GW Power Supply Feedback

Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say
it will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I
really do need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the
Country Store to get is the way I want it and that is why the Country
Store said it was a good thing that I got that power supply because of
what I have configured in my system.

Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
8 kilobyte primary memory cache
256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
Installed Memory
Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB

Network Drives

Printers
Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001

Controllers Display
Standard floppy disk controller
Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display adapter]
RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
Bus Adapters Multimedia
WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
Live! Series (WDM)
Creative SBLive! Gameport
Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
Communications Other Devices
GTW V.92 Voicemodem
1394 Net Adapter
RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
Controller
HID UPS Battery
American Power Conversion USB UPS
Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
General Purpose USB Hub
USB Root Hub
USB Root Hub
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early ones
    are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.

    "RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say it
    >will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really do
    >need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store to
    >get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was a
    >good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have configured
    >in my system.
    >
    > Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    > System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    > Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    > 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    > 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    > Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    > Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    > BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    > TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    > TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    > 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    > Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    > Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    > WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    > Installed Memory
    > Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    > Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    > Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    > Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >
    > Network Drives
    >
    > Printers
    > Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    > hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >
    > Controllers Display
    > Standard floppy disk controller
    > Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    > Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    > Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display adapter]
    > RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    > Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    > Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    > Bus Adapters Multimedia
    > WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    > Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    > Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    > Live! Series (WDM)
    > Creative SBLive! Gameport
    > Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    > Communications Other Devices
    > GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    > 1394 Net Adapter
    > RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    > Controller
    > HID UPS Battery
    > American Power Conversion USB UPS
    > Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    > Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    > Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    > General Purpose USB Hub
    > USB Root Hub
    > USB Root Hub
  2. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power supply is
    OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and dirt
    inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers

    On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early ones
    >are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >
    >"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say it
    >>will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really do
    >>need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store to
    >>get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was a
    >>good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have configured
    >>in my system.
    >>
    >> Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >> System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >> Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >> 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >> Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >> BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >> TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >> TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >> Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >> Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >> WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >> Installed Memory
    >> Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >> Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >> Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >> Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>
    >> Network Drives
    >>
    >> Printers
    >> Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >> hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>
    >> Controllers Display
    >> Standard floppy disk controller
    >> Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display adapter]
    >> RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >> Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >> WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >> Live! Series (WDM)
    >> Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >> Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >> Communications Other Devices
    >> GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >> 1394 Net Adapter
    >> RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >> Controller
    >> HID UPS Battery
    >> American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >> Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >> Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >> General Purpose USB Hub
    >> USB Root Hub
    >> USB Root Hub
    >
    >
  3. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    My concern was this:

    That if I take the 6500703 that my front USB and Firewire will no longer
    function as you read the H Auxiliary Power Connector.

    Thanks,
    Ron

    On the 6500583 it says: The P10 power connector is a 6-pin auxiliary
    power connector that also connects only to motherboards that support
    Pentium IV. It plugs next to the P1 power connector to form an L-shape
    on the motherboard.

    H - Auxiliary Power Connector

    The six-pin connector on the left is the motherboard auxiliary power
    connector. This auxiliary power connector accepts a power lead from the
    power supply. This auxiliary power connector supplies additional current
    for the front panel USB and is required for proper operation of the
    motherboard.

    The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary
    power connector.

    Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug
    the power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds
    maximum). There is more available current supplied to this motherboard
    than others. Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot
    spots on the motherboard and the component you were working with.

    On the 6500703 is says: The P9 power connector is a 4-pin auxiliary
    power connector that connects only to motherboards that support Pentium IV.

    The P1 power connector that leads from the computer's power supply plugs
    into the power supply connection on the motherboard. Although Pin 1 is
    marked on the motherboard, match the clip on the connector to the notch
    on the motherboard power supply connection. The clip is on the backside
    of the connector. On the graphic, click the hyperlink for more information.

    B - Auxiliary ATX Power

    This is a closer view of the ATX auxiliary power on the motherboard.
    This 2 × 2 power connector accepts a power lead from the power supply.
    This auxiliary power connector supplies additional 12-volt service for
    the processor and is required for proper operation of the motherboard.
    The clip on the ATX power connector faces toward the front of the
    motherboard.

