Does this scare the crap outta ya?

I dunno why but this article and its follow up one scared me deeply that parents could do this to their children, bad as they may have been...

<A HREF="http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html" target="_new">http://observer.guardian.co.uk/magazine/story/0,11913,987172,00.html</A>

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Well, based on the one girl who has been sent there because she "picked the wrong boyfriend?" Tells me that place should be shut down. Due to the fact that if the place will accept kids for something so minor. Then they do not have there heads screwed on right. Why? Is what I want to know, was so bad about the boyfriend? Was it because he had black hair and brown eyes, the parents prefered blond hair and blue eyes? Was he too short? To tall? To fat? To thin? Was a B average student?

If tranquility bay was in it to help the truly bad children they would of simply said. No that doesn't qualify. So there in that tells me there more for the money, than the welfare of the children. To me that place is nothing more than a totalitarian regime.
It has nothing to do with helping children get back on a decent path.

The girls parents should be placed in a similar situation and then have a talk with me in three years and see how much they enjoy it.
I truly wonder how much of the light in there eyes would be left, after going thru such a hell.

Those parents are a waste of skin.

Did, I, really.

where does it say

This is what the entire section reads.

It does not say she was screwing half of New York.
It does not say she was doing drugs.
It does say that <b> an unsuitable choice of boyfriend had her sent here at the age of 17</b>

It does not say why.

She was a straight a student and on her way to harvard, that, it does say. What it <b>does</b> imply is that her parents <b>did not like the boyfriend</b> due to the fact he may of not been going to harvard. he may of been a lower class guy than what they wanted for there "little girl".

She is used to being in money and having expensive items about her. How she talks even suggest this to be more of a class fight than a sex, drug, and rock n roll case.
That is why at the age of 19 when she should be in harvard she is still there due to the fact that her parents are keeping the university over her head.
She obvioiusly wants to go to harvard in a bad way to stay in it. Knowing, she couldn't make it on her own with 50 lousy dollars to her name. So she is biding her time.


Try reading it again.

What <b>you</b> are doing, is trying to justify that reason way beyond what is said.

Here is what I have to say about it. A childs respect is not the right of the parent, it is a privilage. There is a document that should be coming in to play here it is the Constitution. As citizens of the United States every one of those children has had their freedoms stolen, that they would lose something so sacred and so hard won, paid for by the blood of countless soldiers and worked for my millions of individuals, is beyond wrong. That word can not begin to describe the horror that it is. The man who runs the facility has no knowledge of child psychology nor does he have any place manipulating the minds of children. A mind is sacred it is the one thing no one can take from you, your thoughts are yours and yours alone. To brainwash a person is to steal their essence and to kill their individuality. What it comes down to is this: Parents are responsible for the upbringing of their child. If they mess up and their child gets into drugs and sex it is their fault. Not the kids. It is the kids choice, if they want to do drugs and alcahol that is their right- no let me rephrase that it is their CHOICE and it is their right to chose. A parent should not be allowed to take the easy way out and send their child to a place like this. Behavior modification in any form should be outlawed, to subject a child to this kind of emotional strain, can wreak havoc on them. I would be interested to know what kind of mental health those subjected to this have. I'd imagine depression perhaps clinical and permanent to be common. Prison inmates and soldiers that experianced the exact same routing each day have historically had long lasting dammage done to their brains. This place is immoral, unconstitutional, and wrong in the most horrible ways. I am sending a letter to my congressman, I hope you will do the same.

Treat your body like a $600 car. God didn't intend it to last so use it. Run it into the ground!

exactly a person should be able to think whatever they want to think. Ground them, Spank them, for Gods sake RAISE THEM! Just let them retain that one human right - the freedom and privacy of thought.

A womans body is a temple built upon a sewer.

[major fVcking rant]
i feel like throwing up and i couldn't even finish reading part two of the article. maybe i will try in a while. only in america would parents even remotely consider doing this. why you ask because these rich a$$clowns have no parenting skills whatsoever. the answer is to send their kids away instead of dealing with them directly.

