My First Overclock: The Story of One Boy's Dream

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
So it started at last... After countless of hours of scouring the endless tome of knowledge that is the internet, the little boy decided that he was ready to undertake the monumental task of overclocking.

Eager but nervous he pressed the delete key on his keyboard during the bootup and he was instantly transported to the glowing blue screen where the magic of overclocking happened. Shivering with anticipation, he changed the clock settings from auto to manual. At that moment, the realization of how far he had came hit him. The hours spent learning the art of PC from scratch and the preparation of his first self-assembled system, consisting of a 2.6c CPU with a SP94 and Delta 92mm, Abit IC7-Max3, Corsair twinx 4000 pro 1GB, Radeon 9800 pro 128MB, Audigy 2 ZS, Antec True480 watts, which now laid before him, a testament to the culmination of his studies and effort.

Barely able to control his excitement he keyed in the value 205 under FSB speed and saved. By now his heart was pounding so hard, that the howl of the delta fan was but the beating of wings of a butterfly. He gazed anxiously at the monitor as the system booted up with its new stats. And there it was... His first overclock... 2665Mhz. Tears of joy overwhelmed the little boy. The days spent cooped up in his tiny room pondering over the great tomes of PC hardware while his little friends played and laughed under the bright blue sky, finally, paid off.

In the midst of his crazy dance of jubilation, it suddenly struck the little boy, his job was not done. There was still much to do, tales of feats of 3.6Ghz spurred him to continue his quest for the ultimate overclock. But being a noob the boy decided he would be contented with a mere 3.4 or maybe at worst a 3.2. Happily the boy hit the delete key once more and was once again transported to the magic blue screen. Confident from the success of his previous astounding accomplishment, the little boy then proceeded to up his FSB another 5Mhz. And once again the system booted. The series of successes he had, encouraged him to up the FSB straight to 220. It booted. By now the little boy was thirsting for more and rammed the FSB to 230. Then it happened, the system did not boot. Dismayed but aware and calm, the little boy cleared the CMOS ram and pondered his next move. He decided to up the CPU voltage up a notch and the DDR voltage to 2.8v, and change the memory timings to 3-4-4-8. Still using the same FSB of 230, the little boy crossed his fingers and powered his com once more. As if heeding his wishes the system sprung into life and the little boy hopped up and down. Collecting himself the little boy again bumped the FSB up 5Mhz. This time, it failed to boot. The little boy who by now was quite confident, did not panic and repeated the process of clearing the CMOS and bumping the CPU v up another notch. He realized that an increase in a notch of CPU v bought him another 5Mhz. When he reached 1.65v the little boy decided that he would go no more for fear of melting his CPU core on his first overclock. "Maybe next time." said the little boy. His FSB was now 260 giving him a 3380Mhz CPU clock speed. A little short of his goal but the little boy was happy. Now for the first time since he started overclocking, the little boy did not pressed the magical delete button and allowed the system to boot through. As POST slowly went through the steps, the little boy awaited anxiously, wanting to benchmark his new cpu ASAP.

Then it happened. Something the little boy had not expected. POST halted. At the end of the POST screen, there wrote, cpu error, invalid cpu, change FSB in BIOS. The little boy was surprised but followed the instructions which he thanked god were in simple english not hexanumeric codes. He tuned down the FSB by 2 and prayed. And sure enough god answered his prayers once again and the system completed POST. Just when he thought all was well, again, another calamity struck. The little boy's system restarted before loading win XP. Confused as he'd never read about this in his long tutelage in the arts of OCing the boy was scared. He waited in fear as his system restarted, hoping that it would load this time. But this time god wasn't so kind, and once again the system failed to load XP. Calming himself down, the boy reasoned that the problem might be due to the high clock speed. So he entered the magic blue screen once more but this time saddly, to take away some of the magic. Lowering the FSB to 255, the little boy prayed yet once again, and left it in the hands of god.

