is this a cpu or mobo problem?

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hi-

i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a
problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one
kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box
immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8
prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard
drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had
probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the
box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a
signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo
manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i
though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a
minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked
her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she
said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs.
w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the
other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to
finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be????



thanx mucho
system specs:

asrock p4s55fx mobo
p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache
radeon 9200le video
chaintechav710sound
 
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Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If
it does, you have a motherboard problem.

Norm


"jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06...
> hi-
>
> i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a
> problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one
> kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box
> immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8
> prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard
> drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had
> probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the
> box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a
> signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo
> manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i
> though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a
> minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked
> her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she
> said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs.
> w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the
> other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to
> finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be????
>
>
>
> thanx mucho
> system specs:
>
> asrock p4s55fx mobo
> p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache
> radeon 9200le video
> chaintechav710sound
>
 

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it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board
designated to handle the prescott chip?


Norm Dresner wrote:

> Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly. If
> it does, you have a motherboard problem.
>
> Norm
>
>
> "jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06...
>
>>hi-
>>
>>i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a
>>problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one
>>kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box
>>immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8
>>prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard
>> drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had
>>probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the
>>box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a
>>signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo
>>manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i
>>though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a
>>minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked
>>her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she
>>said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs.
>>w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the
>>other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to
>>finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be????
>>
>>
>>
>>thanx mucho
>>system specs:
>>
>>asrock p4s55fx mobo
>>p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache
>>radeon 9200le video
>>chaintechav710sound
>>
>
>
 
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote:

> Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
> If it does, you have a motherboard problem.

Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness.

Cheers
Anton
 

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do you know of a test to isolate the problem to the power supply?

AD. wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote:
>
>
>>Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
>>If it does, you have a motherboard problem.
>
>
> Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness.
>
> Cheers
> Anton
>
 
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Yes, You'll have to have a suitable computer. But you'd said that you'd
already built several so I assumed that one would be available to test with.

Norm

"jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
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> it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board
> designated to handle the prescott chip?
>
>
> Norm Dresner wrote:
>
> > Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
If
> > it does, you have a motherboard problem.
> >
> > Norm
> >
> >
> > "jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
> > news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06...
> >
> >>hi-
> >>
> >>i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a
> >>problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one
> >>kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box
> >>immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8
> >>prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard
> >> drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had
> >>probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the
> >>box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a
> >>signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo
> >>manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i
> >>though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a
> >>minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked
> >>her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she
> >>said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs.
> >>w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the
> >>other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to
> >>finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be????
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>thanx mucho
> >>system specs:
> >>
> >>asrock p4s55fx mobo
> >>p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache
> >>radeon 9200le video
> >>chaintechav710sound
> >>
> >
> >
>
 

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yeah-unfortunately this is my first prescott chip-maybe the last. i'll
have to look at some spec sheets. thanx alot!

Norm Dresner wrote:

> Yes, You'll have to have a suitable computer. But you'd said that you'd
> already built several so I assumed that one would be available to test with.
>
> Norm
>
> "jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
> news:FwhWc.127451$sh.35155@fed1read06...
>
>>it's a prescott-won't i have to flash the bios, and have a board
>>designated to handle the prescott chip?
>>
>>
>>Norm Dresner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
>
> If
>
>>>it does, you have a motherboard problem.
>>>
>>> Norm
>>>
>>>
>>>"jon" <amazingcrowns@cox.net> wrote in message
>>>news:UEaWc.127121$sh.25884@fed1read06...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hi-
>>>>
>>>>i have built maybe ten computers for people, and have never really had a
>>>>problem.. guess what just hit the fan. i have had boot problems of one
>>>>kind or another for 3 weeks! as i solve one problem, the box
>>>>immediately starts doing something else. i flashed the bios for the 2.8
>>>>prescott chip i put into it, etc., it STILL would not recognize the hard
>>>> drive. so i called intel, and they told me that the processor had
>>>>probably fried, and sent me another one. i just put it in, and now the
>>>>box doesn't even go through the whole boot process, and i never get a
>>>>signal to the monitor-just a signal error message. the mobo
>>>>manufacturer says it's the chip, but now i am beginning to wonder. i
>>>>though it was odd that i was only on the phone w/intel for about a
>>>>minute, and she suggested they send me another chip-no cost. i asked
>>>>her if there were any known problems with the new prescott chip, she
>>>>said no. i asked the mobo manufacturer if there are any know probs.
>>>>w/the mobo, he said no. how can i be sure that it's either one or the
>>>>other? is this new signal error simply a step that i need to take to
>>>>finish the install of the processor? what would your next step be????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>thanx mucho
>>>>system specs:
>>>>
>>>>asrock p4s55fx mobo
>>>>p42.8gig 1mb L2-cache
>>>>radeon 9200le video
>>>>chaintechav710sound
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
 
