buying a new TV card suggestion

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Hi,
I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE (Rest in
peace

The three came to my mind are:
LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55

Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is updated.

Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?


Thanks,
Tal

 

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NONE of them.

Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.

You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.

"Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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> Hi,
> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE (Rest
in
> peace
>
> The three came to my mind are:
> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
>
> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is updated.
>
> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Tal
>
>

 

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Noozer wrote:

> NONE of them.
>
> Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.
>
> You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.

sWhy does he want an MCE board to use with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5?

As for MPEG2 compression in hardware, that's an advantage for some purposes
but not for others. Is the compression that comes out of the board
directly transferable to DVD without transcoding?

> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:425a9808$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>> Hi,
>> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE (Rest
> in
>> peace
>>
>> The three came to my mind are:
>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
>> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
>>
>> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
>> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is
>> updated.
>>
>> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tal
>>
>>

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It's price is more then twice


Tal


"Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
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> NONE of them.
>
> Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.
>
> You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.
>
> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:425a9808$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>> Hi,
>> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE (Rest
> in
>> peace
>>
>> The three came to my mind are:
>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
>> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
>>
>> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
>> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is
>> updated.
>>
>> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tal
>>
>>
>
>

 

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Tal,

I've had the WinFast TV2000 XP Deluxe for a couple of years. The original
software had a lot of problems but all the problems I had with the original
software have been fixed in the latest software upgrades. The only problem I
have now it that the remote no longer works. However, that may be a
mechanical problem caused by dropping it. Other than that I'm happy with the
card given the little use I make of it.

I use PowerDVD 5.0 currently and I've used PowerDVD 4.0 in the past. It
seems that most 3rd party software works fine with the various Leadtek
cards. If WinDVD is a problem, you can get OEM versions of PowerDVD 4.0 or
5.0 here:
http://www.surpluscomputers.net/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=SWW12247
for around $5 US including shipping.

Wayne
"Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:425aa66b@news.bezeqint.net...
> It's price is more then twice
>
>
> Tal
>
>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:Nex6e.963005$8l.679264@pd7tw1no...
>> NONE of them.
>>
>> Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.
>>
>> You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.
>>
>> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
>> news:425a9808$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>>> Hi,
>>> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE
>>> (Rest
>> in
>>> peace
>>>
>>> The three came to my mind are:
>>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
>>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
>>> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
>>>
>>> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
>>> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is
>>> updated.
>>>
>>> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tal
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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And worth every penny!!!

"Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
news:425aa66b@news.bezeqint.net...
> It's price is more then twice
>
>
> Tal
>
>
> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
> news:Nex6e.963005$8l.679264@pd7tw1no...
> > NONE of them.
> >
> > Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.
> >
> > You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.
> >
> > "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> > news:425a9808$1@news.bezeqint.net...
> >> Hi,
> >> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE
(Rest
> > in
> >> peace
> >>
> >> The three came to my mind are:
> >> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
> >> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
> >> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
> >>
> >> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
> >> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is
> >> updated.
> >>
> >> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
> >>
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tal
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
>
>

 

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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:59:06 GMT, "GuessWho"
<me@privacy.net> wrote:

>Tal,
>
>I've had the WinFast TV2000 XP Deluxe for a couple of years. The original
>software had a lot of problems but all the problems I had with the original
>software have been fixed in the latest software upgrades. The only problem I
>have now it that the remote no longer works. However, that may be a
>mechanical problem caused by dropping it. Other than that I'm happy with the
>card given the little use I make of it.

A lot of remotes have a rubber number pad that seems to
degrade after a time as evidenced by a gooey liquid between
the contacts and the circuit board. In such cases
disassembling the remote and simply, gently washing the
rubber keypad in warm detergent and wiping the circuit board
with a paper towel might help... or maybe it really did
break when dropped, but I suspect it'd take a really hard
impact to damage it enough that it wasn't reasonably easy to
fix.

 

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In article <425aa66b@news.bezeqint.net>, Tal Fuchs says...
> It's price is more then twice
>
Yeah but unlike alot of the £30/$30 ones, its not a software one.

TV tuners are like modems, there's software ones and hardware. I've
just had my first experience of a software one and it is shite. Picture
freezes everytime I fire up an app or load a new webpage in the browser
and this is on a 3.2GHz/1GB RAM system.


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WinDVD Recorder is very good both for watching TV and recording it to a DVD
burner

Tal


"GuessWho" <me@privacy.net> wrote in message
news:u1y6e.3682$BJ3.552@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Tal,
>
> I've had the WinFast TV2000 XP Deluxe for a couple of years. The original
> software had a lot of problems but all the problems I had with the
> original software have been fixed in the latest software upgrades. The
> only problem I have now it that the remote no longer works. However, that
> may be a mechanical problem caused by dropping it. Other than that I'm
> happy with the card given the little use I make of it.
>
> I use PowerDVD 5.0 currently and I've used PowerDVD 4.0 in the past. It
> seems that most 3rd party software works fine with the various Leadtek
> cards. If WinDVD is a problem, you can get OEM versions of PowerDVD 4.0 or
> 5.0 here:
> http://www.surpluscomputers.net/store/main.aspx?p=ItemDetail&item=SWW12247
> for around $5 US including shipping.
>
> Wayne
> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:425aa66b@news.bezeqint.net...
>> It's price is more then twice
>>
>>
>> Tal
>>
>>
>> "Noozer" <dont.spam@me.here> wrote in message
>> news:Nex6e.963005$8l.679264@pd7tw1no...
>>> NONE of them.
>>>
>>> Get a Hauppauge PVR-150MCE card.
>>>
>>> You want a card that does MPEG2 compression in HARDWARE.
>>>
>>> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
>>> news:425a9808$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I want to buy a new TV card to replace my good old ATI TV Wonder VE
>>>> (Rest
>>> in
>>>> peace
>>>>
>>>> The three came to my mind are:
>>>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 30 - $45
>>>> LifeView FlyTV Prime 34 - $55
>>>> WinFast TV2000 XP TV - $55
>>>>
>>>> Will these cards work with InterVideo WinDVD recorder 5 ?
>>>> I'm not sure the supported TV cards in the InterVideo WEB site is
>>>> updated.
>>>>
>>>> Can you give me the Good and Bad points for each one of them ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tal
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

