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Anonymous
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June 14, 2004 11:26:54 PM

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Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?

On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?

All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.

Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.

All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
(Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).

Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
Please help me.

Linda Donovan
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 3:24:34 AM

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Linda Donovan wrote:

> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.

I don't think you're going to find a hardware device made for the purpose of
converting AVI to MPEG2. That's normally done with software and the
software works fine.

It sounds like you'e looking for a device that takes an analog input and
captures direct to MPEG2. If that's what you're looking for then the
Hauppauge PVR-250 would be your best bet I think. However be aware that it
is MPEG2-only, it cannot be made to capture uncompressed video--the chip it
uses has compressed output only.

If you need an external box, rather than a board then take a look at the
WinTV-PVR-USB2.

> Linda Donovan

--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 3:24:35 AM

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"J. Clarke" <jclarke@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
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> Linda Donovan wrote:
>
> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
> >
> > On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> > is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> > my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> > and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
> >
> > All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> > into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> > MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
> >
> > Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> > to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
> >
> > All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> > (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> > create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
> >
> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> > Please help me.
>
> I don't think you're going to find a hardware device made for the purpose
of
> converting AVI to MPEG2. That's normally done with software and the
> software works fine.
>
> It sounds like you'e looking for a device that takes an analog input and
> captures direct to MPEG2. If that's what you're looking for then the
> Hauppauge PVR-250 would be your best bet I think. However be aware that
it
> is MPEG2-only, it cannot be made to capture uncompressed video--the chip
it


DV is compressed.
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June 15, 2004 6:31:45 AM

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"Linda Donovan" <linda1582001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan

this is really easy

can you connect your camera to your computer with a firewire cable?
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 7:02:24 AM

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> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan

I am not a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding, so I hate to say
this... the Hauppauge PVR cards can be picked up for a lot less than $300,
typically from $100-200 depending on the model, and they produce an...
uuurrrggg... acceptabe quality MPEG2 encode you can burn straight to DVD.
June 15, 2004 8:11:03 AM

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"Linda Donovan" <linda1582001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan

If you have a digital video camera it should be able to output via Firewire
or i.Link or IEEE 1394. Then you can transfer from your camera to your PC
via a Firewire or i.Link or IEEE 1394 cable ($20 to $30) with free software
such as WinDV or Microsoft Movie Maker (Do you have an XP system?). That
will leave you with an AVI file. Assuming you have a firewire card in your
PC, if not you need one ($20 to $30). Now you need to determine if you want
to edit that file or just make a DVD. The DVD authoring program will take
the AVI file and burn it to DVD.

Here's the Sonic my DVD and Power DVD sites:
http://estore.sonic.com/enu/mydvd/mydvd5.asp?lang=enu
http://www.gocyberlink.com/english/products/product_mai...

There is plenty of software and many opinions. Power DVD has a free trial
download, I'm not sure about Sonic.

I would not reccomend trying to use USB

Rich
June 15, 2004 10:52:44 AM

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In article <9b5f3f18.0406141826.2537f290@posting.google.com>, linda1582001@yahoo.com (Linda Donovan) wrote:
>Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
>On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
>is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
>my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
>and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
>All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
>into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
>MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
>Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
>to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
>All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>(Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
>Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
>Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan

http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID...
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 10:52:45 AM

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"> > Linda Donovan
>
> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID...

This is absolutely the LAST thing she wants to look at!! It has no DV
input, is USB2 and flakey. Avoid Pinnacle and Dazzle.
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 3:11:35 PM

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> > http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID...
>
> This is absolutely the LAST thing she wants to look at!! It has no DV
> input, is USB2 and flakey. Avoid Pinnacle and Dazzle.

