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basmic   07-02-2003 at 01:00:32 AM

Me and the ball and chain had a fight. We ended fist-fighting, and I managed to get hold of a broken cup. When my partner went for me, he caught his right upper-wrist and tore a main artery and a vain.

Before I proceed any further:
1) Yes, I am gay - any problems, please post them here
2) It was a domestic over a petty thing. I didn't want to come off computer, and he wanted to watch a film and started bitching, and the rest started from there... . :frown:
3) It was an accident - I would never have attacked anybody. I'm actually more shocked than he is, because it is the first time (since I punched my cousin's nose when I was 7yo) I have drawn blood from anybody or put anybody in hospital!
4) He (Gary) is ok, and is recovering from his operation tonight.
5) We've been together nearly 23 months, and we do love each other...I know, soppy... :redface:

Anyhow - you're probably wanting to know what I'm dribbling about. Well it's the time-length you have to wait in hospitals. I needed to vent my anger before I cracked up, so here goes...!

We had the fight at 12-1am, Sunday morning. Ambulance took us to A&E, and we were out by about 3-4am and told to come back at 8:30am the same morning, because Gary needed surgery - but in another city (in Middlesbrough) where there was a plastic surgeon to repair the vein. We lived in Darlington, and they'd transport us their...not so bad, but not what I wanted to hear :frown: ..*sigh*...

Sunday 8:30am. Arrived, waited, waited, waited....whenever we asked, we were told they were waiting back from Middlesbrough General Hospital for a slot in the operating theatre. Come 5pm, we were still in Darlington waiting to hear from Middlesbrough General Hospital. They sent us home, and told us to be there on Monday morning, 8am pronto.

Monday 8:00am. Arrived. Told us Doc was writing a note for us to go to Middlesbrough General Hospital with, so they knew what was what. Roll on 11am, we were on our way to Middlesbrough - FINALLY! We got there, they checked Gary over and told him he could in the theatre that evening. You guessed it....we weren't! Come 9:20pm, they told us we could go back home (not being sent to operating theatre queue), and return for 8:00am, Tuesday, morning. So we got the train back to Darlington...

Tuesday 8:00am. After having to [~peep~] the bed to get up at 5:30am to catch train etc, we arrived back in Middlesbrough. After a long wait of until 4:00pm, Gary finally got seen to in the operating theatre. He came out at 5:30pm, drowsy, still asleep because he'd had a general anasthetic (spelling?). Come 8pm, we decided he was wasn't fit to come home, so I had to come home at 9:00, and guard the fort until tomorrow which is when I'm expecting him home.

What that essay was about, was a rant about how disorganised hospitals are. I really am dissapointed in the NHS, especially when I found out we should have been sent to Middlesbrough on the Sunday!

Sorry for boring you folks, with a totally non-computer related topic - but I needed to get if off my back. I feel better now. :smile:

<font color=orange><b> :smile: I guess THG is a drug in it's own way, and potentially harmfull! :smile: </b></font color=orange>

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camieabz   07-02-2003 at 01:07:05 AM
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Wish I could have seen that. No offence, but it's the preverbial handbags at dawn. [trying to see the funny side of it for ya]

Hope everything chills for you both. A few words of wisdom (from my Grandfather I think).

Never fight with the family (I'm sure this applies to you here) because it's never forgotten and it always hurts, no matter the winner.

Look at it this way, next time you offer him a cuppa, you'll have his full attention.

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Flamethrower205   07-02-2003 at 01:27:00 AM
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Dude, sorry to hear about what happened- is everything going to be ok between the two of you and all? Was he bleeding badly? Man, I got so scared when I read ball and chain cause I also do hammer in track and field and thought u hit urself with one of those (which would be 90% lethal). Hospitals truly suck in that respect. I mean when my dad's apendix burst, his condition got drastically worse (suddenly he got these terrible pains and started throwing up and what not, and in 2 days he was way worse- later when the doctor cut him open she said it was the worst she had ever seen). He waited an entire day at the er and then they finally operated- the doc admitted it was a matter of a 2-3 hours before he had died. Reassuring to know. After such experience when we broke my leg we were wondering if it was best just to do something at home cause they made me wait there all night.