    The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary
    power connector.

    Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug
    the power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds
    maximum). There is more available current supplied to this motherboard
    than others. Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot
    spots on the motherboard and the component you were working with.


    Ben Myers wrote:

    > Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power supply is
    > OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and dirt
    > inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >
    >>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early ones
    >>are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>
    >>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>
    >>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say it
    >>>will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really do
    >>>need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store to
    >>>get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was a
    >>>good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have configured
    >>>in my system.
    >>>
    >>>Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>>System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>>Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>>8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>>256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>>Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>>Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>>BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>>TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>>Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>>Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>>WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>>Installed Memory
    >>>Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>>Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>>Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>>Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>
    >>> Network Drives
    >>>
    >>>Printers
    >>>Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>>hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>
    >>>Controllers Display
    >>>Standard floppy disk controller
    >>>Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>>Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>>Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display adapter]
    >>>RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>>WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >>>Live! Series (WDM)
    >>>Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>>Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>>Communications Other Devices
    >>>GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>>1394 Net Adapter
    >>>RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>>Controller
    >>>HID UPS Battery
    >>>American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>>Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>>Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>>Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>>General Purpose USB Hub
    >>>USB Root Hub
    >>>USB Root Hub
    >>
    >>
    >
  4. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    That's what I meant by refurb, cleaned and tested.

    <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
    news:4176e130.25483980@news.charter.net...
    > Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power
    > supply is
    > OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and
    > dirt
    > inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >
    > On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early ones
    >>are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>
    >>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say
    >>>it
    >>>will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really do
    >>>need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store to
    >>>get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was a
    >>>good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have configured
    >>>in my system.
    >>>
    >>> Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>> System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>> Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>> 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>> Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>> BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>> TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>> TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>> Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>> Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>> WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>> Installed Memory
    >>> Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>> Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>> Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>> Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>
    >>> Network Drives
    >>>
    >>> Printers
    >>> Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>> hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>
    >>> Controllers Display
    >>> Standard floppy disk controller
    >>> Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display
    >>> adapter]
    >>> RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>> Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>> WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >>> Live! Series (WDM)
    >>> Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>> Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>> Communications Other Devices
    >>> GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>> 1394 Net Adapter
    >>> RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>> Controller
    >>> HID UPS Battery
    >>> American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>> Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>> Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>> General Purpose USB Hub
    >>> USB Root Hub
    >>> USB Root Hub
    >>
    >>
    >
  5. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    If you have the Gateway mainboard that takes RDRAM, there should be three
    power supply connectors on the mainboard, the main ATX, the six pin near the
    ATX (basically half an AT connector), and the four pin near the cpu. If your
    machine has a separate firewire connection on a PCI card, it usually has a
    four pin power connector on it also. One of the smaller 'floppy' power
    connectors should connect to this. Is the 6500703 missing the six pin plug
    that connects near the ATX connector? According to the info on Gateway's
    site, both power supplies have all the same connectors.