It happened! There it was, the XP loading screen! Success! Just as the little boy leaped into the air with unbridled joy the screen warped and his system rebooted yet once more. The little boy looked up into the high heavens and shook his head, thinking to himself that god is indeed a powerful being that works in funny ways. But now, tempered by the pain of defeat and the passion of victory, the little boy is that little bit smarter and that little bit tougher. Again he teleported to the magic blue screen and brought the FSB down another 5Mhz to 250Mhz. Knowing that praying is useless by now, since he'd exhausted all his miracle tokens, the little boy just patiently waited. This time XP loaded successfully! The little boy happily clicked on his profile on the logon screen. His cursor already positioned at location of the SiSoft Sandra icon even before it loaded. Just as he was about to click it, the screen warped and the system restarted. The little boy is little boy no more, now a pissed off punk. The drudgery repeated. The FSB now at 245 and CPU clock at 3185. 15Mhz below the minimum the little boy had set. Discouraged but assured that his system at least now completed the entire boot, the little boy ran Prime95. Barely 10 seconds passed and an error he had. Sigh... Life's tough for the little boy on his first overclock. He repeated the painful task of tuning the FSB down another 5. It hurt him every single time he had to do it, now it was even more painful as he was already below his intended target. Then it went on and on, till now and 230, the little boy is too weak to continue. His heart not being able to take another blow, he called it a day. The little boy knows tommorow he would have to face painful defeat again.

And so at the end, he thought long and hard. Why? Just why is his OC so crappy. Is it the motherboard? But it's an Abit IC7-Max3 and on the abit forums he had read many a heroic stories of gallant overclocks of 3.5 with this board. Is it the memory then? How can that be? Yes sure, the OC was done at 1:1 but it's PC4000 corsair ram, and at the highest OC of 255, it's only running at 510Mhz! And it passed Memtest86! Is it the Cooling then? SP94 with AS5 and 92mm delta = lousy cooling? Presposterious! Is it the cpu then? But how can that be, 2.6c is one of the most overclockable cpus around. Then as the little boy was searching through the abit forums for an answer, he stumbled upon a thread, in which was a post which caught his attention so. And there it was a hint at the truth, another who's fate and plight similar to the little boy's. Posted in the message laid the production code and FPO/Batch No. of a 2.6c. Which bore resemblance to the little boy's 2.6c! At last some evidence that points the finger at the cpu as the culprit. Happy for a moment the little boy was, till he realized that nothing could be done even so.

And here it is the story of the little boy
Who prayed to god
For help on overclock
Now he's a muslim and eats no pork

Moral of the story? Beware 2.6c with production code: DSL6WS
 

bertvandonk

Distinguished
Jun 1, 2001
56
0
18,630
Those utter utter bastards Intel. The CPU only went from 2.6G to where? 3G ish shame. Try and swap/steal an older stepping CPU.Let this be a lesson to a bright young lad.
If it sounds to good to be true it generally is not and
when everybody knows about a really good deal/stock/opportunity it is too late.By the way a very touching story of unrequited attainment. It brought a tear
to my eye and not from laughing.

avandonk
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Now i'm stuck with ram that's too good for my current overclock... sigh... And not too mention a superb heatsink that's just dead weight. Damn u intel! I know for sure now what my next cpu purchase gonna be.
 

Ed_Phoon

Distinguished
Dec 31, 2007
275
0
18,780
A good start!
I think we overclockers had the same moment. My first overclocking was years ago, but still, I can feel the joy of successfully overclock for the first time.

You have read 'Searching for Memory Holy Grail' in Anandtech, and should know the problem with Abit IC7 mobo, why not try a 5:4 Fsb:Ram ratio?
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Hmmm... 230 a good overclock? Wat about the abit ic7? I don't think i recall reading about it in that article. Ran 1:1 cause i got corsair 4000 ram, now at that lousy speed i only need 3700 ram, could've saved 100+, sigh...
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
I thought the guy got it up to 3.2+, i'm only at 10Mhz less than 3Ghz. Plus he works at a shop he could replace his crappy one easy. I'm just a helpless school kid, a kid whose school is filled with hundreds of other P4s whose cases are not locked, a kid whose com labs are not monitored by security cams. A kid who's... Oh... :)
 

Ed_Phoon

Distinguished
Dec 31, 2007
275
0
18,780
I copy this from anandtech.com 'Searching for the Memory Holy Grail' Part 2:
This presented our first problem, since the Abit IC7 has a strange quirk in the way it handles 1:1 memory. No matter what we did, we could not operate the Abit IC7 at greater than a 255 setting (1020FSB). We talked with Abit about this issue, and they are hard at work on a BIOS revision to correct this problem. To be fair, most users will not need to run memory at faster than a setting of 255, and 5:4 and 3:2 memory ratios do not have this issue

Add: I see that you had reached 260mhz fsb, so your IC7 shouldn't have this problem.<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by Ed_Phoon on 12/30/03 02:40 PM.</EM></FONT></P>
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Yep, mine's the max3. I seriously don't think it's the motherboard. Since as you pointed out, it runs at 260. It's gotta be the stupid malaysian cpu. Bet we singaporeans are getting the rotten batch. Mahathir couldn't deny us water so he denied us good cpus. Wat say u we gather the boys at sim lim and do a little covert ops to liberate those poor cpus being used as paperweights at their kampongs?
 

pIII_Man

Splendid
Mar 19, 2003
3,815
0
22,780
How long did you spend on this post?

