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Dell gets first jump on Potomac/Cranford Xeon MPs - Computer Business Review
"If you are the fastest growing server maker in the world, if you don't
bash Itanium, and if you don't sell rival Opteron processors, then
apparently you do get to pre-announce the latest Xeon MP server
processors from Intel. And that is precisely what Dell did yesterday
along with top executives from Intel and database maker Oracle. "
http://www.cbronline.com/article_f [...] FF601688D8

Yousuf Khan

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On Thu, 24 Mar 2005 22:53:55 -0500, Yousuf Khan wrote:

> Dell gets first jump on Potomac/Cranford Xeon MPs - Computer Business Review
> "If you are the fastest growing server maker in the world, if you don't
> bash Itanium, and if you don't sell rival Opteron processors, then
> apparently you do get to pre-announce the latest Xeon MP server
> processors from Intel. And that is precisely what Dell did yesterday
> along with top executives from Intel and database maker Oracle. "
> http://www.cbronline.com/article_f [...] FF601688D8
>
> Yousuf Khan

After reading the article it seems that Dell is getting smacked around in
the 4 way market. Who would trust Dell to set up a grid, heaven forbid a
cluster? What makes this so special, then a white box 4 way AMD solution,
or even an IBM solution.

After looking through some of IBM's stuff, I think it will come down to
service, if a company is really looking into grid computing, then service
will be a big advantage. I also do not see these systems going head to
head with a 4 way AMD box. I still think a white box AMD 4 way solution
would be ideal, take the Sun 4 way Opteron solution found on this site,

http://store.sun.com/CMTemplate/CE [...] tid=116125

compare it to what dell wants for a current PowerEdge 6600:

http://configure.us.dell.com/dells [...] 0PAD&s=biz

this is before the service contracts, and other important items that big
companies want. Now I can see why Dell is so worried. I need to be in the
contract service business, I can see why BillG makes such remarks as
hardware should be free, and only software costs.

Gnu-Raiz

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Gnu_Raiz wrote:
> After reading the article it seems that Dell is getting smacked around in
> the 4 way market. Who would trust Dell to set up a grid, heaven forbid a
> cluster? What makes this so special, then a white box 4 way AMD solution,
> or even an IBM solution.

Plus my understanding was that most people who set up grids prefer the
2-way boxes for their economy.

Yousuf Khan