    http://support.gateway.com/s/POWER/6500525/650052506.shtml

    "RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    news:MJGdd.15933$OD2.1538@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    > My concern was this:
    >
    > That if I take the 6500703 that my front USB and Firewire will no longer
    > function as you read the H Auxiliary Power Connector.
    >
    > Thanks,
    > Ron
    >
    > On the 6500583 it says: The P10 power connector is a 6-pin auxiliary power
    > connector that also connects only to motherboards that support Pentium IV.
    > It plugs next to the P1 power connector to form an L-shape on the
    > motherboard.
    >
    > H - Auxiliary Power Connector
    >
    > The six-pin connector on the left is the motherboard auxiliary power
    > connector. This auxiliary power connector accepts a power lead from the
    > power supply. This auxiliary power connector supplies additional current
    > for the front panel USB and is required for proper operation of the
    > motherboard.
    >
    > The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    > regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    > current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary power
    > connector.
    >
    > Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug the
    > power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds maximum).
    > There is more available current supplied to this motherboard than others.
    > Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot spots on the
    > motherboard and the component you were working with.
    >
    > On the 6500703 is says: The P9 power connector is a 4-pin auxiliary power
    > connector that connects only to motherboards that support Pentium IV.
    >
    > The P1 power connector that leads from the computer's power supply plugs
    > into the power supply connection on the motherboard. Although Pin 1 is
    > marked on the motherboard, match the clip on the connector to the notch on
    > the motherboard power supply connection. The clip is on the backside of
    > the connector. On the graphic, click the hyperlink for more information.
    >
    > B - Auxiliary ATX Power
    >
    > This is a closer view of the ATX auxiliary power on the motherboard. This
    > 2 × 2 power connector accepts a power lead from the power supply. This
    > auxiliary power connector supplies additional 12-volt service for the
    > processor and is required for proper operation of the motherboard. The
    > clip on the ATX power connector faces toward the front of the motherboard.
    >
    > The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    > regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    > current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary power
    > connector.
    >
    > Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug the
    > power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds maximum).
    > There is more available current supplied to this motherboard than others.
    > Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot spots on the
    > motherboard and the component you were working with.
    >
    >
    > Ben Myers wrote:
    >
    >> Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power
    >> supply is
    >> OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and
    >> dirt
    >> inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >>
    >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek"
    >> <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early
    >>>ones are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >>>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>>
    >>>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>>
    >>>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say
    >>>>it will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I
    >>>>really do need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the
    >>>>Country Store to get is the way I want it and that is why the Country
    >>>>Store said it was a good thing that I got that power supply because of
    >>>>what I have configured in my system.
    >>>>
    >>>>Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>>>System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>>>Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>>>8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>>>256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>>>Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>>>Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>>>BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>>>TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>>>Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>>>Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>>>WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>>>Installed Memory
    >>>>Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>>>Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>>>Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>>>Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>>
    >>>> Network Drives
    >>>>
    >>>>Printers
    >>>>Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>>>hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>>
    >>>>Controllers Display
    >>>>Standard floppy disk controller
    >>>>Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>>>Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>>>Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display
    >>>>adapter]
    >>>>RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>>>WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >>>>Live! Series (WDM)
    >>>>Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>>>Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>>>Communications Other Devices
    >>>>GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>>>1394 Net Adapter
    >>>>RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>>>Controller
    >>>>HID UPS Battery
    >>>>American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>>>Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>>>Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>>>Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>>>General Purpose USB Hub
    >>>>USB Root Hub
    >>>>USB Root Hub
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
  6. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Understood. Many people think that remanufacturing involves taking apart,
    replacing worn parts, cleaning, etc etc etc, which is the way it is with many
    non-computer industries involving mechanical or electrical equipment. Maybe I
    split a few hairs here? ... Ben

    On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:03:22 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >That's what I meant by refurb, cleaned and tested.
    >
    ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
    >news:4176e130.25483980@news.charter.net...
    >> Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power
    >> supply is
    >> OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and
    >> dirt
    >> inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >>
    >> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    >> wrote:
    >>
    >>>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early ones
    >>>are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >>>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>>
    >>>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say
    >>>>it
    >>>>will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really do
    >>>>need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store to
    >>>>get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was a
    >>>>good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have configured
    >>>>in my system.
    >>>>
    >>>> Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>>> System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>>> Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>>> 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>>> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>>> Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>>> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>>> BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>>> TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>> TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>>> Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>>> Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>>> WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>>> Installed Memory
    >>>> Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>>> Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>>> Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>>> Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>>
    >>>> Network Drives
    >>>>
    >>>> Printers
    >>>> Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>>> hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>>
    >>>> Controllers Display
    >>>> Standard floppy disk controller
    >>>> Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>>> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>>> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display
    >>>> adapter]
    >>>> RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>> Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>>> WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >>>> Live! Series (WDM)
    >>>> Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>>> Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>>> Communications Other Devices
    >>>> GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>>> 1394 Net Adapter
    >>>> RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>>> Controller
    >>>> HID UPS Battery
    >>>> American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>>> Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>>> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>>> Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>>> General Purpose USB Hub
    >>>> USB Root Hub
    >>>> USB Root Hub
    >>>
    >>>
    >>
    >
    >
  7. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Yes, my motherboard takes RDRAM, in looking at the connectors. From what
    I was told it only had 4 pin connector and that the 703 would not make
    my USB and FireWire on the front of my PC usable.

