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<ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
news:40f28e19.2153404@news.charter.net...
> Do you want to mess with a Sun Ultra and Solaris?
Well, I might, just for the fun of it. ;-)
Seriously, it would (might) be a useful thing to have on the CV.
Having said that, I kind of get the feeling, from reading the press etc.
that Sun are in recession and Linux is on the rise, so maybe I don't want to
mess with Sun....
> You don't necessarily need a more expensive purpose-built Intel server.
Just
> standard motherboard with a BIOS that allows headless operation...
Yes, that would probably do it. I was just thinking about David Efflandt's
comments and thought a machine designed for this type of use might be
'better'. Depends on cost really. If I got a cheap (cheap!) Sun or server
box that might be ok, but otherwise I'd go with an normal Intel machine.
John
>Ben Myers
>
> On Mon, 12 Jul 2004 10:34:59 GMT, "John Fryatt" <jrf1@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Davod,
> >
> >Thanks for your advice. I did kind of wonder about that, 'normal' PCs not
> >really being designed for running as headless servers. The thing was kind
of
> >triggered by seeing a cheap Sun Ultra for sale, which is designed to run
> >headless. Maybe I'll get one of those, or a purpose made Intel server
> >machine....
> >
> >Regards, John
> >
> >
> >"David Efflandt" <efflandt@xnet.com> wrote in message
> >news:slrncf34dj.foh.efflandt@typhoon.xnet.com...
> >> On Sat, 10 Jul 2004, Tom Clydesdale <t.clydesdale.nospam@comcast.net>
> >wrote:
> >> > It's been quite a while since I last saw them but I remember that
there
> >were
> >> > switches that permitted running multiple cpu's from a central
location
> >with
> >> > one keyboard and monitor. Don't know or remember who made them
though.
> >>
> >> They are called KVM switches. Some have 2 ports with cables, and some
> >> have more ports (but cables not included). They allow operating more
than
> >> one PC with same Keyboard, Video (monitor) and Mouse.
> >>
> >> I had mixed results when configuring an older PC with Mdk 7.0 for
serial
> >> terminal (via minicom on adjacent PC through null modem cable). In
that
> >> case if I configured serial console for Linux
(append="console=ttyS1,38400
> >> console=tty0 hdd=ide-scsi"), I could NOT see boot messages from serial
> >> port (except in logs). If I also enabled serial during boot in main
> >> section of lilo.conf (serial=1,38400n8), I could see boot messages
fine,
> >> but login screen response was very sluggish (seconds for each char to
> >> appear). In neither case could I see the LILO menu.
> >>
> >> Some server machines (even Intel cpus) can be totally configured and
> >> controlled (even CMOS setup) from serial port, but not most home
machines.
> >>
> >> > "John Fryatt" <jrf1@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:CHZHc.1205$325.137@newsfe3-win.ntli.net...
> >> >> Well, yes. I guess I could do that. The keyboard could just lay on
top
> >of
> >> >> the system unit.
> >> >>
> >> >> One reason I was asking about this is that I saw a Sun Ultra for
sale
> >and
> >> >> looked it up. Apparently these are designed to be run headless, and
if
> >> > they
> >> >> don't 'see' a keyboard etc. on boot they go to the serial port
looking
> >for
> >> > a
> >> >> terminal. Just thinking about how a PC could be set up similarly. It
> >makes
> >> >> for a neat arrangement if you don't have unnecessary clutter around.
> >> >>
> >> >> John
> >> >>
> >> >> "David Efflandt" <efflandt@xnet.com> wrote in message
> >> >> news:slrncf0d7c.2e0.efflandt@typhoon.xnet.com...
> >> >> > yOn Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:27:02 +0100, John Fryatt
<jrf1@ntlworld.com>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > > Hi,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > I have just acquired a new PC (Dell, sorry - Gateway don't sell
in
> >the
> >> >> UK
> >> >> > > anymore), and I'd like to confure my old G6-400 as a server
running
> >> >> Linux.
> >> >> > > I want to operate it 'headless', i.e. without monitor , keyboard
or
> >> >> mouse.
> >> >> > > As regards the monitor I can simply not connect one, but I think
> >the
> >> > PC
> >> >> will
> >> >> > > not boot if it does not detect a keyboard/mouse.
> >> >> > > Apparently some computers have an option in their BIOS setup for
> >> > running
> >> >> > > without a keyboard and mouse, but I can't see it in the G6 BIOS.
> >> > Anyone
> >> >> know
> >> >> > > if this is possible?
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Can't say for sure. But I just run my headless PCs in basement
with
> >> >> > keyboard and mouse attached (one is my pppoe/masq/router). I
> >normally
> >> >> > access them with ssh (or Putty in Windows). But in a pinch, I
could
> >> >> > simply connect a monitor.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > David Efflandt - All spam ignored http://www.de-srv.com/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Efflandt - All spam ignored http://www.de-srv.com/
> >> http://www.autox.chicago.il.us/ http://www.berniesfloral.net/
> >
> >
>
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