28 PM
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But you could also run the ram in a 1:1 clock ratio with the fsb instead of h/w select or SPD. That would sync it with the FSB.

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scottchen   08-28-2003 at 04:30:08 AM
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on tight timings your ram should work at 205 no problem, what's the exact name of your ram, does it have copper heatspreader? If you have 200FSB it's alrdy a 2.2G (3200+).

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   08-28-2003 at 05:36:45 AM
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my exact system is AMD ATHLON XP 2500+ 512K 333FSB SOCKET A BARTON with VANTEC AEROFLOW SOCKETA CPU COOLER TMD 5600RPM 35.5CFM 38DBA, 2x256 OCZ duel channel w/ copper heat spreader, NF7-S v.2 nforce 2 motherboard, NGEAR 0302 18IN CASE P4 350W BLACK and ATI 9700 PRO. OCZ ULTRA II PREMIUM SILVER COMPOUND on the CPU aswell.

Over clocking the 333 fsb to 400, plus maybe 100 - 200 mhz on the barton 2500(1867mhz stock) and keeping the 2-2-3-6 timings for the ram with this system is doable??? or will i need additional cooling?

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scottchen   08-28-2003 at 06:51:44 AM
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Aeroflow is great cooler, and your ram can handle up to 2.9 vdimm, which is what OCZ's warrenty cover up to. So this is what you do, set the timings you want, then increase vdimm to 2.9 if your mobo allows it, then increase syncronize FSB with memory frequency, turn up the FSB to 205, check save and exit bios, see if Windows boots, if it does, reset computer, go in bios again, and turn FSB to 210 same deal if it goes in windows then download a program called SiSoft Sandra do the CPU Arithmatic, Multi-media, and Memory bandwidth burn-in tests, do 1000 loop before you go to sleep, keep ur computer on whole night, when u get up if your computer's still doing the same thing then EXCELLENT it's stable, and burning the ram increases its performance. If that all goes well you'll have 2310mhz CPU AMD rating about 3400+

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-03-2003 at 06:32:41 AM
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I figured id do a forum poste update, now that my system is all asembled and running smooth!

I have for the past 2 hours been running Sandra and burning in that barton and ram. The current configurement is (200 x 10) 2ghz so that my OCZ ram can run in sync with the FSB for optimum performance. My temps are shockingly low, concidering im used to seeing 60C on my old 1333mhz thunderbird with 35-37C on the motherboard. My Temp with this system is 28C for the Mobo and 37C at 100% cpu load for 2 hours. My room temperature is 24-25C.

How Far do you think i can take this CPU? I want to keep FSB of 200 but upping my MHZ to 2300 might be an idea id be willing to do. Would i have to increase my Vcore to acheive this? Im just using the stock values for that and im not sure how to fiddle with vcore safely.

My ram CL is running at 2 and other values at 3 3 6.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by bojac on 09/03/03 00:34 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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scottchen   09-03-2003 at 07:28:19 AM
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just use 11x200 that'll get u a 3200+

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-03-2003 at 07:52:32 AM
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Just changed my settings. My ram is now CL2-3-3-6 @2.8V and my CPU is now 200 x 11 (2200 mhz) at an increase of 0.5 on the vcore (1.7 V) I couldent get XP to load on 1.65V. Anything You suggest i do? Right now im running Sandra's burn in test for CPU and RAM. See how things go now. So far iv seen an increase in my CPU temp by 2C. Its now 40C.

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bojac   09-03-2003 at 08:13:22 AM
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Hmmm, After running Sandra for about 25 min, my system just rebooted itself. I just laxed the ram timings to 2-3-3-7 now. Going to see how this helps... Hope i can keep the 2200mhz @ 200 FSB stable. My temps are so low still. Got sandra, hardware doc and bios telling me my temps and there all identical.

What does VCC stand for?????????????? My VCC is 2.91V... seems high from what im seeing as normal.
<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by bojac on 09/03/03 02:20 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

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bojac   09-03-2003 at 08:45:48 AM
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Ok, my computer just did another reboot after about 30 - 40 min of sandra running. I believe i have hit a situation where i can no longer use my limited knowledge of OC to get around this. My Temps dont go over 40C for the CPU on all the over clocks i have done so far so its definitly not overheating from what i have monitored. Im confuzed about voltage settings on RAM and on the CPU to provide stability. Id like to push my FSB of 200 at a multiplier of 11 for 2200mhz but like i have said, i cannot get it stable enough to run without crashing. Right now i have set it to 200 x 10.5 at 1.7Volts and ram at 2-2-3-6 at 2.8Volts..

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scottchen   09-03-2003 at 04:28:52 PM
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More voltage for the CPU, push to 1.75

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 01:51:49 AM
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K, 1.75V now... 200x11 (2200mhz) currently and has been running fine for 2 hours with sandra running the cpu at 100%. Temps are 29C for board and 41C for CPU after 2 hours on both hardware doctor and sandra tempature monitors. Should i go even further? 1.85 V at 200 x 12.5?

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 02:40:47 AM
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what cooling are u using?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 03:59:17 AM
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VANTEC AEROFLOW SOCKETA CPU COOLER TMD 5600RPM 35.5CFM 38DBA and 4 case fans. Dont know exact specs on the case fans but i know there 88mm and in an aluminum case.

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 04:04:06 AM
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Ok, then no problem, go for 1.8V just be sure your psu's handling it.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 04:08:53 AM
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How can i tell my PSU is handeling it? And at 1.8V what setting can i put the multiplyer at? 12? 12.5? 13? Also, will my AGP card be affected? Its a ATI 9700pro.

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 04:11:23 AM
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All nForce2 mobos has AGP/PCI frequency locked at 66/33(very good thing) so you don't have to worry, what kind of power u got? Check your voltages in bios, do they fluxuate a lot? And how far off are they from the standard.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 04:13:38 AM
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Sec, ill load hardware doctor to tell me my voltages... Ill post them in a sec.

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 04:17:36 AM
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Vcore is 1.78, VCC 2.91, +5V is 4.97, +12V is 11.98 (up and down a little by .06V) -12V is 12.11 (up and down .05V), -5V at 5.14 and VSB at 4.99.

PSU is a Icute 400W.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by bojac on 09/03/03 10:18 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 04:21:13 AM
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That looks fairly stable, what graphics card u got in there?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 04:22:24 AM
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ATI 9700 Pro

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 04:30:53 AM
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Umm, then get yourself a new power supply, a decent brand 450watt or just crap brand 500watt. I personally don't feel like taking risk of power not being able to hold.

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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bojac   09-04-2003 at 04:44:35 AM
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Im totaly satisfied with what im set at right now, 200 x 11. If everything is stable at 2200mhz and my ram settings are nice and tight 2-2-3-6 then i cant complain.

Thanks for your posts.

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scottchen   09-04-2003 at 06:57:29 AM
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Are you overclocking your video card at all?

-Intel PIV 2.4C @ 3.84G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Gold 2x256 3700EL memory @ 256mhz 2.5-3-3-7 -Sapphire 9800pro @ 490/780 -SB audigy -80G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 Ultra ATA-133 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

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