This is fvcking ridiculous!

Oh man that sucks. Aren't you like 15 or something? Just wait till your my age, 17, than things are better cuz whenever I'm pissed, I just drive to a friend's house. Are you getting your own car?

"not allowed to run cause I may break my leg again or get hit by a car"

---I remember you talking about running. I do Cross Country and Track. What are your best times:
-1 mile?
-3.1 miles?

Ideas? Simply plan a really good arguement and have it with them. In my experience, educational and calm arguements usually win vs. yelling.



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You could try talking calmly with your parents.
Yelling and swearing at them will make them defensive and less likely allow you explore your freedom.
When you ask to do something and they don't let you do what you want ask them why. Try to understand their point of view. Eventually you will earn their trust and respect. You will gain your freedom and be able to do what you want when you want to.
Until that happens you will have to make compromises with your parents. You will get some of the freedom you want just by being polite and reasonable with your parents.
Don't think of your compromise as a concession. Think of it as manipulation. It will make you feel better.
If you want to learn a few tricks. Watch the movie 'Ferris Bueller's Day Off'.

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I do ask why, they say because you'll hurt yourself. Every time. What concerns me and pisses me off is that this thing has happened suddenly, ie in the last 2 weeks they became like this. Before, aside from not letting me drive, everything else was fine.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

Don't get offended over what I say but the way I look at it, is you've earned it by yourself, this reaction (parents being strict). You ARE wild. If I could count the times you've talked about risky situations you've undertook or simply things your parents disapprove of doing, it's fairly obvious you had it coming.

Even at work you proved to not be serious, when you did that prank. Parents at work, are serious, face it. You, are still 16 with a kid's mind. It just ain't gonna work yer way and they will continue wanting to piss ya off simply because your risky way of doing things, and wild, is NOT their cup of tea. Most likely they expect differently from their "intelligent little boy".

The only way things will change is if you start a slow different home attitude (that includes them not hearing about what you did outside), calm, funny and smiley. No pranks, nothing. Take it this way, it's a slow recovery, but I am pretty sure the parents will feel different, as they would suddenly be under the assumption that you "matured their way".
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Actually, yeah, my dad is upset that I am working cause he thinks it's a waste of time (funny how I learned more in a week than an year of entire ap comp sci class at work...). I don't think they think I'm doing drugs or drinking, my dad has offered me beer or a drink at coporate parties and I have refused it, so I doubt that. Drugs I don't think so either, I mean all my good friends are against drugs, so am I.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

No, I am not talking about wild as in rambunctious or rebellious, gone for drugs and drinking. I am simply talking from the POV they employ, which I am betting is a conservative POV. And because of that, they will see you as simply doing too much risky stuff or wild-child stuff. And NOT rebellious. I am sure they trust you don't do drugs or drink.
It's so often that those who do, have parents who don't doubt anything about their child and believe everything he tells them. That child is likely to be a drug-dealer drinker.

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Out of curiosity, what do ur parents see u as? Do you spend most of your time on the comp so they don't worry or are they constantly annoying you cause you forgot to call?

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

The only way to be treated as an adult is to act like one. So next time don't yell, scream, and throw a fit. Kids do that. That alone will make them listen since it'll probably surprise them. After they've started listening you can present a logical argument in favor of what you want.

In the end you probably won't get to do everything you want, but hey...you're only 15. We all lived through it and so will you.

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They are too often proud of my achievements at school and have always viewed me as the most mature in the family. Yeah that's a bit of high statement by me, but I get to say this as it's true mostly. Not to mention being the first born child on my dad's family side so I often was the big show.

They trust me very well. However my mom is a typical Marie Barone mom, she worries all the time about me, she calls from work to tell us how to eat the food she cooked, or to make sure we cleaned the house or have made our beds, etc.
Nonetheless, while she worries sometimes, never do they prohibit it. Once my dad got extremely angry at me for buying tickets to the Avril show, and asked me over the phone (he works and lives in Montreal and comes here in the weekends) to go online and cancel them. I said no. The weekend went well, he got over his anger, and when the concert came, he gladly did everything and even bought us fast food and made sure our 3-4 hour wait outside in line went well.

I may have occasionally strict parents, however I am free in the majority of the time and they trust me a lot. They let me buy what I want EVEN when they disapprove too much. They always say stuff like "that's way too expensive, damn". They encourage me to work contrary to you, because of our monetary state being 10 times worse than yours. So they like it when we can pay for our goods.

So, in a not so nutshell, I summed up for you how my parents treat me. I don't feel at all the need to rebel.

What do you mean?
Yes if someone called and they weren't here, I often forget and they get angry, but they get over it pretty fast!

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I'm not going to bother judging his personality. I was a lunatic at his age and am in no position to say anything.

However, parents will not treat their children like adults until they demonstrate that they are one. Flamey needs to consistantly show that he is close enough to an adult for them to treat him as one. A young adult in his case. Throwing fits and disobeying their wishes is not a good idea with parents. That's why he's being treated as a kid. At least that's what I think.

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Hey, it usually happens like I start logically talking to em, then my dad gets pissed, and we all start yelling. BTW, guy, haven't been 15 for months now.... I just want that damn bench since I need to start working out again, track will be pointless otherwise when I have to spend a season just getting back into shape.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

I think we are getting to the heart of the matter. Yesterday after some animated discussing, it became even more animated over my quantum computing project. What happened is over the year I completed a big thing with a algorithm, and now my mentor wants me to estimate some constants but I think it's really bullsh!t work cause it doesn't matter much at all. Anyway, my dad and I debated over this, and we established that I will continue with quantum since I am so far ahead into it already (this is for Intel science talent search btw) and we shall look around for a few variations on phase estimation rather than the constant estimation, though I may still do it just as a bs activity. Anyway, I have to go sign up for my permit now sometime and today when I sprinted down to the train cause I was late, and explained that I had noticed a bump on my face and needed to take care of it, my dad said fine. Hoping things chill down. Now we shall see about the weight bench......

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

Yep, I have. Sadly I don't subscribe to any newspapers aside from NYTimes (no way in hell they're going to have me in there hehe), so people have told me they have seen me in multiple newspapers, but I only have 1 newspaper with me in it.

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

How so?

All the things I really like to do are either illegal, immoral, or fattening.

Actually I was wondering what the heck was the contest and newspaper where you were in there and got all that attention?

Just curious, if you don't want to say, I'm ok wid dat.



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Heheh, prolly with the coupon pages.

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Word of advice--Edit your post to read: "I don't care what you think."

Seriously Flame...what are you trying to prove to us?

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None of these have any database records on the contest pages for the contest websites?

Is there ANYTHING about you possibly found or "recognized" for your achievements that can be found in a more global database? I'd assume something like Intel's contests would be somewhere listing winners. Just wanting some credibility proof of recognition.

That might sound like me asking "PROVE IT", but it's more or less that.

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I have a certificate that says my name is going to Mars.

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I have one too. It says I have been certified mentally retarded.

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Err ok, though I don't see what the heck is wrong with me only seeing it.


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Close enough. From now on you'll be the forum asian.

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