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February 3, 2013 5:50:18 PM

Hey, Newcomer here.
Im asking for some advice, my PC is getting kinda old, and i cant afford a new rig, so i wanted to know whats the best 2 components i can buy (avoiding bottlenecks) to get and overall gaming performance boost.
my pc:
NVidia GeForce 9600 gso 512
motherboard -> asus p5kpl-am SE
storage -> samsung sp1654n ata (i know ssd would be better but would it be worth it?)
4 GB DDR2 Kingston Memory Frequency 459.0 MHz (2:3)
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 OC @ 3.2Ghz

thanks in advance for any help.

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February 3, 2013 5:58:30 PM

GRAPHICS CARD ONLY...unless 64 bit OS ..if so ram as well

All the best Brett :) 
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February 3, 2013 5:58:42 PM

oh and i have a 1920x1080 monitor, if u need more info just ask ty.
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February 3, 2013 5:59:48 PM

im using 64bit windows 8
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February 3, 2013 6:07:23 PM

Zer0PT said:
Hey, Newcomer here.
Im asking for some advice, my PC is getting kinda old, and i cant afford a new rig, so i wanted to know whats the best 2 components i can buy (avoiding bottlenecks) to get and overall gaming performance boost.
my pc:
NVidia GeForce 9600 gso 512
motherboard -> asus p5kpl-am SE
storage -> samsung sp1654n ata (i know ssd would be better but would it be worth it?)
4 GB DDR2 Kingston Memory Frequency 459.0 MHz (2:3)
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 OC @ 3.2Ghz

thanks in advance for any help.


The 9xxx cards are outdated, but people still use them to low - medium setting gaming today. I'd say you'd have to upgrade 3 parts, including the RAM, being that DDR2 is outdated and that 459MHz is way too low.

It all depends on your budget, reply back and I'll try my best to help you.
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February 3, 2013 6:09:04 PM

storm slider said:
The 9xxx cards are outdated, but people still use them to low - medium setting gaming today. I'd say you'd have to upgrade 3 parts, including the RAM, being that DDR2 is outdated and that 459MHz is way too low.

It all depends on your budget, reply back and I'll try my best to help you.


thanks for the help
my budget is around 200 euros for now
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February 3, 2013 6:33:53 PM

Zer0PT said:
thanks for the help
my budget is around 200 euros for now


It would be best to buy a new PC. That's a really tight budget, being about $275.00 USD.

Alright, RAM for 4GB is way too overpriced. Being about $70.00, I can buy the newer DDR3 8GB RAM with that much money. We`ll just do CPU and GPU.

After some research, this is your best bet:

A new CPU (There are 4 like new used CPUs, best to the lowest costing one for 50 euros): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-E8400-Core-Duo-Processor/...

A new GPU (Found a 650 Ti, best to snatch one since there are only 4 new in stock): http://www.amazon.co.uk/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-650-90-YV03B...

Those are the best upgrades you can go for if you`re willing to spend 3 - 4 extra euros. Reply back and let me know what you think, this is the most you can make out of your money.
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February 3, 2013 7:22:56 PM

storm slider said:
It would be best to buy a new PC. That's a really tight budget, being about $275.00 USD.

Alright, RAM for 4GB is way too overpriced. Being about $70.00, I can buy the newer DDR3 8GB RAM with that much money. We`ll just do CPU and GPU.

After some research, this is your best bet:

A new CPU (There are 4 like new used CPUs, best to the lowest costing one for 50 euros): http://www.amazon.co.uk/Intel-E8400-Core-Duo-Processor/...

A new GPU (Found a 650 Ti, best to snatch one since there are only 4 new in stock): http://www.amazon.co.uk/NVIDIA-GeForce-GTX-650-90-YV03B...

Those are the best upgrades you can go for if you`re willing to spend 3 - 4 extra euros. Reply back and let me know what you think, this is the most you can make out of your money.


wow this is awesome.
just some question
If get these parts i don't need to get a new motherboard?
and can u say whats the difference from like buying the GPU you said ( around 179euros) from a example VGA ASUS GTX650 2GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI - GTX650-E-2GD5 thats like less 40 euros
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February 3, 2013 8:59:48 PM

Sorry for replying late. The "Ti" version has slightly more performance, and these are compatible with your motherboard. The CPU is socket 775 which your motherboard's socket is.
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February 3, 2013 9:23:15 PM

storm slider said:
Sorry for replying late. The "Ti" version has slightly more performance, and these are compatible with your motherboard. The CPU is socket 775 which your motherboard's socket is.


so do you think the slight performance is worth the price difference?
because im thinking in getting the GTX650-E-2GD5 and 8gb ddr3 ram(maybe 6 is enough?), and in some weeks i can buy the cpu. what your opinion?
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February 3, 2013 9:35:16 PM

Zer0PT said:
so do you think the slight performance is worth the price difference?
because im thinking in getting the GTX650-E-2GD5 and 8gb ddr3 ram(maybe 6 is enough?), and in some weeks i can buy the cpu. what your opinion?


