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My cousin died last night. 24 years old with a 4-year-old son.

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hah i ain't falling for this april fools day crap

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y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

oh wait.. its NOT april... why did he die?

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y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

Really sorry to hear that. My condolences.

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Reply to Auburn9698

Scammy! [/arse]

Sorry to hear that Emma. That's a damn shame. *HUGS* to the family from Scotland!

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Reply to camieabz

April?!?! You're almost 4 months off there, scamtron. That's either really cold, or you need some new ways of keeping time.

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Reply to Auburn9698

i actually really did think its april, but either way, people die. yeah its a sad thing and all, but we all die sooner or later. and... um... don't think i've had no death in the family. i have, lots too, but oh fuking well. the way i look at it is we only want that person for our selfish selves. whats so great about this word eh? NOTHING.. THEY ARE the winners, the dead ones that is.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

That's some insensitive sh|t, man.

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Reply to Auburn9698

That is a bit harsh scammie. I don't know what's happened to you lately. My cousin had a 4-year-old son who is now left without a mother or father. The father left my cousin while she was pregnant and now the mother is dead.

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Reply to melb_angel19

what?? i'm not insensitive. do you feel sorry for every life that is lost? animals included that is. the value of life is the same for me. for any creature. i hope you don't think this has something to do with my religion, it doesn't. but honestly, death is one of the best parts of life.

also, for that reason i don't kill anything i don't need to. not even bugs, but pests i do and if there were no laws holding me back, i'd prolly kill some human pests too.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

I didn't think it was harsh. But i do think you are a pussy.

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Reply to Yahiko81

why did she die??? what happened?

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

I am not a pussy, i WANT pusyy, but lets leave that out of this thread.

see how it works? i'm the guy that won't kill anything, yet i seem harsh?!?!? whats wrong with this picture man?

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

You're just to scared. I've seen you kills lots of bugs.. you murderous fiend.

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Reply to Yahiko81

My deepest condolensces. Amazing at this age, to die... And I feel so damn bad for the kid, who may not be THAT conscious to realize what happened. What his future will be like without ANY parent. Bastard father he has.

What happened?

It's when you know you got close ones you care about and they could die any minute, that you realize you better make the most out of your time. Don't take 'em for granted, go see them and enjoy it. I try that as much with my grandparents.

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Reply to eden

you mean when i'm driving? that i have no other choice so i don't care. but as far as pests go, i'd kill in no time. even if its a human. i'm not scared of death, but i hold great value for life.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

Scamtron, i believe i can speak for everyone here when i say this:




"S.T.F.U."


Mel: mi sorry to hear that. that poor child

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Reply to phial

no, you only speak for your self, or you'll have to answer for every one.

i agree that the child has done nothing to deserve this, but hey its life. whats done is done. lets just hope the best for the child. that is something you can do. being sorry only makes you sorry and doesn't do sh!t. i do what i can for those who are in need, but thats about all i can do.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

That really really sux. I too have suffered the loss of very close relatives. I have since adopted the attitude that I am thankful for the time, albeit short, that I was able to spend with my loved ones who have died in an untimely fashion. I try to remember all of the good times and try not to think about the bad. In your situation I would tell you to give some of yourself to ensure that your 4 year old cousin grows up to be an honorable, decent human being. When he's old enough tell him all about his mother. Tell him all about the good times you had with her.

Okay, brain. You don't like me, and I don't like you, but let's get through this thing and then I can continue killing you with beer. -- Homer Simpson.

Reply to Black_Cat

Do nothing man. You'll achieve more.

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Reply to camieabz

Part of death's effect on people and the recovering phases, includes the first sad moments and mourning. You are just SICK if you have someone die in front of you, that's from your family and say: " "sigh", oh well, life moves on".

I believe you thought it was a while since it happened, but Emma's gotten this shock only a day or two ago, and THAT is nothing to sneeze at. Maybe you didn't get such shock yet in your family, but I totally understand hers. She is still at a primary and "healthy/normal" stage of post-death news. Let her be, understand her. A few days later, she will see it your way unless she HAS a problem dealing with it.

