P4 Overclockers Beware!!

scottchen

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Stay away from OCZ's new PC4200's performance dual channel modules. THEY SUCK!!, they run at 266mhz 3-4-4-8 at 2.8 vdimm, can't overclock by 1 mhz. They use aluminum heatspreader so the actual memory modules are burning inside, if you don't have any airflow in your case, they'll randomly crash your computer. My friend is using his Abit IS7 combined with this memory, Abit said they fixed the problem with 1:1 overclocking, so generally stay away from these modules. Stay with PC4000 Copper, or Gold if your mobo allows that high of vdimm. Another option is to wait 'til PC4200 copper dual channel's released.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.575G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 2x256 4000EL memory @ 275mhz 3-4-4-8 -Sapphire 9800np @ 432/760 -SB audigy -120G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 

twofruitz

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im buying the OCZ EL DDR PC-4000 Dual Channel Gold Memory which is going to run really fast

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=6973142" target="_new">3dmark2001</A>

2.4C @ 3.0G
Asus P4C800
Corsair 2x512 3200
Sapphire 9600pro @ 500/700
80G Seagate S-ATA150
 

Crashman

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Aluminum heat spreaders are great! The PC4200 is probably PC4000 that's been retested and confirmed stable at the higher speed, and nothing more.

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scottchen

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Then how do you explain the random crashes? The CPU temp and everything were all fairly low, CPU was only at 1.65 Vcore, because it was only at 3.1G, Memory past memtest86, but if you put the memory in Sandra burn-in it'll fail. When i touched the heatspreader, it was wayyy higher than my body temperature. I put a thermal sensing probe on the heatspreader and it was pushing 54C, the heatspreader 54C, i wander what's the temp on the actual memory chip.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.575G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 2x256 4000EL memory @ 275mhz 3-4-4-8 -Sapphire 9800np @ 432/760 -SB audigy -120G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 

Crashman

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The fact that the spreader is HOT proves it's working! Look, if the spreader were plastic it would be cool, but the RAM would be baking underneath. The spreader is doing it's job by conducting heat away from the RAM!

So why is it so hot? They probably used extremely overclocked RAM to begin with. MANY companies are using 5ns (200MHz cycle time) RAM on their PC4000 modules!

The aluminum isn't the problem. The problem is, the chips are producing so much heat that the aluminum cover can't dissapate it fast enough! The only solution I know of it to increase airflow over the module.

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scottchen

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WOW bastards! 5.0ns on PC4000?! Good thing OCZ's using 3.5ns same with Geil i guess that's why their modules overclocks so much better.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.575G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 2x256 4000EL memory @ 275mhz 3-4-4-8 -Sapphire 9800np @ 432/760 -SB audigy -120G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU
 

Crashman

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Yes, unfortunately I'm not at liberty to discuss any specifics, but I can tell you that more information is available at a review site. Perhaps you should google it?

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scottchen

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Crashman, come on man, tell me what companies uses 5.0ns, I promise i won't say a word, please email me.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.575G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 2x256 4000EL memory @ 275mhz 3-4-4-8 -Sapphire 9800np @ 432/760 -SB audigy -120G Maxtor Diamond Plus9 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU