can you give me a walkthrough for my 2.6C?

[dougyfresh]

Alright, I've read lots of things so far, still sort of shady about the whole overclocking goes. Since I have a P4C, apparently I have to overclock...everything, is that right? I guess maybe the entire FSB. I have a P4 2.6C, p4s800, radeon 9800 pro, and 2x512 pc3200 mid grade Kingston. **From what I heard, since you have to overclock the whole FSB (is this true), would the memory a) run faster, b) need some sort of heatsink?
Right now I have the stock HS/Fan for the P4, and I'm probably not going to OC it until i get more information, and probably a new HS/FAN.

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In the bios, I see where the multiplier for the CPU speed is locked at 13x, and then it has a manual control for the fronside bus starting at 200mhz and going up to 266mhz, which would (i think) get the CPU speed somewhere like 3044 mhz, or something. I would just like someone to give me a bit of info about the Voltage settings, how the frontside bus will be affected, what parts will be affected, and if I even can with my stock heatsink and fan.

thans a LOT

--doug

p4 2.6 512 HT 800mhz
2x512mb pc3200 kingston mid grade
Sapphire 9800 pro
western dig. 160 gb 7200 8mb
asus p4s800

 

[scottchen]

You won't have much overclocking ability that system, you can't lock your AGP/PCI frequency. You'll get harddrive errors, and your expansion cards'll doing strange stuff when you overclock the FSB. A friend of mine has a similar setup, he has PC3500 Geil Golden Draon instead, but he can't overclock his FSB by a single bit, before his harddrive fails. He has a Maxtor 120 ATA133 hdd.

If you could, return that mobo, and get a P4P800, you probably could find them around 110 dollars or less.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[dougyfresh]

So what exactly is the difference between my 'crap(?)' motherboard and some others? I didn't pay a whole lot of information to which one I got besides 1) I like Asus 2) ddr 400 3) HT 4)800 fsb for the P4 5) ata 133, at least i think 6) onboard stuff the only thing i forgot was dual channeleing, but oh well

p4 2.6 512 HT 800mhz
2x512mb pc3200 kingston mid grade
Sapphire 9800 pro
western dig. 160 gb 7200 8mb
asus p4s800

 

[scottchen]

P4S800, sis chipset, no AGP/PCI lock.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[scottchen]

Okay, i'm going to try to speak English here, what i'm trying to say is, Asus uses SiS chipset for their P4S800 as an economical motherboard, it's very cheap, therefore most options are limited. Overclockers primarily likes motherboards which could lock the AGP(where you plug in the video card) frequency, and lock the PCI frequency(where you plug in all other expansion cards). Those speeds must be locked at certain speeds, otherwise if speed's too high, it'll cause harddrives primarily to stop functioning properly, other devices such as expansion cards, would also stop functioning properly, if clocked too high. The sis chipset motherboard you have cannot lock it, so when you overclock the FSB(Front Side Bus) the AGP/PCI clock will increase with it, causing harddrive corruptions very quickly.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[pIII_Man]

You can still do a little overclocking...not much though...i am almost positive that your 9800 will not take more than a 72mhz agp bus speed...that leaves your fsb at around 210mhz (2730mhz would be your cpu speed)...it wont be a huge improvment, but an improvment none the less...your cpu should have no problem running this speed at stock voltage...

If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a processor
110% BX fanboy

 

[HardWareBoss]

LOL

 

[dougyfresh]

well, I'll probably skip overclocking then, becuase I'm not going to go buy another motherboard (unless I could sell this one). I can set my AGP to 4x/8x , but that doesn't define the frequency does it? Oh well its all good. How much of a difference would I even notice from 2600-2800-3000?

p4 2.6 512 HT 800mhz
2x512mb pc3200 kingston mid grade
Sapphire 9800 pro
western dig. 160 gb 7200 8mb
asus p4s800

 

[scottchen]

agp 8x/4x doesn't define frequency no. You got a 9800pro, you'll get most of your gaming performance out of that. 3Ghz will be nice to have, but 2600mhz is good enough for now. Upgrade the mobo and ram sometimes next year, when price drops dramatically.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

hi there ,i got almost the same system, but i have P4C800 Deluxe, P4 2.6 4X512 3200 Memorie 400, can i overclock mine?

 

[scottchen]

You can overclock yours really high with 5:4 FSBram ratio, since your motherboard is the intel i875 chipset, therefore AGP/PCI lock. Just read the overclocking guide, you'll be able to get to 3.2Ghz, on stock cool.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

Hi scottchen thanks for answer

Am trying to overclock, i read the P4 Guide, but I can’t fiend on my bios, VDimm, control FBS, options do you have any idea where are this options?

thanks

 

[scottchen]

it's in it's under the jumperfree menu, change overclocking to manual, then you'll get a whole new set of options.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

scottchen thanks again man

now whent i change it to manual i got this choices

CPU External F=200
DRAM Frequency = 266,320,400 mhz
AGP/PCI Frequency = 66.60/33.33
72.73/36.36
80.60/40.00
DDR Refernce Voltage 2.85,2.75,2.65,2.55
AGP VDDQ = 1.80,1.70,1.60,1.50

Perfomance Mode = Standar or Turbo

Man can you please tell in your opinion wish should be my better choice, I don’t know anything about overclock, and I never did it before

Thank you, and sorry about my ingles


<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by mata7 on 02/22/04 05:17 PM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[scottchen]

CPU External Frequency 250, Dram Frequency 320mhz, AGP/PCI 66/33, CPU Vcore 1.65, don't change the rest, performance stay in standard. If it doesn't boot, don't worry, turn on and off a few times'll reset the bios, then try a lower FSB, perhaps 235, then keep upping it 'til it stops booting windows.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

CPU External Frequency 235
Dram Frequency 320mhz
AGP/PCI 66/33
CPU Vcore 1.65

then i overclock 10%, and i went from 2.60 to 2.85 is that ok?

 

[scottchen]

don't use AI overclock.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

ehehe ok man now i dint use AI Overclock, and i went to 3.12, now can i damage my cpu or board, do i need to buy a extra fan?
Ohh And i turn on QFan, it that help?

big thanks for you help, one day i will buy you a beer

<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by mata7 on 02/23/04 00:15 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

 

[scottchen]

Download a program called mbm5, then monitor the temp, but at 3.12 i doubt you'll have any problems. You've just gained over 500mhz for free.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[MATA7]

thank you for all you help man, the system is working fine for now, my tempo is board 32"C (90F) , CPU 41"C (102F), I Think am ok

again thanks for you help

 

[o12kpnamja]

i have an AI7 with a 2.6c and 2 sticks of OCZ 4000EL... my problems isn't stabilty or temperature... the system runs very stable at 3.25 (30+ hours on prime95)... my problems is that when it is overclocked like this i get artifacts when i play games that are more cpu intensive... i especially get them on the cpu tests on 3dmark... but strangely only the cpu tests... agp/pci is locked at 66/33 .... the artifacts only show up when i OC over 2.86... with more artifacts showing up the more i overclock... im pretty sure this isn't normal... im wondering if something is wrong with my cpu.... or maybe im doing something wrong?.... can anyone help?...

 

[o12kpnamja]

by the way i have a 128 hercules 9800pro...

 

[scottchen]

I have seen that problem, it's defective ram, i've had the exact same problem, until I got my rams replaced.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[pIII_Man]

defective video ram or system memory?

I would say thats a heat issue...where the case temp rises far enough to make your gpu run too hot...

If it isn't a P6 then it isn't a processor
110% BX fanboy

 

[scottchen]

system ram. I've had this problem, exact same ram, got them switched and now working fine.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU