Tom's Hardware Forums » Overclocking » CPUs » Is this a reasonable OC for a 3500+ Venice?
 

Is this a reasonable OC for a 3500+ Venice?




Word :   Username :  
 
Bottom
Author
 Thread : Is this a reasonable OC for a 3500+ Venice?
 
Profile: addict
More Information

Running:
- Antec p180 case
- Antec TP 550w PSU
- A64 3500+ Venice
- DFI nf4 Infinity SLI mobo
- Artic Silver 5 TIM
- XP-90 Heatsink (aluminum, NOT copper)
- ? What fan should I get for the XP-90?
- 2gb (2x1024) OCZ pc3200 Platinum RAM (2-3-2-5 / 2.6V)

Should I be able to EASILY, with 1:1 ratio for the memory and no voltage increases anywhere, be able to get a safe/easy/painless overclock from the stock 2.2 to 2.4?

STOCK: 200mhz x 11 = 2200mhz
OVERCLOCK: 220mhz x 11 = 2420mhz
** That would bring the 3500+ to a 4000+ is that right?

And just leave everything else at default (RAM, vcore, vdimm, etc.)?

If not could you please explain what else I may need to change?


Thanks a ton...


P4c 3.2Ghz NWood / ABIT AI7 / 1GB XMS-Pro DDR 3200 / BFG GF-6800GT 256mb / Antec 380W

A64 3000 Venice / Epox 9npa-U / 1GB HyperX DDR 3200 / XFX GF-6600GT 128mb / Antec 330W

Related Product

Register or log in to remove.

Profile: addict
More Information

no that is not a 4000+ becuase the L2 cache is only 512.
you would need a 3700+ san diego for the 1mb cache.

(\__/)
(='.'=)
(" )_(" ) bunny pwns j00

Profile: addict
More Information

ugh, why do they only give 512k cache? Do all venice cores have only 512k??


P4c 3.2Ghz NWood / ABIT AI7 / 1GB XMS-Pro DDR 3200 / BFG GF-6800GT 256mb / Antec 380W

A64 3000 Venice / Epox 9npa-U / 1GB HyperX DDR 3200 / XFX GF-6600GT 128mb / Antec 330W

Profile: addict
More Information

oh wait... the San Diego core is also Rev. E?

What's the difference between the San Diego & the Venice? Which one is better? The San Diego I assume? For some reason I thought the San Diego was an older core...

So actually the 3700+ is the best bang for buck?

(also I was still wondering about original questions in my first post :) )

Thanks!


P4c 3.2Ghz NWood / ABIT AI7 / 1GB XMS-Pro DDR 3200 / BFG GF-6800GT 256mb / Antec 380W

A64 3000 Venice / Epox 9npa-U / 1GB HyperX DDR 3200 / XFX GF-6600GT 128mb / Antec 330W

Profile: member
More Information

You probably won't get to 220mhz at 2-3-2-5 timings. Keep these fast timings at ~210 and use a divider to get to 2.4GHz or above. The fsb speed has less influence on A64 performance than memory latency; 200 with fast timings using a divider is better than 220 with slower timings 1:1 at the same GHz.
Similarly, the larger cache of the San Diego vs the Venice core has little impact on actual performance. I'd spend the extra $50 or so on a better video card, assuming Venice and SD O/C similarly well.

Profile: addict
More Information

Ok, so it won't be a "true" 4000+ because of the 512k cache. But from what I have read, the 1mb cache makes very little difference... so is it safe to say that the performance would be within 3-5% of the 4000+ on the THG interactive CPU charts? (so, "almost" a 4000+)?



P4c 3.2Ghz NWood / ABIT AI7 / 1GB XMS-Pro DDR 3200 / BFG GF-6800GT 256mb / Antec 380W

A64 3000 Venice / Epox 9npa-U / 1GB HyperX DDR 3200 / XFX GF-6600GT 128mb / Antec 330W

Profile: stranger
More Information

2.4 should be easy with a 3500+, i have a 3000+ (E6) clocked to 2.5 Ghz, stable in prime95 overnight and endless hours on BF2, CS:S, Doom3 and FEAR. Granted, I am using a Zalman heatsink, but im running at 26C idle, and 35C full load. You should be able to get more than just a 200 Mhz OC with your CPU, if not you're probably doing something wrong...what are your settings in BIOS?

Profile: stranger
More Information

Yo, I got a AMD 2600 barton with 512kb cache and I can get to 2.141gHz. The temperatures are: Idle 39C, Full Load 52C.
The danger level for CPUs are usually over 75. If you want your CPU to last longer than don't OC it.