I second that. Pinnacle and Dazzle products should be banned from store
shelves.
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 4:27:41 PM

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"Linda Donovan" <linda1582001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9b5f3f18.0406141826.2537f290@posting.google.com...
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan
There is an external box available which takes analog video (S-Video, or RCA
connectors), connects to USB2 and produces MPEG2 files or burns directly
DVD. It also includes software to edit (cut, add titles, author) the MPEG2
files.
It is AverMedia's EZ-DVD Maker USB2 and costs about $50. If USB2 is not in
the PC a card can be bought for about $8.
Fred
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 7:02:17 PM

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"Adam H" <dfghjkl@fghjkl.ur> wrote in message
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> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
> >
> > On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> > is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> > my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> > and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
> >
> > All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> > into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> > MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
> >
> > Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> > to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
> >
> > All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> > (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> > create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
> >
> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> > Please help me.
> >
> > Linda Donovan
>
> I am not a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding, so I hate to say
> this... the Hauppauge PVR cards can be picked up for a lot less than $300,
> typically from $100-200 depending on the model, and they produce an...
> uuurrrggg... acceptabe quality MPEG2 encode you can burn straight to DVD.
>


I AM a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding. Unfortunately
the OP also wants to "capture" and convert Digital Video, I know of no
card or box that will do hardware MPEG encoding from both an analog
and a digital source (at the consumer level at least).

For the analog captures any Philips A/D and Broadcom Encoder
based card or box, like the older (not now in production) Adaptec
VideOh! AVC-2000 or the Snazzi Bali III (early ones used that chipset);
can produce excellent results, with Movie Mill software.
(the Broadcom Chip is the one used in the Series 2 Tivo units)

There are settop DVR DVD recorders that will input both analog
and DV. In terms of ease of use that may be your best bet. The
main drawback is that they lack editing capability ( at least those
I've seen), certainly the ones without a hard drive (those closest to
your $300) couldn't provide any editing capability.

Luck;
Ken
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 7:02:18 PM

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> I AM a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding. Unfortunately
> the OP also wants to "capture" and convert Digital Video, I know of no
> card or box that will do hardware MPEG encoding from both an analog
> and a digital source (at the consumer level at least).


The new Matrox hardware will, I believe. For discount it is $900, however,
and retails for around $1,200.
Anonymous
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June 15, 2004 8:59:45 PM

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> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?

www.snazzi.com is one of many places where you can find such.

> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?

www.dvdrhelp.com has lots of info on this.

The =easiest= way is to simply buy a <$300 DVD recorder deck, put that
on the TV, hook up camcorder, and press record. Simple as that, no PC
required, and it works great for all analog input sources.

Lots of choices here on amazon.com:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/browse/-/1036920/r...

---

Another way is to buy a cheap DV/Digital8 Camcorder with analog
pass-through to DV cheap off ebay.com and elsewhere & a <$20 firewire
PCI card for the PC. Many such sales at Fry's Electronics and other
places can get you one in this <$300 price range.

The advantage? They let you convert any analog source to DV format,
which can easily be converted by the software included with your Yamaha
DVD burner (usually MyDVD or similar) to a DVD. =And=, you can use the
newer digital format for future recordings that are already
ready-for-conversion and use on the PC in the standard DV digital video
format. Digital8 is nice because it will play your 8mm tapes, too.

(Hmmm, must be a really new DVD burner - which model? Don't see any
under their listing on the website...)

---

Another way is to get any of the encoding boxes (by Snazzi, ADS, etc.),
transfer the camcorder video to MPEG-2 (or DV) format on the PC, then
burn the video file to DVD with the usual lot of DVD creation software
(almost all of them will take both MPEG-2 and DV formats and make a DVD
from that).

Some of these boxes, like the Plextor ConvertX boxes don't need a
Firewire card, just the standard USB 2.0 port on most PCs, eliminating
the need to buy more hardware.

These Plextor ConvertX boxes also give you the advantage of converting
directly to MPEG-4 (commonly the DIVX subset) format, besides MPEG-1/MPEG-2!

What's the advantage of MPEG-4?