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Reply to eden

sick? ok then in your words i AM a sicko.

like i said, we want others for our selves. and yeah, i know about the different stages of it and how it feels. lost my grandpa not too long ago, lost my grandma a few years ago, lost an uncle a few years before that, a cousin of mine dies in a car accident a few years ago and there might be one or two more i'm forgeting. to me, it makes no sense to get all emotional about it. if a person is dead, i'm glad for them. really, think about it... they are done. they have finished this life and are on with the next. so in reality, we only mourn for us and not them.

keep in mind, i'm not saying emma shouldn't be feeling the way she is. in fact, i have no right to do so. personally, i don't get very emotional, but i have to problem with people who do. also, even if it takes emme more than a week to get over it, i'd have no problem with it. i don't even matter to be having a problem with her and people are different. so what ever works.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

While you have your own life analogy, you understand others don't, which is good.

I also believe in life after death, but that means jack to US who still live HERE. We liked those people! We wanted to enjoy more. THAT is what we mourn. A few days later, we could say "Actually, they will finally live forever, or come back in another human's body
", which is better than right at the start.

As for emotional, can't speak for you, but from what I seen, you might be understating yourself. You're quite the kind that misses old times and like to return to that. Perhaps it's not as emotional with family, but with friends like us, you seem to share your feelings and you DO attach, don't deny SCAM!

PS: You ain't no sicko :tongue: . Shoulda explained more about your belief instead!

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Reply to eden

That really sucks. Who's gonna take care of the boy? While Scammy is being an insensitive prick I worry about the poor boy.

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Reply to dhlucke

The boy right now is who is truly affecting me above all. 4-year old without any future is a problem, if no one tries to take care of him.

BTW Scam did mention the boy is now the priority.

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Reply to eden

yeah, often i miss poeple who are alive or dead, but the passing of people doesn't really bother me. I AM the guy who busted out in tears whatching titanic... TITANIC man... thats pretty sad, but i'm not this emotionless freak i may seem to be. oh and i cried so much while i watched "where the red fern grows" and also gladiator along with many other movies. however, in real life, i tend to think i little more logically so i seem like an ass.

i know you don't think i'm a sicko and thats why i don't have a problem with you calling me one :smile:

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

dood, in all honesty, between you and i, i'm pretty sure i'd do more for that boy than you if we were given the chance to. i'm always donating to charities that help with such things and i plan on adopting a child. if the wife agrees, i plan on having one of my own and adopting another.

the thing here is that i can't do anything for that boy so there is no point in showing how much i care. it does no good. actions are good, talk is nothing.

i don't really care about the feelings of anyone, but the little boy. i thought that was clear tho. eden saw it at least.

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

Thats sad Melb, Im guessing that at 24 it must have been an accident, thats really sad, unexpected deaths are the worst, but if you have to die, then you want it to be sudden, Im sure that the family will look after the 4 yr old child, Im one way its good that they had a child, the child will carry the memory and the name of the mother on

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Reply to Loqutis

I'm really sorry to hear that Emma. My thoughts are with your family, and to the 4 year old child in particular. What will happen to the kid now?

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Reply to RobD

Part of me can see where you are coming from regarding this issue. In the army, when a colleague died, after the funeral we'd have an almighty piss up and an auction, selling off everything that he had in barracks to the highest bidder, so that we could give the money to his family and help them out in addition to their widow's pension. The day is usually a mad affair, high spirits, songs, lots of drinking etc. Helps remember the good times. That's what I choose. Always rememebr the good times. Let their memories make you smile, not cry.

On the flip side, it's really no fun watching someone die right in front of you and you are powerless to do anything about it. The pain as you see them go is truly horrible, something I would never wish on anyone, ever. I've watched it on a few occasions, and it sticks with you for the rest of your life.

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Reply to RobD

Well we are a little concerned about the child. He is with friends of the family who have had him the last few months because my cousin has had drug problems. If he is able to stay with them he will be fine but the father MIGHT get first preference. The father left my cousin when she was pregnant and he has not had ANYTHING to do with the child. We will be devestated if he gets the child.

At this point, we think it was a drug overdose but we wont know for sure until the ortopsy is done. My auntie and uncle are taking it really bad because the last words they had with her were telling her how much she had disappointed them by getting involved with drugs and not taking any responsibility for her son.