    I should have another power supply tomorrow hopefully the 583. Even the
    tech people at GW said that the 583 was a superior power supply and that
    I should insist on that one since it is what came with my PC.

    Ron

    Tweek wrote:
    > If you have the Gateway mainboard that takes RDRAM, there should be three
    > power supply connectors on the mainboard, the main ATX, the six pin near the
    > ATX (basically half an AT connector), and the four pin near the cpu. If your
    > machine has a separate firewire connection on a PCI card, it usually has a
    > four pin power connector on it also. One of the smaller 'floppy' power
    > connectors should connect to this. Is the 6500703 missing the six pin plug
    > that connects near the ATX connector? According to the info on Gateway's
    > site, both power supplies have all the same connectors.
    >
    > http://support.gateway.com/s/POWER/6500525/650052506.shtml
    >
    > "RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    > news:MJGdd.15933$OD2.1538@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >
    >>My concern was this:
    >>
    >>That if I take the 6500703 that my front USB and Firewire will no longer
    >>function as you read the H Auxiliary Power Connector.
    >>
    >>Thanks,
    >>Ron
    >>
    >>On the 6500583 it says: The P10 power connector is a 6-pin auxiliary power
    >>connector that also connects only to motherboards that support Pentium IV.
    >>It plugs next to the P1 power connector to form an L-shape on the
    >>motherboard.
    >>
    >>H - Auxiliary Power Connector
    >>
    >>The six-pin connector on the left is the motherboard auxiliary power
    >>connector. This auxiliary power connector accepts a power lead from the
    >>power supply. This auxiliary power connector supplies additional current
    >>for the front panel USB and is required for proper operation of the
    >>motherboard.
    >>
    >>The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    >>regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    >>current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary power
    >>connector.
    >>
    >>Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug the
    >>power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds maximum).
    >>There is more available current supplied to this motherboard than others.
    >>Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot spots on the
    >>motherboard and the component you were working with.
    >>
    >>On the 6500703 is says: The P9 power connector is a 4-pin auxiliary power
    >>connector that connects only to motherboards that support Pentium IV.
    >>
    >>The P1 power connector that leads from the computer's power supply plugs
    >>into the power supply connection on the motherboard. Although Pin 1 is
    >>marked on the motherboard, match the clip on the connector to the notch on
    >>the motherboard power supply connection. The clip is on the backside of
    >>the connector. On the graphic, click the hyperlink for more information.
    >>
    >>B - Auxiliary ATX Power
    >>
    >>This is a closer view of the ATX auxiliary power on the motherboard. This
    >>2 × 2 power connector accepts a power lead from the power supply. This
    >>auxiliary power connector supplies additional 12-volt service for the
    >>processor and is required for proper operation of the motherboard. The
    >>clip on the ATX power connector faces toward the front of the motherboard.
    >>
    >>The motherboard has more than one power connector because federal
    >>regulation allows a set level of current through each wire. If more
    >>current is needed, more terminals are required, hence this auxiliary power
    >>connector.
    >>
    >>Note: When reseating any components or working inside the case, unplug the
    >>power cord and wait for the green light to turn off (10 seconds maximum).
    >>There is more available current supplied to this motherboard than others.
    >>Failure to unplug the power cord will cause shorts and hot spots on the
    >>motherboard and the component you were working with.
    >>
    >>
    >>Ben Myers wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power
    >>>supply is
    >>>OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and
    >>>dirt
    >>>inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >>>
    >>>On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek"
    >>><shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    >>>wrote:
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>>>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early
    >>>>ones are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>>>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do, they
    >>>>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>>>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They say
    >>>>>it will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I
    >>>>>really do need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the
    >>>>>Country Store to get is the way I want it and that is why the Country
    >>>>>Store said it was a good thing that I got that power supply because of
    >>>>>what I have configured in my system.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>>>>System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>>>>Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>>>>8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>>>>256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>>>>Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>>>>Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>>>>BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>>>>TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>>TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>>3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>>>>Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>>>>Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>>>>WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>>>>Installed Memory
    >>>>>Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>>>>Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>>>>Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>>>>Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Network Drives
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Printers
    >>>>>Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>>>>hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>>>
    >>>>>Controllers Display
    >>>>>Standard floppy disk controller
    >>>>>Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>>>>Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>>>>Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display
    >>>>>adapter]
    >>>>>RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>>>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>>Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>>Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>>>>WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>>>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>>>>Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative SB
    >>>>>Live! Series (WDM)
    >>>>>Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>>>>Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>>>>Communications Other Devices
    >>>>>GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>>>>1394 Net Adapter
    >>>>>RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>>>>Controller
    >>>>>HID UPS Battery
    >>>>>American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>>>>Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>>>>Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>>>>Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>>>>General Purpose USB Hub
    >>>>>USB Root Hub
    >>>>>USB Root Hub
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >
    >
  8. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Considering parts are such a commodity now, it would be a terrible waste of
    money to do to computer parts what the automotive parts industry does. I
    actually had a customer ask about a 'core charge' on his power supply as if
    we would give him a discount for trading in his dead unit.

