Ok, here is my situation. I am currently running a P4 2.533GHz. It is OCed to 2.85GHz. To do this I underclocked my RAM to DDR355 (177.5MHz; I have an Asus P4PE MB) and then OCed the FSB from 133MHz to 150MHz (~12.8% boost). This brought my RAM to 200MHz and my CPU top 2.85GHz.
But now I am looking to move on. I built my brother's AMD64 3200+ and it is very snappy and <b>quiet</b>. In comparison my P4 is a vacuum. I have on occassion mistaken my P4 for a vacuum (I am not joking... love the system, but the noise is too much).
I decided since I have a 6800GT AGP and it looks like the X800XL will take a while to hit $300 there is no point trying to go the long way of selling my 6800GT to get a X800XL to get a PCIe MB. The 6800GT should do fine for a few years if no other quality AGP GPUs come to market in the future.
So I am looking to get on the AMD64 / 939 platform and since I am sticking to AGP I am hoping this can be a reasonably priced upgrade. <b>My goal is <i>quiet</i> with stock cooling and overclockable. 2.4GHz with a 90nm AMD64 would be my base goal.</b> I already have 1GB of solid RAM, so I am not looking to upgrade my RAM for the overclock--I would like to do something similar to what I did with my P4. Set the RAM at a lower setting and the OC the system.
So, the questions:
1) What CPU? 3000+ (1.8GHz) or 3200+ (2.0GHz)? There is about $50 between these two. Getting from 1.8GHz to 2.4GHz is a bit more than 2.0GHz to 2.4GHz and I am not totally sure how the memory plays into this. Assuming that the AMD64 with HT works like the P4, a 3000+ would take a 150MHz RAM setting and a 33% OC for the CPU/RAM to get a 2.4GHz/200MHz. The 3200+ would be setting the RAM at 166MHz (DDR333, pretty standard) and then a 20% OC to get a 2.4GHz/200MHz CPU/RAM setup. So if I went with a 3000+ it would appear that I would need a MB with quite a few settings to accomadate what I am doing because 133MHz (DDR2100) is too big of an OC (50%) and 166MHz (DDR333) would be only a 20% OC when bringing the RAM up to 200MHz. Am I confusing the P4 with the AMD64 too much? What CPU would you guys suggest?
2) What MB? At least 8 USB 2.0, SATA (at least 2), ATA100/133, Gb-LAN. Firewire would be nice, as would 4 DIMM slots. Sound is not necessary. Something that allows the AGP slot to be locked for speed is a must. I want something that is OC friendly but reliable with solid drivers. Some flexibility with the memory settings will most likely be necessary.
3) What is a proper temp range on a AMD64 90nm at load?
Remember: Quiet, Stable, Stock Cooling, and Stock RAM (DDR400 Corsair Value Select). Affordable is also important, but a total of $350 for MB/Processor would be a good investment. I am also looking to get a quiet fan.
Also a link to a nice concise AMD64 OC guide would be nice
Sorry this was so long, just wanted to give all the relevant info.
Ps- Current System is as follows. Note that I am only looking to replace the CPU/MB.
CPU: P4 2.533GHz (OCed 2.85GHz) with loud Areoflow fan
MB: Asus P4PE
RAM: 1GB (2x512MB) DDR400 Corsair Value Select
VID: eVGA 6800GT
Sound: SB Aud 2 ZS
2x HDD: 74GB Raptor SATA and 80GB Maxtor ATA100
DVDRW & DVD_CDRW
FDD
WinXP SP2
But now I am looking to move on. I built my brother's AMD64 3200+ and it is very snappy and <b>quiet</b>. In comparison my P4 is a vacuum. I have on occassion mistaken my P4 for a vacuum (I am not joking... love the system, but the noise is too much).
I decided since I have a 6800GT AGP and it looks like the X800XL will take a while to hit $300 there is no point trying to go the long way of selling my 6800GT to get a X800XL to get a PCIe MB. The 6800GT should do fine for a few years if no other quality AGP GPUs come to market in the future.
So I am looking to get on the AMD64 / 939 platform and since I am sticking to AGP I am hoping this can be a reasonably priced upgrade. <b>My goal is <i>quiet</i> with stock cooling and overclockable. 2.4GHz with a 90nm AMD64 would be my base goal.</b> I already have 1GB of solid RAM, so I am not looking to upgrade my RAM for the overclock--I would like to do something similar to what I did with my P4. Set the RAM at a lower setting and the OC the system.
So, the questions:
1) What CPU? 3000+ (1.8GHz) or 3200+ (2.0GHz)? There is about $50 between these two. Getting from 1.8GHz to 2.4GHz is a bit more than 2.0GHz to 2.4GHz and I am not totally sure how the memory plays into this. Assuming that the AMD64 with HT works like the P4, a 3000+ would take a 150MHz RAM setting and a 33% OC for the CPU/RAM to get a 2.4GHz/200MHz. The 3200+ would be setting the RAM at 166MHz (DDR333, pretty standard) and then a 20% OC to get a 2.4GHz/200MHz CPU/RAM setup. So if I went with a 3000+ it would appear that I would need a MB with quite a few settings to accomadate what I am doing because 133MHz (DDR2100) is too big of an OC (50%) and 166MHz (DDR333) would be only a 20% OC when bringing the RAM up to 200MHz. Am I confusing the P4 with the AMD64 too much? What CPU would you guys suggest?
2) What MB? At least 8 USB 2.0, SATA (at least 2), ATA100/133, Gb-LAN. Firewire would be nice, as would 4 DIMM slots. Sound is not necessary. Something that allows the AGP slot to be locked for speed is a must. I want something that is OC friendly but reliable with solid drivers. Some flexibility with the memory settings will most likely be necessary.
3) What is a proper temp range on a AMD64 90nm at load?
Remember: Quiet, Stable, Stock Cooling, and Stock RAM (DDR400 Corsair Value Select). Affordable is also important, but a total of $350 for MB/Processor would be a good investment. I am also looking to get a quiet fan.
Also a link to a nice concise AMD64 OC guide would be nice
Sorry this was so long, just wanted to give all the relevant info.Ps- Current System is as follows. Note that I am only looking to replace the CPU/MB.
CPU: P4 2.533GHz (OCed 2.85GHz) with loud Areoflow fan
MB: Asus P4PE
RAM: 1GB (2x512MB) DDR400 Corsair Value Select
VID: eVGA 6800GT
Sound: SB Aud 2 ZS
2x HDD: 74GB Raptor SATA and 80GB Maxtor ATA100
DVDRW & DVD_CDRW
FDD
WinXP SP2
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