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Anonymous   07-02-2003 at 02:46:29 AM
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Hey, you guys can legally have sex now. Those hypocritical judgemental right wing b!tches can't tell what to do since that law passed. Sorry in advance if that wasn't a cool thing to say.

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Auburn9698   07-02-2003 at 03:32:10 AM
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You thought him and the track hammer had a fist fight?

Uhh....O....K....

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silverpig   07-02-2003 at 04:29:01 AM
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Exactly what I thought... :)


But yeah, Canada owns for stuff like this. I cracked my hip once (fractured bone) and after 3 days of me being lazy I decided to get it checked out. Went to the doctor at 3 pm, got a referral for x-rays at 3:15, drove to the hospital by 3:40, x-rays done by 4 pm, back to doctor with x-rays by 4:30... cost: 0$ :)

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Auburn9698   07-02-2003 at 04:32:17 AM
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Heh-heh!

My brother and a friend were drinking and watching the first Scream movie, back at Auburn. Afterwards, they start horsing around with a knife, and our friend ended up stabbing my brother in the elbow. Still gives him pains, to this day.

And I missed the whole thing. Depressing. :frown:

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zpyrd   07-02-2003 at 04:59:05 AM
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Well I know your frustration. It's the same here in Canada with tax funded medicare. Sometimes I think they let sick people die because it's less expensive.

This happened to my sister.
One night she had terrible stomach pain. The pain kept getting worse the next day. When the next evening arrived she couldn't take the pain anymore so she went to the Hospital. The ER doctor examined her and his diagnosis was gallstones but he wasn't 100% sure so he wanted an ultrasound performed. Well ultrasound is a fairly common diagnostic tool. But the hospital did have an ultrasound technician on staff 24 hours a day so she had to go home then come back again.
When she went back to the hospital they confirmed the ER Doctor's diagnosis.
Now this is where it gets stupid.
Hospitals have surgeons on staff 24 hours per day to deal with trama cases. However since my sister's illeness was considered a chronic problem the Hospital refused to have their staff surgeon remove her gallbladder.
My sister is in acute pain but all they would do for her was prescribe pain killers (demerol and Tylenol #3).
The Hospital told her to go see her general practicianer (family doctor) and tell her doctor what happened and to have her doctor schedule an appointment with a surgeon to have her gallbladder removed.
Well this involves her doctor geting the hospital report. Then her doctor has to write up a new report to submit to a surgeon. Well the waiting time to get the next available appointment with the surgeon that her family doctor is affiliated with takes 3 weeks.
Once she sees the surgeon he agrees with the ER doctor and her family doctor that her gallbladder has to be removed.
Now the surgeon has to schedule the surgery for the operation. Which happens to be at the same hospital she went to in the first place!!!! The surgeron books the appointment and it is two months wait to get into the hospital.
So in the three months she had to wait she had three more attacks that were so bad she had to back to the same hospital where they would give her more pain killers.

Now if the hospital just booked the appointment when she went the first time it would have saved the Canadian tax payers a couple thousand dollars because she would not have had to see her doctor to make an appointment with a surgeron who has priveleges to use the hospital.

I call it piss poor management of out tax funded medical system. Worst of all my sister was in terrible pain and missed a great deal of work waiting for her surgery. The hospital could have used their staff surgeron to do the procedure and she could have been fully recovered by the time she actually had the surgery.

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silverpig   07-02-2003 at 05:09:17 AM
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It's pretty sweet out here in BC. Granted, I don't have to go to the hospital much, but every time I've had to I've been in and out quicker than a 16 year old virgin.

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ksoth   07-02-2003 at 07:33:21 AM
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Man that sucks. I've fortunately never had a bad hospital experience, even though I've only been to the ER once. When I cut the tip of my finger off it was merely an hour or so wait in the County hospital emergency room, then I saw a doctor, who cleaned my finger up and sent me home. Not so bad. I only wish I took pictures right after the accident instead of 3 days later, as it looked much grosser when it happened before it started healing. Oh well... My brother, though, who's been to the ER numerous times for numerous injuries, had some several hour waits. But, whatcha gonna do?