I didnt read it though if that makes you feel better.

What was the final clock speed and what is the question?


If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a procesor
110% BX fanboy
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Nay, there's no question. Just a tired and pissed off guy bitching, you really should read it, and see how whiny i am. Makes good conversation when talking about whiny lameass newbies.
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Is there any resource out there that compiles the overclockability of the diff production batches of cpus? It would saved countless of people. It would a grand undertaking of heavenly proportions no doubt, but it would earn the undying gratitude of thousands who tread the unorthodox path of overclocking. Hundreds of noobs saved from discouragement on their first overclock. It's too late for me, but not for others... So any idea?
 

Instadeth

Distinguished
Dec 31, 2003
3
0
18,510
The Intel website informs you of the best CPUs to overclock:

http://www.intel.com/design/Pentium4/specupdt/24919944.pdf

These are the last 3 CPUs in the table with M0 stepping:

SL6Z3 2.40 GHz
SL6Z5 2.80 GHz
SL7AA 3.20 GHz, Extreme Edition

Note 20 -

"20. Intel Pentium(R) 4 processor with 512KB L2 cache on .13 Micron Process M-0 stepping is a unique stepping of
Intel Pentium(R) 4 processors. The currently shipping Intel Pentium(R) 4 processor with 512KB L2 cache on
.13 Micron Process D-1 stepping will continue to ship in high volume into the future with no plans for
conversion to M0 stepping."

I found this out by checking a specialist overclocking supplier website, who can supply these CPUs specifically for a slight extra charge. Or if you are lucky you could ask if a supplier just happens to have these types in stock.

There is no need, when overclocking, to gamble if you have overclocking in mind from the ground up. All you will probably do is waste money on expensive RAM and end up with just a slight improvement.
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Thnx, but the link's down, will check in a couple of days.

Wusy: Yes i'm trying to learn! You make it sound so easy, i'm juggling my school course which is molecular biotechnolgy, with this pc thing. Worse, there's no one i know who can teach me, i had to learn in scraps from the internet, and it's not very newbie friendly. Advanced terms and references without explanation, trying to understand is like trying to set the world record for sprinting before learning how to walk. Surprised that i even made it this far, not that it's very much. Thanks alot for your understanding, esteemed god of pc
 

agent2killa

Distinguished
Dec 18, 2003
7
0
18,510
hey, what Mahathir's got to do with your cpu?just admit you've bought crappy cpu and get along with it.if you aren't satisfied,buy another 'Assembled in Malaysia'or any 'Malay' batch cpu.this forum is not about politics.FYI,i'am a Malaysian and i'm proud with my ex-PM.if you've trouble with it,get lost.this forum is not your place to whine.your country created troubles,then solve them.don't blame them on other country.BTY,if you don't like the 'Malay'cpus,throw all Intel and AMD cpus to Malaysia.we are happy to OC them more than you could.

AMD Athlon XP 2500+@2.2GHz
Abit KD7-RAID
Seagate Barracuda V 80GB
3*256MB Kingston PC2700
Winfast A340TDH @342/615
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Can't u tell a joke when u see one? And where did i deny i've got a crappy cpu? I've a super crappy cpu! That's wat all this's about. Lighten up Mr. I love mahathir basher of jews, anwar's play toy.
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Wow, the go ahead from the forum master. But are u sure? This can really get out of hand, it'll be like a bitch slapping contest but boringly one sided. I mean he's malaysian, what more can i say to insult him that hasn't been already dealt to him by him being a malaysian.
 

Coyote

Distinguished
Oct 1, 2003
1,007
0
19,280
Uh oh, the gloves are off...

XP 2000+
MSI KT3 ULTRA-2 KT333
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
512MB PC2700
ABIT G4 Ti4200 OTES 64MB
Win98SE
 
Seems everyone is having trouble with the SL6WS chips.

I am extremely happy with mine. 3.53@1.6v and 3.66@ 1.625v.