OCYoo
<font color=blue>AMD Athlone 2600+ Barton @ 2.414gHz
ATI 9200se Celestia @ 300mHz/225mHz
512 DDR400 @ 220mHz
Asus A7V600-X @ 440mHz
120gb HDD 7200 Seagate</font color=blue>

Profile: Tom's Hardware Team
More Information

My 3200+ runs 2.4GHz. Most 3000+ will too. Given the prices, the 3000+ is probably the best "bang for the buck" in overclocking.

<font color=blue>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to a hero as big as Crashman!</font color=blue>
<font color=red>Only a place as big as the internet could be home to an ego as large as Crashman's!</font color=red>

Profile: member
More Information

I suspect your 3500+ will run 2.4 easily. My A64 3500+ is now running at 2.5GHz. I finally got around to trying out the divider. Current settings: 10x multi, 250 HTT, 4x HT, 5:6 166(DDR333)divider. This gives me a processor speed of 2.5 GHz, and a memory speed of 208, which allows my 3200 OCZ Plat2 to maintain its low latency settings (2-2-6-2). Oddly, my max temp under load is lower than before, 36 instead of 39. Maybe the Thermalright XP90's fan is running faster. But it is still quiet. Or maybe my room temp is that much lower now.

Profile: addict
More Information

Ok before I OC it... I'm running 3700+ (2.2ghz), stock HSF, idling around 31c-33c full load around 39c-42c

I'm going to start by setting a memory divider to keep my memory around 200mhz... (ocz plat)

I'm at work so I'll have to check, but anyone know what mem divider I should use when HTT set to 220 to keep memory running around 200 so I can keep timings... do they have an 11/12 mem divider? (i'm using ASUS A8N-SLI Premium)



Ok then, I'll slowly increment up until I hit 220mhz HTT (11x multiplier), and check that windows still boots stable. Is it safe to say at 220mhz FSB and a mem divider to keep mem speed lower that I should not have to up my voltage anywhere?

Then I will run 3dmark/pcmark, see if is stable, and compare my benchmark scores. I will also be checking my temperatures.

Then I will prime95 overnight to check stability.



Is it really as easy as that? Anything I'm missing or need to watch out for? This is my first time and I don't want to screw up my nice new hardware :)



A64 3700 S.Diego / Asus A8N-SLI Prm / 2GB OCZ Pltnm Pc3200 / XFX 7800GT 256mb / Antec 550W / Antec p180

A64 3000 Ven / Epox 9npa-U / 1GB HyperX DDR 3200 / XFX 6600GT 128mb / Antec 330W


Go to:
 
  Tom's Hardware Forums » Overclocking » CPUs » Is this a reasonable OC for a 3500+ Venice?

Google Ads
Ad
News

AMD Athlon 64 Venice, San Diego set sale

Published on April 21, 2005

Socket 939 editions of AMD's Athlon 64, based on core SanDiego and Venice cores could go on sale this weekend. Read more

Nvidia Quadro FX 3500 graphics standard in new Dell Precision workstation

Published on May 23, 2006

Nvidia on May 22 announced that its Nvidia Quadro FX 3500 professional graphics has been selected as the standard high-end solution in the Dell Precision 380 workstation. Read more

AMD launches Socket 939 Athlon 64 processors

Published on June 01, 2004

AMD today introduced at Computex its first Socket 939 processors: The Athlon 64 3500+ and 3800+ as well as a version of the Athlon 64 FX-53. The company also launched the Athlon 64 3700+ as final step of the Socket 754. Read more

Slight LCD Component Price Drop In Q4

Published on December 11, 2007

In contrast to the third quarter of 2007, despite the larger LCD panel component price drops in the fourth quarter of 2007, the overall decline is expected to be within a reasonable range, according to research firm WitsView Technology. Read more

Latest Reviews & Articles

Do New Drivers Really Boost Performance?

Published on October 07, 2008

How much extra performance can you get from a simple graphics driver update? And what sort of gaming gains can you expect from a high-end graphics card when you overclock your CPU? Read more

Best Video Cards For The Money: Oct '08

Published on October 06, 2008

Detailed graphics card specifications and reviews are great—that is, if you have the time to do the research. At the end of the day, what a gamer needs is the best graphics card within a certain budget, and that’s what we’re going to show you. Read more

Atom, Athlon, or Nano? Energy-Savers Compared

Published on October 03, 2008

We compared Intel’s Atom 230 and VIA’s Nano L2100 processors hoping to find the best product for low-power applications. VIA is in the vanguard of performance. Is this enough to beat Atom? Read more

Interview: Bigfoot's Killer NIC, Exposed

Published on October 02, 2008

Since its release, the Killer NIC has garnered a reputation for being an extravagant and largely unnecessary add-on for the do-it-yourselfer. Seeking additional insight, we approached the card's designer. Read more