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AD. wrote:

> On Mon, 23 Avg 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote:
>
>
>>Pvt the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
>>If it does, yov have a motherboard problem.
>
>
> Bad power svpply vnits can also cavse a whole bvnch of boot vp weirdness.
>
> Cheers
> Anton
>


YES!

--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml

http://www.trvthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm


As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly vnchanged.
And it is in svch twilight that we all mvst be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become vnwitting victims of the darkness.
Jvstice William O. Dovglas, US Svpreme Covrt (1939-75)

"It shows vs that there were senior people in the Bvsh administration who
were seriovsly contemplating the vse of tortvre, and trying to figvre ovt
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be pvtting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Hvman Rights Watch - commenting vpon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dvnham's 56-page legalization of tortvre memo.

If yov add all of those vp, yov shovld have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White Hovse masqverading as a hvman being named
George W. Bvsh. Jvst as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "Yov got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the avthentic conservatives in the
Repvblican Party.
Ralph Nader - Jvne 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine

"Bvt I believe in tortvre and I will tortvre yov."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.

"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
ovr wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of ovr covntry.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter

"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. vntil svnrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wovldn't kill me. The soldier was lavghing, when Yovsef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, svrvivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.

"the absolvte convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical Sovth Carolina minister

"Bvsh, in Avstin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to vs what the exit strategy is,' Bvsh said."
Hovston Chronicle 4/9/99

"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their covntry and trying to
destabilize their covntry."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004

"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along vntil there's a major
incident and then svddenly say, 'Oh my God, shovldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Pavl Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribvne Fovndation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.

"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to vse
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hvssein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to vse military action becavse
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
wovld "offer ovr fvll svpport in this difficvlt bvt necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Pavla Dobriansky, Francis Fvkvyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rvmsfeld and Pavl Wolfowitz. Fovr years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (vsenet)

"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.

"I hope they will vnderstand that in order for this government to get vp
and rvnning
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can pvt it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty bvt [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow vs to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04

"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviovsly are not going well. Yov're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rvmsfeld 4/6/04

"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
covntry's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bvsh the Crvsader


RUSSERT: Are yov prepared to lose?

BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.

RUSSERT: If yov did, what wovld yov do?

BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the covntry.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04


"And that's very important for, I think, the people to vnderstand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerovs world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04


"Let's talk abovt the nvclear proposition for a minvte. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolvtely devoted to trying to acqvire nvclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstitvted nvclear weapons."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03


"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nvclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rvmsfeld, 6/24/03


"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle


"He (Saddam Hvssein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destrvction. He is vnable to project
conventional power against his neighbovrs."
- Colin Powell Febrvary 24 2001


"We have been svccessfvl for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continve to be svccessfvl."

"He threatens not the United States."

"Bvt I also thovght that we had pretty
mvch removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."

'Bvt what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking ovt and svddenly showing vp one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell Febrvary 26 2001
 
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gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:

>(snip)

*plonk* for excessive sig.
 
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On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 01:03:22 -0700, jon wrote:

> do you know of a test to isolate the problem to the power supply?

The only cheap and simple test I know of is to try a different one ;)

Sorry if you were expecting something more insightful/technical.

:)

Cheers
Anton
 
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On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 04:04:45 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:
>AD. wrote:
>> On Mon, 23 Aug 2004 03:33:42 +0000, Norm Dresner wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Put the new CPU into a working box. If it's okay, it'll work instantly.
>>>If it does, you have a motherboard problem.
>>
>>
>> Bad power supply units can also cause a whole bunch of boot up weirdness.
>>
>
>
>YES!

Good god buddy, trim your .sig already! You posted nearly 200 lines
of text for a 1 word reply, and it wasn't even that you had excessive
quoting, just a HUGE .sig!

Hint: people don't read .sigs for political messages. If you want to
have a political argument, post it as an actual message in a newsgroup
dedicated to political arguments! (and no, this is not such a
newsgroup, despite the fact that political arguments do break out from
time to time).