Of course there is no reason to run that fast right now so I run at 3.25@1.6v. When I need a little more I can always boost it up in windows for hosting games.

I aint signing nothing!!!
 

Bill_hater

Distinguished
Dec 27, 2003
21
0
18,510
damn man im sry for u i have p4 2.6c with abit is7-e 512mb pc3200 ddr apacer with vantec aeroflow :-D and i got my 2.6 on 3.5 and windows booted up normally but after 5min it froze cuz vantec aeroflow is not exactly overclocking fan...

god bless my p4 2.6c and nVIDIA (fx 5900)
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Whoa, whoa. Hold it there, u guys got it all wrong. This's not a racist thing, me don't even know whether he's malay or chinese. Being a malaysian doesn't automatically make him a malay, malaysia's a huge chunk of of cow crap, he could be anything, though he's probably a boil on mahathir's butt since he likes kissing it so much.

This singapore VS malaysia thing is stupid, it's like hot oil wrestling except the babes are replaced by old men with wrinkly skins, it's pointless. I don't even give an anwar's dildo wat u say about singapore, it's a crappy place. At least i don't live in delusion lying to myself each day that it's the best country in the world. Malaysia and singapore are just 2 pieces of bull poop, except malaysia is alot bigger thus stinkier. Now let's get back to the topic at hand: hearing me whine like a sissy girl.
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
U lucky bastard, i'm now running at 3.055 at 1.65v. 20 hours prime95 stable, got tired of waiting wanted to surf porn. Can't even lower the voltage, any lower and it's unstable. The worse thing is i'm stuck with a splendid board that can't live up to it's full potential and freakingly expensive super fast ram that's slacking off at my fsb of 235. U can bet your behind that the next processor i buy wouldn't be intel, thnx alot for the christmas present.

Wat's your production codes anyway? Bill and Rick? Looks like u guys got a real good deal there.
 

agent2killa

Distinguished
Dec 18, 2003
7
0
18,510
it seems that YOU didn't know what i'm talking about.to tell the truth,u r very racist.i never bashed any s'poreans without a point but you did.to quote "Mahathir couldn't deny us water so he denied us good cpus". what i mean is don't mix politics in this forum. There are people from ALL over the world reading your replies and you shouldn't criticise any country or any leader. you must not talk like you own the world cos you're only a person.BTW, your reply is not a joke. if it is a joke,that's a lousy one. u r a sick person oldcolepotatoes,get urself a shrink.u live in a really cramp place.no doubt that u've smoked your brain too much.you have shown your TRUE side of you when you say "malaysia's a huge chunk of of cow crap".i agree when you say "This singapore VS malaysia thing is stupid",but who started it?if you didn't make your remark,i wouldn't say that.if you are a Spanish,a Mongolian,a Chinese,an Indian,or whatever you are,i respect you.but if you talk something stupid like what you've posted,other peopole will get angry like me.don't you think before you post a reply?F@#k no,you don't like this reply,"Malaysia and singapore are just 2 pieces of bull poop, except malaysia is alot bigger thus stinkier".Where is your brain?S'pore is an island right?so get your own waterlah.What's with Newater,now you drink from ur own p!ss huh?man,u r so desperate.get urself a real life.i hate talking like this but i have to.Malaysians have many ethnicities,so it doesn't matter if i'm a malay or a chinese or an indian.i am a Malaysian.i never said that malaysia is the best country in the world nor did i said Singapore is the worst.i think people should live in harmony and try not to talk s_-t like you,u r pissing off every malaysian with your remarks.BTW,2.6c is one of the most overclockable proc,so try to read more in the net about your prod.code.if u r a benchmark freak,try to lower the RAM timing to,say 3-4-4-11 or 12.i've read somewhere it really boost memory performance and stabilty a lot.

AMD Athlon XP 2500+@2.2GHz
Abit KD7-RAID
Seagate Barracuda V 80GB
3*256MB Kingston PC2700
Winfast A340TDH @342/615
 

Oldcolepotatoes

Distinguished
Nov 29, 2003
51
0
18,630
Like i said i don't care, u seem to love talking about your nation very much, u should go to a i love malaysia forum. If only the things i said have so much effect, i won't be here bitching about my crappy cpu, i'll sending hordes of monkeys to storm intel hq. Just quit boring the people here about your and my country, no one cares.

Wusy, jezzaaa wat the hell are u guys talking about
 

TRENDING THREADS