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Flamethrower205   07-02-2003 at 08:10:53 AM
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No I meant he was just using a term to express that he hit himself.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

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RobD   07-02-2003 at 08:59:51 AM
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Another nail in the coffin of our already corpse like NHS. Load of bollocks the system is, really. They ought to scrap it and start again.

Glad to hear Gary's alright, and look at it this way. He won't be arguing with you anymore, since you became a badass. :wink:

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basmic   07-02-2003 at 09:55:51 AM
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<b>camieabz</b>: Humor is what I needed last night to keep spirits afloat. Nothing worse than worrying :frown:

<b>flamethrower205</b>: Yeah all is going to be well with us both. Sadly, Gary will probably be scarred for life. There's also a small possibility that the "numb feeling" that was in his hand before the op may reside for good. Hopefully his hand will function as normal, however!

<b>cooltek</b>: Legal or not, we already had sex. :redface:

<b>zpyrd</b>: I feel your agony from the torture of waiting man. I truely do!

<b>ksoth</b>: If you pay privately, you wait a few hours, get fixed, and likely back home within 24 hours. Pisses you off, huh?

<b>RobD</b>: Gary's the one who is usually the 'badass'. It guess it was pure chance I caught him. He's the butcher one between us both, but it doesn't stop me biting back sometimes when we're arguing. :redface:

Just to keep you guys informed: Gary is due home this morning, after puking his guts up less than an hour after I left him to go home!

<font color=orange><b> :smile: I guess THG is a drug in it's own way, and potentially harmfull! :smile: </b></font color=orange>

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Auburn9698   07-02-2003 at 01:35:34 PM
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You thought he hit himself with one of those? That would be.....interesting, to say the least.

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papasmurf   07-05-2003 at 01:36:52 PM
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you know why they call us right wingers? because we're right, and you're wrong. Though I don't know why they called you left wingers... oh well must have been to make people think it was the other meaning of right that applied to us. Yeah that's it. As for the whole gay issue, personally I think it's wrong but if you wanna drive on that side of the road just be carefull you don't get hit. This sudden "ok to be gay" mentality is a product of public schools and liberal bullshit. There's a reason God gave you a dick and it's not for shoving up sombody elses ass. If he wanted that he'd have just given them a pussy.

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svol   07-05-2003 at 03:14:21 PM
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LOL... you really make a fool of yourselve by saying things like this.

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Anonymous   07-05-2003 at 06:19:26 PM
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Svol can you get me a discounted ticket to anywhere in Europe? I want to escape from this bullsh!t of idiotic extremists (on both sides).

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Jake_Barnes   07-05-2003 at 06:44:47 PM
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The horror ... The horror ...

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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pike   07-05-2003 at 06:46:41 PM
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you tell him, sweety

lol

[if the universe produced gays and lesbies there is a reason for it...]

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pike   07-05-2003 at 06:48:53 PM
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hope he is ok...keep us informed, ok?

<font color=red>I`m going to make you love me, oh ho, yes i will, oh ho, yes i will \\\ give me love and affection, oh ho, sent it in my direction, oh ho! I want to make you love me oh ho yes i do ... </font color=red>

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Jake_Barnes   07-05-2003 at 07:06:25 PM
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Quote :

if the universe produced gays and lesbies there is a reason for it...


The universe/nature produced disease, war, famine, genocide, congenital abnormalities, people with a predilection towards pedophilia, etc., etc. - now, does that make these things appropriate or desirable?

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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James35   07-05-2003 at 07:22:23 PM
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The earth is to god, what jerry springer is to us.

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James35   07-05-2003 at 07:25:25 PM
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Shakes head... I ... gotta.. get off ... this rock. LOL
can't belive he did't know what he ment.

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Flamethrower205   07-05-2003 at 07:25:43 PM
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If you want to argue over some of those, things such as disease, war, famine, are in effect population controls. Terrible to us, yes, but perhaps without them we would be dead.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

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Jake_Barnes   07-05-2003 at 07:26:45 PM
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Sorry, but I have no clue what you're trying to say.