1) You can burn them to cheaper CD discs. (Often free after rebate
when on sale; see www.fatwallet.com/forums/ -> hot deals -> search for
these)

2) You can play them on the latest DIVX/MPEG-4 compatible DVD players
on your TV easily as well as on PCs. (eg. a great one is the Philips
DVP642 DVD/DIVX/SVCD/VCD/MP3/JPEG/CD player selling for $69 at Walmart
and Amazon.com - open tray, 7 8 9 OK 0, close tray for all region code
playback; no m.vision at all)

3) You require far less storage space to save these videos on disc or
hard drive.

4) For most viewers, about the same visual quality on TVs when played
back vs. DVDs when files are properly encoded.

---

Another way. Any analog TV tuner card with analog input eg. WinTV or ATI
All-In-Wonder cards for the PC. You feed video into the card, video
goes to MPEG-2/DV files on the HD, which then can be burned to DVD. The
older models, eg. ATI AIW 128, go for <$30; the newer ones about $100 or
so for the cheap models.

---

lots of other ways, see www.dvdrhelp.com


-------------------------------

The simplest? If you don't want to hassle, simply get the DVD recorder
deck, plug camcorder in, insert disc, and press record. No PC required,
and simply enough that anyone can use it in minutes flat. The time you
spend getting the other options running will far exceed the few minutes
you spend attaching cables and AC on a DVD recorder deck.

(ie. in 10 minutes, you can go from box to TV top to everything's
hooked up and recording the very first tape with a DVD recorder. The
other methods? You'll barely be finished reading the first chapter of
the setup manual.)

After that? Plextor ConvertX is a good choice. The PX-M402U converts
to all popular formats (MPEG-1, MPEG-2, MPEG-4/Divx) live, requires only
the standard USB 2.0 port found on most modern PCs, and is easy to
use, with all the software you need to edit and burn the videos to disc.
Anonymous
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June 16, 2004 1:19:15 AM

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On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:02:17 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
<kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:

>
>"Adam H" <dfghjkl@fghjkl.ur> wrote in message
>news:calos0$b69$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>> >
>> > On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
>> > is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
>> > my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
>> > and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>> >
>> > All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
>> > into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
>> > MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>> >
>> > Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
>> > to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>> >
>> > All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>> > (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>> > create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>> >
>> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
>> > Please help me.
>> >
>> > Linda Donovan
>>
>> I am not a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding, so I hate to say
>> this... the Hauppauge PVR cards can be picked up for a lot less than $300,
>> typically from $100-200 depending on the model, and they produce an...
>> uuurrrggg... acceptabe quality MPEG2 encode you can burn straight to DVD.
>>
>
>
> I AM a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding. Unfortunately
>the OP also wants to "capture" and convert Digital Video, I know of no
>card or box that will do hardware MPEG encoding from both an analog
>and a digital source (at the consumer level at least).
>
> For the analog captures any Philips A/D and Broadcom Encoder
>based card or box, like the older (not now in production) Adaptec
>VideOh! AVC-2000 or the Snazzi Bali III (early ones used that chipset);
>can produce excellent results, with Movie Mill software.
> (the Broadcom Chip is the one used in the Series 2 Tivo units)
>
> There are settop DVR DVD recorders that will input both analog
>and DV. In terms of ease of use that may be your best bet. The
>main drawback is that they lack editing capability ( at least those
>I've seen), certainly the ones without a hard drive (those closest to
>your $300) couldn't provide any editing capability.