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one more

i would love to beat the crap out of this person take his kids away and castrate him, then we'd throw him in prison until he learns to act like a decent human being and realizes you must spend time with your children not ignore them. these parent should be tortured shot in the knees tortured again, shot in the elbows tortured again and left in a cell to rot and die. this is sickening and disgusting to even think that such things go on is disturbing. people like this have no business having children in the first place. the fact not one person has any qualifications save a high school diploma should raise alarm bells left and right. the fact that these kid's civil and constitutional rights are grossly violated should be alarming. the fact that this place uses violence, threats of violence, intimidation, humiliation, isolation, all classic symptoms of brainwashing should raise major fV@#$2g alarm bells. the fact this guy who developed this system knows this would be illegal in the united states is proof that it is wrong. [/end major fVcking rant]


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i agree. problem is with the jamaica site according to article is that it provides plenty of employement on money for jamaica so the government is too interested, especially since none of the kids there are from jamaica. the parents of these kids are atrocious. if you would actually do that to your kid words cannot express the outrage. this happens because parents do everything but pay attention to their kids. these people want trophies not kids it is sickening. most telling fact is that it cost $25,000 to $40,000 dollars a year to "modify their children's behavior". like the rich they are paying someone to "fix" their "troubled" kids. if my parents would ever have done this i would have killed them. then i would have killed the people responsible for this nightmare. i have no mercy or remorse for people this evil.

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cambieabz please tell me or anyone else who lives in england that no parents from england would ever send their kids here. i have faith that the people of england are a bit more family orientated.

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That's why i took the lightest one, simply to show those who would say, ya but look how out of control they are. to , and you still think this is ok to put a kid thru this for something so minor?
guess the point was lost.

so are the kids who went and our going thru this. they need to be deprogrammed. this is cult-like

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You make a solid counter-statement. I implied about the drugs and sex stuff. But that had to be where they were going with that. Now the part about not going to Harvard unless she goes to tranquility seems pretty shady.

IMHO, this place sounds good for kids who are JUSTIFIED in being there.

Alot of those Maury Povich phucks.

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and idea is that kids can only be send there by a judge,
but then is het the same as an prison, and can you modify al the childeren prisons. but 40.000 dolar a year, i believe that is less then the goverment of the netherlands pays for a criminal in a prison per year.

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I don't understand how this is possible without people dying. If I was put in this situation I would spend every waking moment trying to kill people.

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well, if this has to be discussed and some people can not figure out that this is flat wrong? the world is in sorrier shape than i give it credit for.
If anyone belives that belittle a kid making fun of some mental illness they have or because you don't happen to like the boyfriend, its justified to put kids in a place like that, then some of you are no better than that sickfvck thats running the show. if anyone bothered to read it all, you will note that someof them have been shut down due to abuse. and when you reprogram anyone. even in kidnappings, the ones being abused tend to sympathise with there totures kidnappers or the cult they were in. once you read a few cases like that come back and tell me how this is not unlike those and how those kids deserve that. i dont give a damn how bad they are.

isnt it a bit odd that these kids once they leave the place answer the exact same way? is removing one's independance, the way to cure the sick or the bad?

if you belive that being grey and thinkng the exact same thoughts as everyone else is the way to go . then check your self in to the place and have a go at it.

I am gonna shut up now before i sincerly get pyssed here.

have fun all.

liek ive said before :

see that? look, another one of our freedoms has flown away.




its somethign like this that can lead to something bigger.

"well if its ok to do THIS type of (brainwashing [insert politically correct and misconcieving word for brainwashing]) on these types of people, then why dont we do this someone stronger form of (brainwashing) on these people who are more troubled?"



you know, this last 2 years one can see so many things changing in teh way humans act. its like all morals and thought logic has almost dissapeared. its very scary!. its liek sinse we hit teh year 2000 or so, humanity has taken a dive worldwide, a fast downward spiral

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what question was i asking. the only one i remember is does england have parents that would send their kids to this hell?

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