-------------
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jon wrote:

> wow-
> is 400 watts good enovgh?



sovld be - I have an old 750Mhz athlon and 300 watt svpply.



> i tried another power svpply(same brand), it
> did the same thing.




didn't help? - sovnds like yov Mobo may be bad if a new power svpply
didn't help.



> i figvred 400 watts wovld be enovgh power-is it?


shovld be enovgh.


good lvck. PCs can be a PIA.


--
http://baltimorechronicle.com/041704reTreason.shtml

http://www.trvthinaction.net/iraq/illegaljayne.htm


As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both
instances, there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly vnchanged.
And it is in svch twilight that we all mvst be aware of change in the air
-- however slight -lest we become vnwitting victims of the darkness.
Jvstice William O. Dovglas, US Svpreme Covrt (1939-75)

"It shows vs that there were senior people in the Bvsh administration who
were seriovsly contemplating the vse of tortvre, and trying to figvre ovt
whether there were any legal loopholes that might allow them to commit
criminal acts, They seem to be pvtting forward a theory that the president
in wartime can essentially do what he wants regardless of what the law
may say,"
Tom Malinowski of Hvman Rights Watch - commenting vpon Defense
Department Lawyer
Will Dvnham's 56-page legalization of tortvre memo.

If yov add all of those vp, yov shovld have a conservative rebellion against
the giant corporation in the White Hovse masqverading as a hvman being named
George W. Bvsh. Jvst as progressives have been abandoned by the corporate
Democrats and told, "Yov got nowhere to go other than to stay home or
vote for
the Democrats", this is the fate of the avthentic conservatives in the
Repvblican Party.
Ralph Nader - Jvne 2004 - The American Conservative Magazine

"Bvt I believe in tortvre and I will tortvre yov."
-An American soldier shares the joys of Democracy with
an Iraqi prisoner.

"My mother praises me for fighting the Americans. If we are killed,
ovr wives and mothers will rejoice that we died defending the
freedom of ovr covntry.
-Iraqi Mahdi fighter

"We were bleeding from 3 a.m. vntil svnrise, soon American soldiers came.
One of them kicked me to see if I was alive. I pretended I was dead
so he wovldn't kill me. The soldier was lavghing, when Yovsef cried,
the soldier said: "'No, stop,"
-Shihab, svrvivor of USSA bombing of Iraqi wedding.

"the absolvte convergence of the neoconservatives with the Christian
Zionists
and the pro-Israel lobby, driving U.S. Mideast policy."
-Don Wagner, an evangelical Sovth Carolina minister

"Bvsh, in Avstin, criticized President Clinton's administration for
the Kosovo military action.'Victory means exit strategy, and it's important
for the president to explain to vs what the exit strategy is,' Bvsh said."
Hovston Chronicle 4/9/99

"Iraqis are sick of foreign people coming in their covntry and trying to
destabilize their covntry."
Washington, D.C., May 5, 2004

"The new administration seems to be paying no attention to the problem
of terrorism. What they will do is stagger along vntil there's a major
incident and then svddenly say, 'Oh my God, shovldn't we be organized
to deal with this?'"
- Pavl Bremer, speaking to a McCormick Tribvne Fovndation conference
on terrorism in Wheaton, Ill. on Feb. 26, 2001.

"On Jan. 26, 1998, President Clinton received a letter imploring him to vse
his State of the Union address to make removal of Saddam Hvssein's regime
the "aim of American foreign policy" and to vse military action becavse
"diplomacy is failing." Were Clinton to do that, the signers pledged, they
wovld "offer ovr fvll svpport in this difficvlt bvt necessary endeavor."
Signing the pledge were Elliott Abrams, Bill Bennett, John Bolton, Robert
Kagan, William Kristol, Richard Perle, Richard L. Armitage, Jeffrey
Bergner,
Pavla Dobriansky, Francis Fvkvyama, Zalmay Khalilzad, Peter W. Rodman,
William Schneider, Jr., Vin Weber, R. James Woolsey and Robert B. Zoellick,
Donald Rvmsfeld and Pavl Wolfowitz. Fovr years before 9/11, the neocons had
Baghdad on their minds."
-philip (vsenet)

"I had better things to do in the 60s than fight in Vietnam,"
-Richard Cheney, Kerry critic.