"Any editing" is a perhaps a too general statement.
There are +RW recorders that can trim a recording and remove (hide)
parts and add chapter points with the same presision as can be done
with an authoring program like TMPGEnc DVD Author. That is they both
cut with a resolution of a GOP which is like 10 frames or so.
I find it useful, although not perfect.
/Jan
Anonymous
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June 16, 2004 1:19:16 AM

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"Jan B" <nospam@nospam.se> wrote in message news:40cf6588.2838593@wingate...
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 15:02:17 -0500, "Ken Maltby"
> <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
<snip>
> >
> > There are settop DVR DVD recorders that will input both analog
> >and DV. In terms of ease of use that may be your best bet. The
> >main drawback is that they lack editing capability ( at least those
> >I've seen), certainly the ones without a hard drive (those closest to
> >your $300) couldn't provide any editing capability.
>
> "Any editing" is a perhaps a too general statement.
> There are +RW recorders that can trim a recording and remove (hide)
> parts and add chapter points with the same presision as can be done
> with an authoring program like TMPGEnc DVD Author. That is they both
> cut with a resolution of a GOP which is like 10 frames or so.
> I find it useful, although not perfect.
> /Jan

Good to hear, and I hope they keep adding to that
capability. Even without editing the OP's goals might be
met. The standalone DVR makes utmost since for copying
VCR movies, where you want the whole thing as it is. ( The
only problem might be with the VCR version of Macrovision.
That can be defeated if necessary with a add-on device.)

Do you know if the combo DVD/VCR machines enable the
Macrovision both ways, I am pretty sure they do from DVD to
VCR, but wonder about from VCR to DVD?

Luck;
Ken
Anonymous
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June 16, 2004 2:08:01 AM

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I bought a Pinnacle video capture card, bundled with Pinnacle studio 8 movie
software, and never did get it to work (I didn't try it out until about 3
months after I bought it, so I couldn't return it...), and tech support was
nonexistant.
Anyway, after researching a little bit harder, I bought a Plextor ConvertX
PX-M401U external digital video converter (I think it was between $150 &
$200 through amazon.com). I connect with USB 2, but it's done an excellent
job. I had several home movies of the kids I wanted to make DVD's of, and
this worked to a tee. I would recommend it 100%.
Oh, and Pinnacle studio 8 didn't want to work with the Plextor unit, so I
used WinDVD Creator 2, which worked fine.


"Linda Donovan" <linda1582001@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>
> On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>
> All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
> into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
> MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>
> Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
> to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>
> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
> Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
> Please help me.
>
> Linda Donovan
June 16, 2004 3:15:59 AM

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On 14 Jun 2004 19:26:54 -0700, linda1582001@yahoo.com (Linda Donovan)
wrote:

>All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>(Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).

I have the Pinnacle Moviebox product. It will do MPEG file creation,
you just have to activate the feature. Activation is free. And,
might I add, works great...
June 16, 2004 3:18:10 AM

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On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 23:55:21 -0700, "luminos" <logos1@trip.net> wrote:

>
>"> > Linda Donovan
>>
>> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/ProductPage_n.asp?Product_ID...
>
>This is absolutely the LAST thing she wants to look at!! It has no DV
>input, is USB2 and flakey. Avoid Pinnacle and Dazzle.
>
>

I'll agree with you on the Dazzle product, but the Moviebox Deluxe
product has worked very well for me and I would recommend that to
someone.

The only reason I tell people to avoid Pinnacle products is because if
they *don't* work, you're screwed - Pinnacle tech support is a
complete joke...
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 16, 2004 7:34:34 PM

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I'd pick plextor instead of the dazzle & pinnacle products, IMO, too.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2004 5:26:27 AM

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Go to www.Snazzi.com, they have lots of products that will fulfill this
need. I had purchased Snazzi III DVD Movie Mill about 1 1/2 years ago, and
it captured very good quality video, when it worked. The problem with the
card is the drivers and software were very buggy.


