Liquid Cooling

Can anyone suggest a liguid cooling system to replace all case fans that cools VGA, CPU, and possibly lower ambient case temp?
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  1. And how do you suppose use to cool down MosFET and AC/AC coils?
  2. Which is why you never get rid of all your fans - you leave one exhaust and one intake (prefferably a 120mm side-intake).

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  3. Dude there's a bunch of new watercooling posts in this forum just look around - if there's anything specific that you're still not sure about then ask-away, but research it beforehand at least.

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  4. if one cannot get rid of all the fans inside a case, how can one say his system is liquid cooled?? BTW, almost all water cooling still need to dissipate its heat to air either via a radiator/fan or massive fins, so are they really "watercooling"??
  5. Well because the CPU, Northbirdge, GPU (and even Hard Drive, PSU, sometimes RAM) are cooled by waterblocks, which transfer the heat to the water, which is crculated throughout the system, that one can say they "watercool". I watercool, though I only have a waterblock on my CPU (though not for any reason other than lack of funds). The need for fans exists because one cannot completely cool their system via water convection - components such as mosfets and voltage regulators become quite hot and are simply placed too restrictively (and are too small) to easily watercool. Also, PSU and RAM are pains too watercool, though create heat that can be harmfull if not dissipated. Therefore the need for one or two low-rpm system fans is necessary for the dissipation of this remaining heat (though since the majority of high-heat producing components are being watercooled, one can use low-speed, low-noise fans for the little airflow required). As for the cooling of the radiator, the use of a fan is required because the deisgn of the radiator does not passively convect hea into the air, and as such it must be forced with the use of a fan. Should one use an extremely large radiator, the use of a fan might be avoided, though one has to weigh one versus the other, and using a small to medium sized radiator with a 120mm low speed, low noise fan (I personally run 1 120mm fan at 7V, and it puts out about 45cfm at ~22db) is the logical solution.

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  6. lol, i was concerned about the 120mm fan being loud, i have 5 Tt smart case fan 2's in my current system, controlled via the Coolermaster Aerogate 2 and my system is soo loud. I am intrigued by watercooling and excited to start this project. Id rather do this than buy papst silent fans at 18dB for 25 bucks a pop
  7. very true, though Panaflos are in the mid-range price-wise and are nice and quiet (but i know the smartfan2 and at full speed they are LOUD)... but yeah, i mean you can get off with 2 80mm fans and one 120mm fan for the rad and cool your system better than with fans and heatsinks alone

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  8. do they make any special silent 120mm rad fans?
  9. Vantec makes a pretty silent 120mm fan, model is the "Stealth".. checkout the Panaflo M1A as well...

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  10. If this is your first time watercooling it might be a good idea to check out the waterchill kits that asetek do. They are probably not the best watercooling systems out there but if you dont plan to overclock much and just want a quiet system im sure they would be fine.

    <A HREF="http://www.asetek.com/main/page.asp?sideid=418#CPU Cooling kit - KT03-L20 " target="_new">http://www.asetek.com/main/page.asp?sideid=418#CPU Cooling kit - KT03-L20 </A>

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  11. @Colt357TW
    lol, you got somethin against watercooling?
    it's called watercooling b/c you've got water coursing through the system. yes the heatercore is air cooled - so what? we've got to use SOME other name for the system to differentiate it from air cooling - who cares about the name.
    and for the mosfets, some people put heatsinks on em, others don't do anything at all and they're just fine. did you know: the bottom side of mosfets is what needs cooling, so cooling the back of the motherboard is a more effective way of doing this than cooling the top of them. almost no one does this, though, because mosfets really do not need it, unless your voltage rails are getting a bit shaky - which only the most hardcore really care about. the bottom line? mosfet cooling really isn't necessary unless pushing the envelope - and even when people DO do it, they rarely do it correctly (so that a true improvement in voltage rail stability is achieved).

    read:<A HREF="http://www.overclockers.com/tips1115/" target="_new">http://www.overclockers.com/tips1115/</A>
    and
    bah THIS SUCKS, i can't find the article sorry. basically a guy who aircooled the top of them along with heatsinks reports a very slight improvement in rail stability (something like .03V for a given rail) and no help with cpu volts. it's an old article, probably more than 2 years

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  12. noone seems to suggest the Papst fans, despite thier expenisive cost is there any other reason people dont use these?
  13. no they're great fans but too expensive for what its worth, thats why everyone uses Panaflo

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  14. man i hate nouise i sleep with my computer opn 24hrs a day, 7 days a week like 10 feet from my bed

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  15. hahahahhh no

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  16. hah no its not lol
    i need a new vid card more than anythin else, and the maze3 is better than any air cooled crap you've got so stfu :wink:
    besides, i'm gettin an 80Gb to replace my 40Gb by next week, and I'm gettin an Abit NF7-S, some PC3200 and a AXP-2500+ soon so i can blow yours outa the watter.. hah 221mhz fsb bullshit

