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I have a two year old Dell 8200, basically has the i850(not sure if it
is an E or not) chipset on it, with a 82801A south bridge.

I really don't follow much in the hardware world anymore so I get to
ask dumb questions.

I was hoping to increase the graphic power of this box, it currently
has an older AGP 4x card in it.

Can this motherboard support AGP 8x? I really don't know much about
AGP. It just looks like all the cards out there on the market now are
8x cards. Can you run 8x cards at 4x?

What, on the motherboard now days has the AGP controller on it? Is it
the main chipset(i.e. my i850) I know I can't change that, just more
interested. Been many a year since I actually read up on everything and
felt I knew alot about them(i.e. Socket 7 days was the last thing I new
alot about

-grant

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> matobinder@idcomm.com <matobinder@idcomm.com> wrote:

> Can this motherboard support AGP 8x?

Might be of help.
<http://www.ati.com/support/faq/agpchart.html>

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On 23 Jan 2005 14:45:31 -0800, "matobinder@idcomm.com"
<matobinder@idcomm.com> wrote:

>I have a two year old Dell 8200, basically has the i850(not sure if it
>is an E or not) chipset on it, with a 82801A south bridge.
>
>I really don't follow much in the hardware world anymore so I get to
>ask dumb questions.
>
>I was hoping to increase the graphic power of this box, it currently
>has an older AGP 4x card in it.
>
>Can this motherboard support AGP 8x? I really don't know much about
>AGP. It just looks like all the cards out there on the market now are
>8x cards. Can you run 8x cards at 4x?
>
>What, on the motherboard now days has the AGP controller on it? Is it
>the main chipset(i.e. my i850) I know I can't change that, just more
>interested. Been many a year since I actually read up on everything and
>felt I knew alot about them(i.e. Socket 7 days was the last thing I new
>alot about

Take a look here: http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/mature/ - PDF
available if you want it... and here for more current chipsets:
http://www.intel.com/design/chipsets/linecard.htm. Neither the 850 or 850E
show AGP 8X support but....

I doubt the 8x is going to make much difference over 4x for most graphics
apps anyway. What will make a difference is a more modern graphics card
with a more powerful GPU with possibly more on-board memory; AFAIK based on
the backwards compatibility of AGP 8x/4x and statements at video card mfrs'
sites, any 8x card should work in a 4x system so you just have to decide
how much to spend and how far up the curve you want to go. For mid-range,
the nVidia 6600GT looks good to me and is available in AGP 8x(4x) form;
lower down the scale, AGP 6600(non-GT) cards have just started showing up
in retail. Obviously, be careful not to buy a PCI Express version.

Personally I've got my eye on a XFX 6600GT/128MB, which has dual DVI (plus
two included AGP adaptors) and has just been reduced in price from $225. to
$205. at NewEgg:
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] 080&depa=0

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Rgds, George Macdonald

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On Mon, 24 Jan 2005 07:46:13 -0500, George Macdonald
<fammacd=!SPAM^nothanks@tellurian.com> wrote:

>Personally I've got my eye on a XFX 6600GT/128MB, which has dual DVI (plus
>two included AGP adaptors)

Oops - slip of the acronym - VGA adaptors of course.

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Rgds, George Macdonald

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my favorite newegg reviews..
http://tinyurl.com/596x9

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I just bought this XFX 6600GT dual dvi tv-out 128mb for €221.-
I burned my old fx5200 (a nice hole in the plate!)
I tried the nvidia 6600TD (was only in PCIX) back to store...
I then got an ATI 6600 somthing... it did nothing vpu errors etc.
drivers are bad. VIA and ATI dont like eachother!
and so here i am....XFX-ed
But this one doesnt work on 8X AGP!
3Dmark shows all spiked objects and holes in textures.
Latest Nvidia 66.93 + DX9.0c noting... i have updated AGP drivers.
And everything else i could up-date/grade.

Oh at first i was going for the 6800TD (€159) or the GT (€259)
Crazy prizes btw!

I'll try some more options.
Have put the XFX on seperate powersuply (200W)
While rest of system is eating away at the 350W.
previous vid cards did work in this system at 8X AGP, so i have no
clue whats wrong!?
Do you know? then tell me please.
mail goes to the hotmail under OBIQUAKE.

power recommendations for the XFX are at least 300W but when OC-ing
better to go up to 500W.