"Ken Maltby" <kmaltby@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Adam H" <dfghjkl@fghjkl.ur> wrote in message
> news:calos0$b69$1@sparta.btinternet.com...
>> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter for $300?
>> >
>> > On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
>> > is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
>> > my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
>> > and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?
>> >
>> > All I want is to play from the VHS deck or camcorder and hook
>> > into this hardware thingey which would then output streaming
>> > MPEG-2 audio/video digital compressed files suitable for DVD.
>> >
>> > Once I have MPEG2, I think I can figure out how to save it
>> > to my ThinkPad disk to then burn on to my new Yamaha DVD burner.
>> >
>> > All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>> > (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>> > create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>> >
>> > Where can I find an AVI-to-MPEG2 hardware converter?
>> > Please help me.
>> >
>> > Linda Donovan
>>
>> I am not a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding, so I hate to say
>> this... the Hauppauge PVR cards can be picked up for a lot less than
>> $300,
>> typically from $100-200 depending on the model, and they produce an...
>> uuurrrggg... acceptabe quality MPEG2 encode you can burn straight to DVD.
>>
>
>
> I AM a big fan of consumer hardware MPEG2 encoding. Unfortunately
> the OP also wants to "capture" and convert Digital Video, I know of no
> card or box that will do hardware MPEG encoding from both an analog
> and a digital source (at the consumer level at least).
>
> For the analog captures any Philips A/D and Broadcom Encoder
> based card or box, like the older (not now in production) Adaptec
> VideOh! AVC-2000 or the Snazzi Bali III (early ones used that chipset);
> can produce excellent results, with Movie Mill software.
> (the Broadcom Chip is the one used in the Series 2 Tivo units)
>
> There are settop DVR DVD recorders that will input both analog
> and DV. In terms of ease of use that may be your best bet. The
> main drawback is that they lack editing capability ( at least those
> I've seen), certainly the ones without a hard drive (those closest to
> your $300) couldn't provide any editing capability.
>
> Luck;
> Ken
>
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 18, 2004 5:33:15 PM

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glenzabr@xmission.com (GMAN) writes:
> >On the consumer (not commercial side) say under 300 dollars,
> >is there a hardware conversion box existing that I can connect
> >my 8 mm camcorder & digital (USB DV in/out whatever that means)
> >and VHS tapes (so I can convert my entire collection to DVD)?

I saw an HP USB2 DVD external burner in the store yesterday for
$299.95. It was DVD+R/RW only, but it had an analog input so you
could simply plug your camcorder into it and make DVD's by playing
back the tapes, no computer needed.

There are also consumer set-top DVD recorders that cost a bit more,
that are just like VHS VCR's except they burn DVD's instead. Again,
just play your camcorder tape into the analog input.

For 8mm, I'd think this is about as good as you can hope for. For DV,
yeah, there's probably some quality loss from the analog steps.
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 20, 2004 6:02:24 AM

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You might want to look at the ADS technology hardware, especially if
your computer supports USB 2.


On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:15:59 -0700, "daorriss@comcast.nospamforme.net"
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

>On 14 Jun 2004 19:26:54 -0700, linda1582001@yahoo.com (Linda Donovan)
>wrote:
>
>>All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>>(Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>>create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>
>I have the Pinnacle Moviebox product. It will do MPEG file creation,
>you just have to activate the feature. Activation is free. And,
>might I add, works great...
>
Anonymous
a b U Graphics card
June 20, 2004 10:26:38 AM

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Works fine even with USB 1.1, if you don't mind a 4 Mbps max video rate.
(And I sure don't mind).

Donald Link wrote:
> You might want to look at the ADS technology hardware, especially if
> your computer supports USB 2.
>
>
> On Tue, 15 Jun 2004 23:15:59 -0700, "daorriss@comcast.nospamforme.net"
> <me@privacy.net> wrote:
>
>> On 14 Jun 2004 19:26:54 -0700, linda1582001@yahoo.com (Linda Donovan)
>> wrote:
>>
>>> All the boxes I looked at so far at Good Guys & Best Buys
>>> (Pinnacle Studio MovieBox DV, Avermedia DV, etc) seem to
>>> create AVI files (but I want the hardware to create MPG2).
>>
>> I have the Pinnacle Moviebox product. It will do MPEG file creation,
>> you just have to activate the feature. Activation is free. And,
>> might I add, works great...
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