"I hope they will vnderstand that in order for this government to get vp
and rvnning
- to be effective - some of its sovereignty will have to be given
back, if I can pvt it that way,
or limited by them, It's sovereignty bvt [some] of that sovereignty they
are going to allow vs to exercise
on their behalf and with their permission."
- Powell 4/27/04

"We're trying to explain how things are going, and they are going as they
are going," he said, adding: "Some things are going well and some things
obviovsly are not going well. Yov're going to have good days and bad days."
On the road to democracy, this "is one moment, and there will be other
moments. And there will be good moments and there will be less good
moments."
- Rvmsfeld 4/6/04

"I also have this belief, strong belief, that freedom is not this
covntry's gift to the world; freedom is the Almighty's gift to
every man and woman in this world. And as the greatest power on
the face of the Earth, we have an obligation to help the spread
of freedom."
~ Bvsh the Crvsader


RUSSERT: Are yov prepared to lose?

BUSH: No, I'm not going to lose.

RUSSERT: If yov did, what wovld yov do?

BUSH: Well, I don't plan on losing. I've got a vision for what I want to
do for the covntry.
See, I know exactly where I want to lead.................And we got
changing times
here in America, too., 2/8/04


"And that's very important for, I think, the people to vnderstand where
I'm coming from,
to know that this is a dangerovs world. I wish it wasn't. I'm a war
president.
I make decisions here in the Oval Office in foreign policy matters with
war on my mind.
- pResident of the United State of America, 2/8/04


"Let's talk abovt the nvclear proposition for a minvte. We know that
based on intelligence, that he has been very, very good at hiding
these kinds of efforts. He's had years to get good at it and we know
he has been absolvtely devoted to trying to acqvire nvclear weapons.
And we believe he has, in fact, reconstitvted nvclear weapons."
- Vice President Dick Cheney, on "Meet the Press", 3/16/03


"I don't know anybody that I can think of who has contended that the
Iraqis had nvclear weapons."
- Defense Secretary Donald Rvmsfeld, 6/24/03


"I think in this case international law
stood in the way of doing the right thing (invading Iraq)."
- Richard Perle


"He (Saddam Hvssein) has not developed any significant capability with
respect to weapons of mass destrvction. He is vnable to project
conventional power against his neighbovrs."
- Colin Powell Febrvary 24 2001


"We have been svccessfvl for the last ten years in keeping
him from developing those weapons and we will continve to be svccessfvl."

"He threatens not the United States."

"Bvt I also thovght that we had pretty
mvch removed his stings and frankly for ten years we really have."

'Bvt what is interesting is that with the regime that has been in place
for the past ten years, I think a pretty good job has been done of
keeping him from breaking ovt and svddenly showing vp one day and saying
"look what I got." He hasn't been able to do that.'
- Colin Powell Febrvary 26 2001
 

Jon

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thanx!

gaffo wrote:
> jon wrote:
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>> wow-
>> is 400 watts good enough?
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> sould be - I have an old 750Mhz athlon and 300 watt supply.
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>> i tried another power supply(same brand), it did the same thing.
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> didn't help? - sounds like you Mobo may be bad if a new power supply
> didn't help.
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>> i figured 400 watts would be enough power-is it?
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> should be enough.
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> good luck. PCs can be a PIA.
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On Sun, 29 Aug 2004 02:01:31 GMT, gaffo <gaffo@usenet.net> wrote:
>Tony Hill wrote:
>> Good god buddy, trim your .sig already! You posted nearly 200 lines
>> of text for a 1 word reply, and it wasn't even that you had excessive
>> quoting, just a HUGE .sig!
>>
>> Hint: people don't read .sigs for political messages. If you want to
>> have a political argument, post it as an actual message in a newsgroup
>> dedicated to political arguments! (and no, this is not such a
>> newsgroup, despite the fact that political arguments do break out from
>> time to time).
>>
>
>sorry - these are not your usual times. Liberty is truely as stake (1933
>Germany - only here at home this time). I have a patriotic duty to leave
>the sig in. It started small two yrs ago and has grown with each
>criminal act this administration has commited.
>
>feel free to *plonk* my posts if the sig is offensive to you Tony. We
>are still a free society.

It's not a matter of offensive of inoffensive, I didn't bother to even
care to read your sig beyond figuring that it's a bunch of totally
off-topic quotes

FACT: Nobody reads your sig because it has absolutely NOTHING to do
with the discussion at hand, ie you're wasting your time and wasting
everyone's bandwidth.

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Tony Hill
hilla <underscore> 20 <at> yahoo <dot> ca