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skinnyjoint   10-03-2004 at 09:13:11 PM

hey i got a 2500 barton. and i wana over clock but am concerned about heat. i have a thermaltake silent boost right now. i idle around 42 c no oc right now. i wana get a better hsf. i would like it quiet silent boost does that job nicely and money under 50 bux

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Mr5oh   10-04-2004 at 05:02:22 AM
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Your heatsink really isn't that bad now. Try overclocking it some and see what your temps do. Most of the extra heat will come with extra voltage, if you stay near stock voltage, you won't create much extra heat. You should be able to overclock some with your current heatsink. Doesn't hurt to try.

Anyways keep in mind that good cooling and quiet generally don't go together, without going to water cooling. So if you plan to run 2.5 ghz, at low temps, expect some noise, otherwise, you will have to tolerate a little higher temps.

Anything below 60° C is acceptable. So you still have some room to play with.

Also not sure what the bottom of your heatsink looks like, but if it is a little rough, lapping it will drop your temps a 2-3°, in general.

Try the heatsink that you have currently, before you spend another $50 on a heatsink.

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skinnyjoint   10-04-2004 at 05:48:44 AM
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grrrr. lol alright thx. i oced it before and got it up to about 2.2 and i cant remember what my temps were ill get to it by the end of this week though and keep ya posted. thx for help only reason i want to bump vcore cuz 2.2 was bout all i could get out of it without doing the vcore

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Mr5oh   10-05-2004 at 04:59:30 AM
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2.2 ghz, is pretty good without raising the VCore, in fact really good. Many people get up to 2.5 ghz, on air cooling with higher VCores.

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addiarmadar   10-07-2004 at 11:56:11 PM
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Looks like your doing good with the current HSF right now. If you want to do major oc then I would just go for watercooling but just to get 2.2ghz then that HSF should work out fine.

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skinnyjoint   10-08-2004 at 03:23:39 AM
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well right now its not oced and it runs at 47 underload benching etc. i heard up to 60 is fine so should i bump the vcore up and mess with some other crap heheh. also i wana throw another fan or 2 in my case. but no more slots is there some sorta "fixture" lol that i can mount on the top of the case.... or would that mess up my air flow of sucking in from the front to the rear?

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addiarmadar   10-08-2004 at 10:18:18 PM
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Mounting fans on top of the case better be for sucking air out but that will only deal with the drive heat and maybe the PSU, not really much with the CPU as long as your psu has 2 fans. If the top of the case is cool then I really won not bother putting a fan on top.

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skinnyjoint   10-09-2004 at 12:03:57 AM
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well so no other way to make the chip cooler is this an ok temp for not overclocking? and should i bump it up?

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addiarmadar   10-09-2004 at 12:35:42 AM
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I normally try to keep the OC temps below 50c to promote absolute stability but no more than 60c. At this limit it will scramble on you and cause much instability

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Mr5oh   10-09-2004 at 01:31:24 AM
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You still have some room to mess with, just keep it below 60°. Also keep in mind this 60° is just a recommendation really your CPU can run hotter, but shouldn't run this hot, if it does its a sign your heatsink isn't keeping up. You should be able to go farther, and your temperature jump should be minimal.

Anyways, whats the bottom of that heatsink look like? Lapping it can generally gain you a couple of degrees. Its a little bit of work, but lowering temps is always good.

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skinnyjoint   10-09-2004 at 05:27:27 AM
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ok so i have a lil room to work with... when u guys talk about lapping etc... i dont really know what your talking about... but i can learn if someone wants to teach me. and what i need to do or look at....
if i take it off then im going to have to reaply themal paste right?

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Mr5oh   10-09-2004 at 06:23:44 AM
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Yeah if you take the heat sink off, you really should reapply thermal paste for best results. Anyways on the lapping, it just depends on who rough the bottom of your heatsink is. Lapping just involves basically polishing your heatsink to a nice shine, to make it perfectly level on the bottom, that way there aren't any irregularities on the surface of it. Basically you start with something around 1000 grit sand paper, and work your way up to at least 2000 grit. Its best to use a sand block of some sort, as sanding with your fingers, generally doens't sand the most even. If you do this, make sure you clean the bottom really really good with alcohol, as you will find that doing this creates a lot, of really fine dust. Took several cleanings for the rag to come off of the heatsink clean when I did mine.

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addiarmadar   10-09-2004 at 03:03:56 PM
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Lapping is the process of removing the milling (lined gaps) on the bottom of the HSF; Removing the creases to promote an absolute linear surface and maximize the surface contact between HSF and CPU die.

To perform this, you would use a fine grit (like 2000grt or so) sandpaper and press and slide the bottom of the HSF against the sandpaper. MAKE SURE YOU ARE DOING THIS ON AN FLAT LEVEL SURFACE OR YOU WILL RUIN THE HSF!!!!! A good stroke movement is to make the "8" movement across the sandpaper. You would keep doing this till the creases that came from the milling are removed and the bottom is smooth as possible.

Afterwards clean the HSF off thoroughly with 90% Alchohol and dry off before reinstalling the HSF.

There you have it, Lapping.

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skinnyjoint   10-14-2004 at 01:38:29 PM
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whoa kinda like an echo in here lol but thx i think i might try that when i get some sandpaper maybe this weekend cuz now that i think about it my hs might have been a lil rough but hwo knows thx for advice

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Mr5oh   10-14-2004 at 04:27:31 PM
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Just make sure when you do this, that you do it on a level surface (As you already know). I used 1500 grit to start with as I couldn't find 2000 grit that day, and sanded it with my fingers (And I know better). Anyways when I started with the 2000 grit last night, I noticed some places were getting shiney sooner than others, meaning it wasn't perfectly level.

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skinnyjoint   10-15-2004 at 02:12:58 AM
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so would u recomend that i put the sand paper like on a tile floor and sand the heatsink like that or.... maybe find some wood to back the sandpaper and then rub it on the hs

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lb19984   10-15-2004 at 05:47:54 AM
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If you have an extra 200 bucks to kill get yourself a reserator 1
you contradict the laws of overclocking silence and an overclocked rig
If you hook it up just to the processor without the videocard waterblock you'll get nice temps too




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