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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pike   07-05-2003 at 07:26:58 PM
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the universe`s answer to you is: yes

<font color=red>I`m going to make you love me, oh ho, yes i will, oh ho, yes i will \\\ give me love and affection, oh ho, sent it in my direction, oh ho! I want to make you love me oh ho yes i do ... </font color=red>

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Flamethrower205   07-05-2003 at 07:27:49 PM
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Have you ever been in the ring with one of those? Every time I start swinging it I'm half praying it doesn't hit me-it's truly terrifying if it goes out of control. Not interesting imo. I have almost killed a few people with a discus and watched as a discus zoomed literally 1 mm away from my best friend's head. Eeek.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

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Jake_Barnes   07-05-2003 at 07:36:35 PM
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Well, on that point - we'll disagree!

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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pike   07-05-2003 at 08:23:11 PM
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it`s nice to arrive at an agrement about a disagrement without any ego trip on either side

in my opinion most disagreements outside the empirical scientific fields are a result of ego's influence

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basmic   07-05-2003 at 09:21:39 PM
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As it happens, we are both fine. Gary is just resting his arm. Sadly, it is his right-hand - therefore shaking hands with his best friend won't be so easy for a few weeks/months! :redface:

<font color=orange><b> :smile: I guess THG is a drug in it's own way, and potentially harmfull! :smile: </b></font color=orange>

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RobD   07-05-2003 at 09:24:17 PM
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Well, I suspect some left arm education is in order. And fast.

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pike   07-05-2003 at 09:27:24 PM
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i hope you will soon stop putting one of these :redface: after nearly every darn post you put up

anyway, watch out for infections...i mean in his arm... :redface:

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dwellman   07-05-2003 at 09:37:27 PM
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Quote :

the universe`s answer to you is: yes



You mean, it's not "42" anymore?


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pike   07-05-2003 at 09:44:12 PM
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?

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RobD   07-05-2003 at 09:56:12 PM
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Douglas Adams: The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. 42 was the answer to the meaning of life and the universe.

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RobD   07-05-2003 at 09:58:01 PM
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...*applause*...

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pike   07-05-2003 at 11:05:24 PM
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i hearn a lot about that book but never picked one up

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Angie! Oh Angie! sure can`t say we didn't tri-i-i-i. Angie! I love you baby! Everywhere i look i see your eyes!

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jihiggs   07-06-2003 at 03:16:36 AM
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personaly im all for the dont ask dont tell mentality. i dont want to see it and i dont need to hear about it. reason a, i find it offensive, reason b its just not my buissness.

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Jake_Barnes   07-06-2003 at 03:46:07 AM
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(Let me restate): opere citato

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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pike   07-06-2003 at 04:24:21 AM
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Why are you telling me this and what exactly are you telling me?

anyway, for me, in general, there is nothing i don't want to talk about or that offends me, because i know what part of me gets offended and i try not to pay attention to that part

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zpyrd   07-06-2003 at 04:26:41 AM
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Who is Angie?

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Jake_Barnes   07-06-2003 at 04:29:26 AM
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Pike - Are you "coming out" in a hardware forum - oh jesus.

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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pike   07-06-2003 at 04:38:58 AM
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angie don't you weep, your kisses still taste sweet.

every were i look i see your eyes

there ain't a woman that comes close to you....

the stones man!

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zpyrd   07-06-2003 at 04:43:49 AM
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Angie oh Angie

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pike   07-06-2003 at 04:44:56 AM
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yeah

one of my favs

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Jake_Barnes   07-06-2003 at 04:52:29 AM
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This is now "officially" too weird. I'm done here in this underworld for some time. Freaks - I'm telling you - Freaks.

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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zpyrd   07-06-2003 at 04:57:54 AM
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What's the matter little fella?
The only weird stuff here is the normal stuff.

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Jake_Barnes   07-06-2003 at 05:27:44 AM
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Let me know when you see a "little fella" you can really handle ...

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...

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zpyrd   07-06-2003 at 05:40:59 AM
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You're about as much fun as pet rock tonight. :frown:

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Jake_Barnes   07-06-2003 at 06:04:45 AM
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About as much fun as your average Canuck . But "little fella" - you wouldn't won't to verify that.

But Officer, I wasn't speeding - I was qualifying ...
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