    <ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
    news:41782120.32414172@news.charter.net...
    > Understood. Many people think that remanufacturing involves taking apart,
    > replacing worn parts, cleaning, etc etc etc, which is the way it is with
    > many
    > non-computer industries involving mechanical or electrical equipment.
    > Maybe I
    > split a few hairs here? ... Ben
    >
    > On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 18:03:22 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    >>That's what I meant by refurb, cleaned and tested.
    >>
    >><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
    >>news:4176e130.25483980@news.charter.net...
    >>> Hardly any computer parts get remnaufactured these days. A used power
    >>> supply is
    >>> OK though if it has been tested and then cleaned out of all the dust and
    >>> dirt
    >>> inside. That's the extent of refurbishment: test and clean... Ben Myers
    >>>
    >>> On Wed, 20 Oct 2004 18:26:48 GMT, "Tweek"
    >>> <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    >>> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>>It will work fine. It is just a newer revision of the same power supply.
    >>>>Your original one is Revision 2, the 6500703 is revision 4. The early
    >>>>ones
    >>>>are notorious for failed fans. It has the same ratings (250W). It is
    >>>>unlikely that they even have any of the old ones anyway. If they do,
    >>>>they
    >>>>will definitly be used, though the other one is likely a reman anyway.
    >>>>
    >>>>"RDBrimmer" <ronb21@att.net> wrote in message
    >>>>news:09ndd.13486$OD2.5501@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >>>>>I need some feedback on power supplies. Gateway has sent me 2 power
    >>>>>supplies 6500703, but the power supply in my system is 6500583. They
    >>>>>say
    >>>>>it
    >>>>>will work but when I talk to the tech support people that say I really
    >>>>>do
    >>>>>need the 6500583. I had a lot of work done on it at the Country Store
    >>>>>to
    >>>>>get is the way I want it and that is why the Country Store said it was
    >>>>>a
    >>>>>good thing that I got that power supply because of what I have
    >>>>>configured
    >>>>>in my system.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Operating System Windows XP Professional Service Pack 2 (build 2600)
    >>>>> System Model Gateway E-4600 4000762
    >>>>> Processor 1.90 gigahertza Main Circuit Board Intel Pentium 4
    >>>>> 8 kilobyte primary memory cache
    >>>>> 256 kilobyte secondary memory cache
    >>>>> Board: Intel Corporation D850GB AAA49507-904
    >>>>> Bus Clock: 100 megahertz
    >>>>> BIOS: Intel Corp. GB85010A.15A.0046.P13.0108201551 08/20/2001
    >>>>> TDK CDRW5200B [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>> TDK DVDRW840G [CD-ROM drive]
    >>>>> 3.5" format removeable media [Floppy drive]
    >>>>> Maxtor 4A300J0 [Hard drive] (300.00 GB)
    >>>>> Maxtor 6Y250P0 [Hard drive] (251.00 GB)
    >>>>> WDC WD1200BB-50CAA1 [Hard drive] (120.03 GB)
    >>>>> Installed Memory
    >>>>> Slot 'J7J1' has 512 MB
    >>>>> Slot 'J7J2' has 512 MB
    >>>>> Slot 'J8J1' has 128 MB
    >>>>> Slot 'J8J2' has 128 MB
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Network Drives
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Printers
    >>>>> Hp officejet k series on DOT4_001
    >>>>> hp officejet k series fax on DOT4_001
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Controllers Display
    >>>>> Standard floppy disk controller
    >>>>> Intel(r) 82801BA Bus Master IDE Controller
    >>>>> Primary IDE Channel [Controller]
    >>>>> Secondary IDE Channel [Controller] RADEON 9600 SERIES [Display
    >>>>> adapter]
    >>>>> RADEON 9600 SERIES - Secondary [Display adapter]
    >>>>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>> Samsung SyncMaster [Monitor] (15.7"vis, s/n HVAW201185, February 2003)
    >>>>> Bus Adapters Multimedia
    >>>>> WinXP Promise Ultra133 TX2 (tm) IDE Controller
    >>>>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2442
    >>>>> Intel(r) 82801BA/BAM USB Universal Host Controller - 2444 Creative
    >>>>> SB
    >>>>> Live! Series (WDM)
    >>>>> Creative SBLive! Gameport
    >>>>> Unimodem Half-Duplex Audio Device
    >>>>> Communications Other Devices
    >>>>> GTW V.92 Voicemodem
    >>>>> 1394 Net Adapter
    >>>>> RAS Async Adapter Texas Instruments OHCI Compliant IEEE 1394 Host
    >>>>> Controller
    >>>>> HID UPS Battery
    >>>>> American Power Conversion USB UPS
    >>>>> Hewlett-Packard OfficeJet K80 Scanner
    >>>>> Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
    >>>>> Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
    >>>>> General Purpose USB Hub
    >>>>> USB Root Hub
    >>>>> USB Root Hub
    >>>>
    >>>>
    >>>
    >>
    >>
    >
  9. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Yes. Too true. Similar to the foolishness of replacing a failed fan inside a
    power supply. First, it involves soldering, which I avoid. Second, one never
    knows what else is burned out and failed.

