Something some oc'ers should read.

[Johanthegnarler]

1. Air cooling sucks.
2. Barton 2500+ locked doesn't really enjoy 220fsb.
3. Running in 5/4 memory is a huge hit! I took 2k downgrade in aquamark.


Ok, here's my question. Can i get passed 217?
At least for one benchmark! I can if i lower my memory to 5/4, but then it makes it pointless to even boot.
Think it's worth a shot lowering my timings out of 2-2-2-11?
And now it's time to get something for my video card, i want to hit 19k 2001 scores.

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[scottchen]

With the stockcooling on 9800pro i'm sure it'll do 400/360 without b*tching too much.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[speeduk]

air cooling sucks

In the past it did, well at least for AMD (poor prescott). My A64 cpu sits @ 33C on the stock cooler. About 10C cooler than a barton cpu.

<A HREF="http://service.futuremark.com/compare?2k1=7584476" target="_new"> My rig </A>

 

[scottchen]

That's sort of true, but for us overclockers. Most of the time stockcool won't do the job. High-end aircooling may, but then again there's that whole noise issue.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[pIII_Man]

bs on stock cooling not even 386's did 22c...thats 2c above room temp...

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[Johanthegnarler]

I think i might try a different fan for my thermalright 900u. Becuase right now i'm sitting at 43c.
I don't think it removes the heat from the heatsink fast enough. If i turn of all power to my comp at night it keeps it under 40c for a long time and takes awhile to get it higher.
It's kinda making me mad.. I almost feel like my HSF isn't good enough. Maybe i'll take it off and check my AS job again , maybe i'll scrape some off or something.
But.. cpu temp is 43c, and case temp is 26c. Kinda weird.

As for my video card, i know what i would need to do to oc it, but what affects scores more, clock or frequency?
What's the idea of ocing the video card?
Obviously for me i feel that fsb on the chip is more important over high mhz.

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[Johanthegnarler]

Hah i just took my case off and my cpu temps went down to 36c.. and 24c case. Kinda funny. Maybe i should slap a hole in my pretty little window. ANd a fan? Sort of like a super charger, just shove air into the cpu fan.

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[scottchen]

Video card, VPU's important for the shaders and crap, and memory increases bandwidth, I think it helps AA and AF and stuff. I can't really say whether one's more important the other, both are important, with your stock cooling, try to go for 400/360, then if it's stable go for 415/380. Don't go higher, you'll need a better heatsink, and some ramsinks to be safe.

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[addiarmadar]

Let me fill in some of my exp on this config.

1. 215 in sigle channel is still better than 200 in dual channel.

2. If you have to drop the ram clock to get this higher cpu clock, it will drop in performance. System clock is soo important to the score.

3. Timmings is irrelevant. I got no change from 2-3-3-6 to 2-2-2-11 sigle or dual channel.

4. Just keep the ratio at 1:1 and up the FSB as high as your mobo/ram will permit. May have to drop the multiplier even after increased voltage. You will still a higher performance boost. 220x10 is better than 200x11.

To answer you question if it can pass 217, possible if you have the right ram and Vcore/multiplier settings. Just take a look at wat I did with my pig.

Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)

 

[scottchen]

A friend of mine's running his at 240FSB x10. I don't know how the f*ck he got that high of an FSB on a A7N8X DLX, but he did it, using OCZ's PC3700 EL dual channel kit. BTW he's using the Swiftech MCX462-T, with 80mm Smart Case Fan II.

-Intel PIV 2.6C @ 3.276G -Asus P4P800 -OCZ Copper 4x256 4000EL memory @ 252mhz 2.5-3-4-6 -XFX 5900 128meg 570/1040 -SB audigy -2x120G Seagate 7200.7 S-ATA150 hdd -450 Enermax PSU

 

[addiarmadar]

I can see that. I could do that but would have to adjust the ratio which then at the end give me a performance loss.

Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)

 

[Johanthegnarler]

I actually bencmark different with timings. And i'm crazy i know, but it even feels faster with 2-2-2-11.
My barton is locked at 11.
I'll set my ram to 2.8vcore and can't go any farther stable. Mushkin lvl2 pc3500 1gb. But that's with 2-2-2-11 timings, and i suppose i could loosen those up to get a bit higher. And of course a higher fsb with looser timings will still be faster.

But.. as of now i can run completely stable 3200 speeds @ 1.65vcore, actually a bit lower but i keep it there.

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[Johanthegnarler]

Yea i got to like 225 easily with 5/4 but it was a 2k difference in scores and i wasn't down for that.

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[Johanthegnarler]

Does AS break down after awhile? I swear my temps are getting higher for no reason.

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[Johanthegnarler]

sad news for my little AMD chip. He just wont do anymore than 217.
Vcore up to 1.8, vdimm 2.8 timings 2.5-3-3-6/11/10
Just wont do 1:1 ratio passed 217. Guess i'll just have to settle with 43k mark . Prolly wont be able to get 19k mark in 2001 now either. My dreams are crushed.
I even opened my window for just in case purposes cpu under full load is 36c

I guess I should be happy with my 85 dollar 2.3ghz cpu.

Sniffle* Stupid radeon, i wish i had a nuclear reactor , i wouldn't have to worry about oc'ing the newer 5950.

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[addiarmadar]

That is the average OC for the Barton 2500. Chip doing that at 1.8v is pretty good since most would have to up it past 1.9

Barton 2500+ @ 2200mhz (10x220 vcore @ 1.8)
Asus A7N8X Dlx 440 FSB
1gb Geil GD pc3500 Dual Channel (2-3-3-6)
Segata 80gb SATA 8.5ms seek
ATI Radeon 9800 Pro(420/720)

 

[recruit370]

i win
barton 2500+ @ 2310mhz (10.5*220 @ 1.8)
asus a7n8x
512mb ocz pc4000 (2-4-4-8)

was anyone else able to keep at stable at 10.5?


i'm 7 years old and a million times smarter then you!!!

 

[jihiggs]

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[Johanthegnarler]

i dont think so.

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[folken]

you should oc the radeon. that will effect ur score more than ur cpu. my 9800pro 256mb goes all the way to 450mhz/380mhz no problem. It even goes higher now that I have liquid cooling on it. I'm glad I'm not to concerned about 19k cuz I'd be goin crazy. I usuall get 18700 ish, sooooooo close. I also have a barton 2500 runnin 200x11 @ 1.65vcore. I guess my one main boost is having liquid cooling but oh well, runnin at 16-18C doesn't really effect things all that much.

 

[Johanthegnarler]

Yea, funny you said that i was at my local idiot supermarket and i bought a 15 dollar thermaltake giant 2 gpu cooler.
of course since i have no ramsinks on the memory i can only max at about 380 as well. 415core without anyproblems. I only get artifacts while nearing the 380 memory mark.
Although the cooler isn't that great, it's definately not bad. I dissed it at first, but it definately spreads the heat quickly.

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45.5k mark? 85 dollars went a long way. So did that extra 15 dollars for cooling my video card.