Your motherboard only supports DDR2 RAM. And DDR2 RAM is overpriced ($70.00 for like 4gb?) If you want, go with the non-TI. If the one you saw for 50 euros less has less then 2 fans, then just go with the one I mentioned.
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February 3, 2013 9:42:38 PM

Zer0PT said:
Hey, Newcomer here.
Im asking for some advice, my PC is getting kinda old, and i cant afford a new rig, so i wanted to know whats the best 2 components i can buy (avoiding bottlenecks) to get and overall gaming performance boost.
my pc:
NVidia GeForce 9600 gso 512
motherboard -> asus p5kpl-am SE
storage -> samsung sp1654n ata (i know ssd would be better but would it be worth it?)
4 GB DDR2 Kingston Memory Frequency 459.0 MHz (2:3)
Intel Core 2 Duo E7400 OC @ 3.2Ghz

thanks in advance for any help.


I'm gonna be honest - get a new build. Upgrading just isn't worth it in your case. It's way too confusing, and your motherboard is outdated which could effect what you can get. You won't be able to get a significant increase. However, if you wish, go with what I said, or get the non-Ti 650. But I highly recommend you get a new build, and even if you decide to, I would be able to help you with no struggle.
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February 3, 2013 10:05:45 PM

Zer0PT said:
here a pic of my psu , http://postimage.org/image/55zpoa6tr/


250 watts... You won't be able to upgrade to that GPU with that. You'll also need a new PSU.

Listen, just get a new PC. I can tell you good parts depending on how much your budget is.
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February 3, 2013 10:06:42 PM

storm slider said:
I'm gonna be honest - get a new build. Upgrading just isn't worth it in your case. It's way too confusing, and your motherboard is outdated which could effect what you can get. You won't be able to get a significant increase. However, if you wish, go with what I said, or get the non-Ti 650. But I highly recommend you get a new build, and even if you decide to, I would be able to help you with no struggle.


so what do you think i should get?
can i save any part of my current build?
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February 3, 2013 10:08:44 PM

Zer0PT said:
so what do you think i should get?
can i save any part of my current build?


As said, what you can get depends all on your budget.

And you can't save any parts unless you want your new build to have outdated parts. I don't recommend saving any. You have to start out fresh.
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February 3, 2013 10:20:53 PM

Hey mate.
I wish to give you a great video made by Jack Frags, he's a great commentator.
If you got the time, and if you can save around 100 more euros or even less if you can find deals, or just buy lesser components, take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh455l3348s
He makes a "Steam box" for 300E.
Goodluck!
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February 3, 2013 10:21:33 PM

k, so what will i need?
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February 3, 2013 10:23:44 PM

Zer0PT said:
k, so what will i need?


If you're willing to buy a new PC, what's your budget?
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February 3, 2013 10:26:53 PM

taltool24198 said:
Hey mate.
I wish to give you a great video made by Jack Frags, he's a great commentator.
If you got the time, and if you can save around 100 more euros or even less if you can find deals, or just buy lesser components, take a look at this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bh455l3348s
He makes a "Steam box" for 300E.
Goodluck!


awesome video thanks
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February 3, 2013 10:28:16 PM

storm slider said:
If you're willing to buy a new PC, what's your budget?


what do you think of the build on the video that taltool posted?
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February 3, 2013 10:47:54 PM

I have no idea about the so called "steam box", it may be something new, I don't know.
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February 3, 2013 10:53:20 PM

im gona post a build i did using components from a store(i have no clue even if i can use these combination of parts):
i want to try to get components from this store because i have a buddy that works there and i can get a discount on them.

MB ASUS Chip Intel H61 SK1155 2XDDR3 mATX-P8H61-M LX3 PLUS
Disco SSD KINGSTON 120Gb SATA 3 V300 - SV300S37A/120G
Dimm KINGSTON HyperX DDR3 4GB 1866MHz - KHX1866C9D3/4G -
Processador INTEL G2120 3.1GHz 3MB Ivybridge VGA LGA1155
VGA ASUS GTX650 TI 1GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI - GTX650TI-1GD5

opinions? can i get better? is it bad?
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February 3, 2013 10:59:04 PM

Zer0PT said:
im gona post a build i did using components from a store(i have no clue even if i can use these combination of parts):
i want to try to get components from this store because i have a buddy that works there and i can get a discount on them.

MB ASUS Chip Intel H61 SK1155 2XDDR3 mATX-P8H61-M LX3 PLUS
Disco SSD KINGSTON 120Gb SATA 3 V300 - SV300S37A/120G
Dimm KINGSTON HyperX DDR3 4GB 1866MHz - KHX1866C9D3/4G -
Processador INTEL G2120 3.1GHz 3MB Ivybridge VGA LGA1155
VGA ASUS GTX650 TI 1GB DDR5 DVI/HDMI - GTX650TI-1GD5

opinions? can i get better? is it bad?


Not a bad build. You have 1866MHz RAM which is more then enough, however it is only 4GB and 8GB is recommended for gaming builds. The GPU isn't bad either. The motherboard is up to date with LGA1155. The CPU seems to be a bit up to date. And you got a large, 120GB SSD. However, try to get a 500GB/1TB+ HDD.
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February 3, 2013 11:01:05 PM

about the psu i have no clue if any of 500W is enough or should i get a specif one
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February 3, 2013 11:09:41 PM

i guess about the cpu i can try and get this one , to be more updated
INTEL Core i5 3350P 3.10GHz 6MB LGA1155
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February 4, 2013 10:25:12 AM

Zer0PT said:
i guess about the cpu i can try and get this one , to be more updated
INTEL Core i5 3350P 3.10GHz 6MB LGA1155


I'm not sure about that i5, it's locked because it doesn't have the "k" in it. But still, i5's are what people use the most for gaming and light video editing. Also, for the PSU, get a good 550 - 600W PSU. But has to be good like corsair.
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