I pretty sure that i know a supplier that will supply these cards but I was wondering if a softmoddable 9800SE AIW 128mb will operate as a 9800Pro AIW 128mb. I know that there are sometime issues with AIW cards. Do you think that with this mod the card would run games etc and work faultlessly?
Am I right in thinking that ONLY the ones with L shaped RAM have a 256bit memory bus, thus are the only ones that can be modded into a 9800Pro. Boards with chips along the top only have a 128bit memory bus so performance is hit hard. They perform nothing like a NON PRO 9800 which is actually just a down-clocked 9800Pro. Not only that but them Grandmars ones with TSOP chips along the top are really slow chips, only 200MHz, compared to the 340MHz we are getting from these BGA chips on our L shaped 9800SEs:
200MHz(DDR400) memory and 128bit memory bus = 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth.
340MHz(DDR680) memory and 256bit memory bus = 21.8GB/sec
From what I’ve learnt the 9800se seems to be a way for ATI to use old 9500pro pcbs and 9800 and 9800pro chips that haven't passed the final tests. They were originally only supposed to be released in China but some have found their way everywhere. As well as this because they are so popular, they have used some untested 9800 chips as well. Because it is just a 9800 with 4 of the pipelines disabled you can try softmodding the chip to reenable them and then overclock to buggery and get a 9800pro. The only real estimate I've heard is that it works for about 30% of the 128bit and 35%-45% of the 256bit ones (such as powercolor). It is still a fast card unmodded unless you really stretch it with a and high res where it becomes about the same as a 9600pro. With overclocking etc, it is a 9800pro. Most of the "expert advice" I've heard says get a 9800np for slightly more or a 9700np or 9700pro if you can find one at a reasonable price and overclock those.
Has anyone out there actually done this mod or know anything about it?
<font color=purple> "Overclocking is like jumping traffic lights - <font color=red> not recommended </font color=red> but theres always a bit of slack"</font color=purple>
Am I right in thinking that ONLY the ones with L shaped RAM have a 256bit memory bus, thus are the only ones that can be modded into a 9800Pro. Boards with chips along the top only have a 128bit memory bus so performance is hit hard. They perform nothing like a NON PRO 9800 which is actually just a down-clocked 9800Pro. Not only that but them Grandmars ones with TSOP chips along the top are really slow chips, only 200MHz, compared to the 340MHz we are getting from these BGA chips on our L shaped 9800SEs:
200MHz(DDR400) memory and 128bit memory bus = 6.4GB/sec memory bandwidth.
340MHz(DDR680) memory and 256bit memory bus = 21.8GB/sec
From what I’ve learnt the 9800se seems to be a way for ATI to use old 9500pro pcbs and 9800 and 9800pro chips that haven't passed the final tests. They were originally only supposed to be released in China but some have found their way everywhere. As well as this because they are so popular, they have used some untested 9800 chips as well. Because it is just a 9800 with 4 of the pipelines disabled you can try softmodding the chip to reenable them and then overclock to buggery and get a 9800pro. The only real estimate I've heard is that it works for about 30% of the 128bit and 35%-45% of the 256bit ones (such as powercolor). It is still a fast card unmodded unless you really stretch it with a and high res where it becomes about the same as a 9600pro. With overclocking etc, it is a 9800pro. Most of the "expert advice" I've heard says get a 9800np for slightly more or a 9700np or 9700pro if you can find one at a reasonable price and overclock those.
Has anyone out there actually done this mod or know anything about it?
<font color=purple> "Overclocking is like jumping traffic lights - <font color=red> not recommended </font color=red> but theres always a bit of slack"</font color=purple>
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