    How expensive are power supplies? Well, I had a dead IBM P4 system here, so I
    called IBM's tech support, who said that their first step with warranty parts
    was to overnight a power supply. They sent the power supply, but the
    motherboard was the real problem. Next day, they overnighted a replacement mobo
    with Fedex labels to return the bad board. The system worked just fine, so I
    called IBM tech support to ask them about the extra power supply. I was told to
    keep the power supply. Why? Because it would cost more than the power supply
    was worth to IBM to ship it back... Ben Myers

    On Fri, 22 Oct 2004 14:55:52 GMT, "Tweek" <shawnwinget@nospam_hotmail.com>
    wrote:

    >Considering parts are such a commodity now, it would be a terrible waste of
    >money to do to computer parts what the automotive parts industry does. I
    >actually had a customer ask about a 'core charge' on his power supply as if
    >we would give him a discount for trading in his dead unit.
    >
    ><ben_myers_spam_me_not @ charter.net (Ben Myers)> wrote in message
    >news:41782120.32414172@news.charter.net...
    >> Understood. Many people think that remanufacturing involves taking apart,
    >> replacing worn parts, cleaning, etc etc etc, which is the way it is with
    >> many
    >> non-computer industries involving mechanical or electrical equipment.
    >> Maybe I
    >> split a few hairs here? ... Ben
    >>
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