another 2500 barton oc prob

[supersaki]

I'm trying to oc my XP 2500+, but can only get it stable @ 190 fsb. anything faster and it won't boot to windows (invalid boot.ini) or I get the bsod. The error is different each time, ie IRQL_LESS_THAN_EQUAL or some other crap. Changing the vcore didn't seem to help. It is set at Auto @ 1.6v, but I have tried it as high as 1.75v. One of the bsod errors was something about a page in an unpaged area or something. Do you think it has to do with memory or will my 2500+ just not make it to 200?

DFI Lanparty NF2 Ultra-B
2x512 Corsair Value Series

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[addiarmadar]

Drop your multiplier to 10 and give that a whirl. Just take a look at my config of what I had to do to break the 200 barrier.

Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)

 

[Coyote]

Sounds like memory to me. Is it pc3200 or better?
-relax timings (what are they anyway?)
-increase voltage to memory
-Note I've heard of peeps finding a range say 190, or whatever, where it just won't ber stable no matter what. However, it IS stable at higher FSB, So have tried just going all the way to 200 yet?
Good luck

XP 2000+
MSI KT3 ULTRA-2 KT333
Maxtor 60GB ATA 133 7200RPM
512MB PC2700
9600 Pro
Win98SE

 

[Johanthegnarler]

It's definately memory.

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[supersaki]

sorry, it is pc3200 memory. Corsair Value series from Fry's. When I set it up, I tried to bump it straight up to 200, which is when I got the boot.ini error. I've tried some in between values (193, 196) and it was really unstable, usually not making it into windows. I found at 190 I can only run Prime95 for about 12 minutes before a CHECKSUM error (100 of them actually) I think. I'm gonna play around with it some more tonight. I haven't found where to adjust the mem settings yet. Is it in the GenieBIOS part also?

On a side note, when I leave the memory setting 'by SPD', the mem will be set at about 221 when the FSB is 190, and it changes whenever I change the FSB. I've been leaving it at 1:1 for the most part. Should I leave it at 1:1, SPD, or Auto(what should this set it at btw?)

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[Bahumut]

SPD - Serial Presence Detect
This controls your ram timings
Set this setting to manual instead of SPD
You should get four menu options with values that resemble the below typical timings:
2-2-2-6
2.5-3-3-7
3-4-4-8
You'll probably have 2.5-3-3-7, but I know corsair also used looser timings on some of their value ram.

Loosen your timings (pick higher numbers).
See if that helps.

On a side note, when I leave the memory setting 'by SPD', the mem will be set at about 221 when the FSB is 190, and it changes whenever I change the FSB. I've been leaving it at 1:1 for the most part.

That sounds like you are dealing with two separate settings.
Leave your ratio at 1:1 not auto.
This forces the ram run at the same speed as the FSB.

As said above memory timings should be set to manual not SPD.
Raising the memory voltage may help as well.

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[supersaki]

well, I am typing this post running at 2.2ghz now! so far so good..

I upped the voltage to 1.8 and 2.8 for the mem, and loosened the timings to 3-4-4-8 (it was 2.5-3-3-8)and it seems to be working ok. Now i'm wondering about heat. I'm using the stock HSF right now, how much should I worry?

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[Titanion]

I just posted a question about how hot a Barton gets at 200x11=2200... and with with 1.8v and stock cooling, it should not get any hotter anywhere than inside your computer... if you live in Alaska it might be OK.

Run 3DMark03 five times in a row and post your temps...

Personally, I would not attempt 200x11 with a stock heatsink/fan, but I'm not a REAL man like you...

Really, wait for someone who has been there with a Barton to post, and be careful with your heat at that speed and that voltage...

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[Crashman]

I doubt you need 1.8v core. You probably did need the extra vDIMM though.

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[redface]

If you have a PC3200 crosair value wouldn't that mem timing be a bit conservative?
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A fine day!

 

[supersaki]

it wouldn't get into windows without vcore > 1.725, so I have it at 1.75 right now. Vdimm is still at 2.8. It runs most apps ok, but still not 100% stable. Prime95 doesn't last over 30 mins at 2.2 ghz either. I can't get it to run stable over 189 fsb, which is where I leave it right now. It posts as a 3200+ and runs right at 2.1 which is fine by me.

WHat is the highest you would bump vdimm up to safely?

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[palinorus]

Recently purchased a computer from a vendor with the following specs:

Asus A7N8X-X
512MB PC3200
Athlon 2500

When I viewed the setting in BIOS my settings were:
166 FSB
Multiplier at 12.0x
Vcore 1.85v

My only options for FSB are 133/166/200 (no in-between)
Multiplier up to 13.0x

My questions are:
1. How do I change my FSBs in single units (i.e. instead of jumping from 166 to 200)
2. Since I recently purchased this computer, I'm assuming my Athlon 2500 is locked - so why can I change my multiplier up to 13.0x?
3. The settings above are the ones that came when I had bought the computer - do you think the vendor changed it already?

Any info would be appreciated.

 

[redface]

I think you should use mb softwares to monitor the temp during tests. MBM5 is a good one with option to save temp readings into a file. You can select the time interval between each reading. Up your voltage to >1.75 if 1.75 is not stable enough. Get a decent retail copper heatsink if you can. It definitely helps.

I also would want to monitor the temp of the ram sticks as well. 2.8v is pretty high voltage and as I recall the value rams do not come with ram sinks. And a PC3200 running at 200Mhz is to spec, I don't see the reason to up the voltage that high.

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