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Reply to melb_angel19

If the courts intervene, which should happen, then I would think they'd go into guardianship under your aunt and uncle. That's the most logical situation. That way, he'll be able to share memories of his mother and be close to the family, rather than with the father, who would probably just spirit him away and he wouldn't see your aunt and uncle again. Maybe your aunt and uncle can be proactive and start to take care of him now, it would help their case (and help them with the mental healing process) in the long run.

As for their last words, I know it must hurt them that they didn't part on the best of terms, but deep down, they knew she loved them and that they loved her, regardless of what was said and done. Words often mean very little in the heat of the moment, relationships last a lifetime, and more, and is the strongest bond. In time it'll be easier.

I talk bollocks at times Emma, but I'm not always an arse! As I said, my thoughts are with you and your family, especially the boy.

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Reply to RobD

yeah, i know how it feels to watch someone die as you are holding them. knowing how much pain my ____ had gone through added to the whole thing, but when he said "do with your life as you dream it" as his last word to me was even more painful. he could have been here right now if the doctors DID their JOB.

what has been done is done, but to the very last second where you still have hope, the pain is with you. and a very strong pain that is. once its over, then its done. thats all there is to it.


*i use "you", but i'm really talking about my self here*

<font color=orange><b>"x: who... the bald guy?
y: ssshhhhh!!! he might hear you
x: its ok, i'm sure he knows he's bald"

Reply to scamtrOn

It's too obvious that u r either an a$$hole or just trying to sound smart. How silly it may sound, Yes! I certainly would feel sorry even if an idiot like you die.

It doesn't have anything to do with the religion u idiot, it's just about urself and ur principles in life.

Reply to chandanarahul

I consider u spoke for me

Reply to chandanarahul

He's not an idiot and you have no fvcking clue so go stick your dick in a meat grinder.

Je bent de meest onverschillige hasj dealende hoer die ik ooit heb ontmoet.
<b><font color=green>hagedis</font color=green></b>,<b><font color=green>hagedis</font color=green></b>
Svol heeft een reusachtige worst

Reply to Yahiko81

Well! thanks for the advice.
Now I see where you got all ur inteligence.

Reply to chandanarahul

It doesn't matter what you think. It's just a stupid internet board anyways. Just keep remembering that everyon is an idiot.

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Reply to Yahiko81

may be everyone is an idiot one time or the other. but only few people can manage to be an idiot all the time. Hope u r not one of those.

Reply to chandanarahul

I don't think you've been around these boards long enough to adequately judge people, but your opinion is your opinion.

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Reply to Yahiko81

My deep condolences. It's really shocking to see close relatives dying at such a young age.

I'm curious like everyone to know the reason of death.

What will happen to the boy?

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Reply to Spitfire_x86

He's not being smart, he's merely expressing his opinion on the subject and explaining how he deals with the issue. Some of us can see where he's coming from, you obviously can't, but that's no reason to lay into him and abuse him.

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Reply to RobD

Quote :

that's no reason to lay into him and abuse him.


Yes.

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Reply to jaythaman

I'm really sorry about the bad news. Everyone obviously worries for the kid. :frown:
My best friend had something similar happen to him except he was 14 at the time and his father is still a prick. He had to let go of everything.

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Reply to jaythaman

Is that really so? Do u think I am so blinded and not even see what he was talking about? Do u really think all the sad incidents in ones life give him/her or even me and you a right to be sarcastic or funny when someone's in grief? That's the worst thing u can do. Opinions never hurt but sarcasm does. One more thing is that it was my response to his first reply not to what he wrote later.

I really hate to argue and love to drop this discussion here and u may feel free to think any which way u want.

Reply to chandanarahul

Anything that does not concur with one's own views seems wrong to everyone, it's human nature and you need to learn that.

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Reply to jaythaman

I think you could all take your ethical discussion somewhere else. It's in the poorest taste.

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Reply to camieabz

agree

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Reply to phial

Scammy was just being Scammy. Most people in here know what he's like and accept it (not that he's deranged or anything), but I still don't see why you had to rag on him. Even if you were commenting on his first post, which you should have made clear in the first place, if you read the rest of his posts he talks about the subject and his beliefs in depth.

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Reply to RobD

Emma, I am sorry for your loss - and the loss of your nephew's mother.

I will say that this thread has revealed a lot about several people who post here - and I am disappointed in what I've read.



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