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  17. actually i think my stuff blows both your asses outta the water, except my limited clockable 2800+ barton but with my watercooling im gonna overclock it as much as possible
    and my video card kinda blows but the ti series was a solid family. Im looking at an asus made fx5900U for 370 with nutty clock speeds :-)
  18. specs

    Asus A7N8X Ultra Delux w/ AMD XP2800+Barton
    Corsair XMS Twinx DDR400 1gig
    Geforce 4 TI4600 128ddr
    Audigy 2 Platinum
    Samsung Silent 7200rpm 80gig
    WD Secondary Crap 5200rpm 40gig
  19. and you think that my rig isn't my "hard earned $$$" - fvck you man

    oooh my warranty is voided on all my components, yeah me too what your point - the good thing about my [-peep-] is i'm a reseller and i can sell off my crap when i want to, and still get warranties on the gear even when its been modded (like my mobo a couple of months ago for instace)...

    so dude, pull that flame out of you @ss and stop buggin me; does it look like i care how many mods you've done on your rig? no

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  20. whats with the need to flaunt fvck, who cares what you have, its what you do with it

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  21. ahhhhh chill, go smoke a j then come back to my thread...... we are suppose to be respectful in this forum man you guys need to relax

    Asus A7N8X Ultra Delux w/ AMD XP2800+Barton
    Corsair XMS Twinx DDR400 1gig
    Geforce 4 TI4600 128ddr
    Audigy 2 Platinum
    Samsung Silent 7200rpm 80gig
    WD Secondary Crap 5200rpm 40gig
  22. good idea dude, i need to go smoke a dube, but no offence man i can't stand stupid fvckin newbz like that flauntin their [-peep-] for no goddamn reason, just pisses me off.. if you aint got some usefull to say don't say it is what i'm gettin at...
    ...no wonder i rarely post here anymore.
    either way, everyone should come to the iRc chat, at least that way we can have proper conversations/arguments :wink:

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  23. ok agreed, but dude, you post your specs too, i mean who wouldnt want to show off thier stuff, and nothing was said about what we use it for. its not a bad thing and braging rights is a huge part of being into computers, except for those rich f*cks who dont work hard for sh*t, i earned every penny for my comp and i will continue to spend dough on it because you and i both love it

    Asus A7N8X Ultra Delux w/ AMD XP2800+Barton
    Corsair XMS Twinx DDR400 1gig
    Geforce 4 TI4600 128ddr
    Audigy 2 Platinum
    Samsung Silent 7200rpm 80gig
    WD Secondary Crap 5200rpm 40gig
  24. well i have a bigger cock than all of you... :smile:

    BTW i doubt both of you have voided all of your warantees...

    for example nic card (ya i bet you oced that)
    hard drive yup mines spinning a nice 7900rpm
    modem 57k?
    sound card?

    I hate this who's better [-peep-] but i would still like to know what mods we have done...

    so for kicks i would like to add...

    voided warantee on mobo volt mod (soldered dip switches to board) soon an agp and pci lock will come
    voided cpu warantee volt mod, pin mod to run in older mobo, overclocking, IHS removal
    GPU overclocking, mounted piii heatsink, vmod to come
    Powersupply, adjusted high pot
    All pci cards cause they have run a 42mhz pci bus


    If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
    110% BX fanboy
  25. im not into hardcore electrical mods, do all those increase performance, the agp and pci lock???

    Asus A7N8X Ultra Delux w/ AMD XP2800+Barton
    Corsair XMS Twinx DDR400 1gig
    Geforce 4 TI4600 128ddr
    Audigy 2 Platinum
    Samsung Silent 7200rpm 80gig
    WD Secondary Crap 5200rpm 40gig
  26. which voltage are u modding agp/chipset/gpu/cpu?


    If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
    110% BX fanboy
  27. what fsb do you run, didnt your old profile say 231? Do you have a pre 400mhz fsb mobo, because thats a lot of voltage to run 231mhz.


    If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
    110% BX fanboy
  28. whats the max voltage epox allows? Just curios (i assume you are using an epox board, i dunno why).


    If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
    110% BX fanboy
  29. my nvidia board has different mhz numbers, and i can change them... with my new maze4 gpu waterblock what should i set my ti4600 to,It had the stock albatron cooler on it which was aluminum and was shoddy. i could always change the mhz in the bios but never did what should i st the voltage and mhz too??? thanks

    Asus A7N8X Ultra Delux w/ AMD XP2800+Barton
    Corsair XMS Twinx DDR400 1gig
    Geforce 4 TI4600 128ddr
    Audigy 2 Platinum
    Samsung Silent 7200rpm 80gig
    WD Secondary Crap 5200rpm 40gig
  30. you need to overclock using a graphics card overclocking program such as powerstrip.


    If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
    110% BX fanboy
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