 

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I'll mainly use it for watching TV, and very ocasionally recording it.
So, loading other applications at the same time is not an issue.
But, still I'm learning something new here

I guess ATI TV wonder is a "software" one too, isn't it ?
I had no problems with it at all.
It died with my old PIII CPU, MB, 40GB HDD (Still under waranty , CDR,
DVD, PSU because of some electric problems

"Conor Turton" <conor@conorturton.com> wrote in message
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> In article <425aa66b@news.bezeqint.net>, Tal Fuchs says...
>> It's price is more then twice
>>
> Yeah but unlike alot of the £30/$30 ones, its not a software one.
>
> TV tuners are like modems, there's software ones and hardware. I've
> just had my first experience of a software one and it is shite. Picture
> freezes everytime I fire up an app or load a new webpage in the browser
> and this is on a 3.2GHz/1GB RAM system.
>
>
> --
> Conor
>
> "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most." O.Osbourne.

 

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In article <425ae5b2$1@news.bezeqint.net>, Tal Fuchs says...
> I'll mainly use it for watching TV, and very ocasionally recording it.
> So, loading other applications at the same time is not an issue.
> But, still I'm learning something new here
>
> I guess ATI TV wonder is a "software" one too, isn't it ?
> I had no problems with it at all.
> It died with my old PIII CPU, MB, 40GB HDD (Still under waranty , CDR,
> DVD, PSU because of some electric problems
>
I had a 9800SE AIW, not a standalone card. Never had an issue with it.


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"Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
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> I'll mainly use it for watching TV, and very ocasionally recording it.
> So, loading other applications at the same time is not an issue.
> But, still I'm learning something new here

That's the most common use for such cards. TV Wonders used in conjunction
with a Radeon graphics card (along with All In Wonder Radeons and higher) do
have a special feature called "ThruView" which allows you to watch TV on a
semi-transparent window which can also be looked through to see what's
underneath. This is handy for those wanting to do other things such as web
surf at the same time.
>
> I guess ATI TV wonder is a "software" one too, isn't it ?

The TV Wonder, TV Wonder VE and TV Wonder Pro are all software encoding
cards, the newest ATI Tuner card along with the eHome Wonder card - the TV
Wonder Elite, is a hardware MPEG2 encoding card but both use different
interface software (Windows Media Centre Edition 2005 or a special version
of Cinemaster software in the case of the Elite and MCE only for the eHome
Wonder) to display the picture while all the rest rely on ATIs Multimedia
Centre for that.

> I had no problems with it at all.
> It died with my old PIII CPU, MB, 40GB HDD (Still under waranty , CDR,
> DVD, PSU because of some electric problems

Have you tried the TV Tuner card in another machine with a fresh install of
the drivers and software for it (asking someone knowledgeable to help if
need be) - possibly the problems it exhibited were temporary due to the
failure of other components after the power surge? I'd definitely be
checking it over carefully before deciding to bin it.
<snip>

Paul

 

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"Paul Murphy" <p_murphynothanks@tospamhotmail.com> wrote in message
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> "Tal Fuchs" <fuchs_t@bezeqint.net> wrote in message
> news:425ae5b2$1@news.bezeqint.net...
>> I'll mainly use it for watching TV, and very ocasionally recording it.
>> So, loading other applications at the same time is not an issue.
>> But, still I'm learning something new here
>
> That's the most common use for such cards. TV Wonders used in conjunction
> with a Radeon graphics card (along with All In Wonder Radeons and higher)
> do have a special feature called "ThruView" which allows you to watch TV
> on a semi-transparent window which can also be looked through to see
> what's underneath. This is handy for those wanting to do other things such
> as web surf at the same time.
>>
>> I guess ATI TV wonder is a "software" one too, isn't it ?
>
> The TV Wonder, TV Wonder VE and TV Wonder Pro are all software encoding
> cards, the newest ATI Tuner card along with the eHome Wonder card - the TV
> Wonder Elite, is a hardware MPEG2 encoding card but both use different
> interface software (Windows Media Centre Edition 2005 or a special version
> of Cinemaster software in the case of the Elite and MCE only for the eHome
> Wonder) to display the picture while all the rest rely on ATIs Multimedia
> Centre for that.
>
>> I had no problems with it at all.
>> It died with my old PIII CPU, MB, 40GB HDD (Still under waranty , CDR,
>> DVD, PSU because of some electric problems
>
> Have you tried the TV Tuner card in another machine with a fresh install
> of the drivers and software for it (asking someone knowledgeable to help
> if need be) - possibly the problems it exhibited were temporary due to the
> failure of other components after the power surge? I'd definitely be
> checking it over carefully before deciding to bin it.
> <snip>


Ya I checked it in another two machines.
In one machine it won't boot at all and the machune will beep.
In the other machine it will boot but all other PCI cards, including the
Internal PCI bridged cards (Sound, NIC) won't work. The TV tunner got
extremely hot (I can't touch it with my hand).
So, Yes. I'm sure it can go to bin


>
> Paul
>

 

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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 18:09:03 GMT, kony <spam@spam.com> put finger to
keyboard and composed:

>On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 16:59:06 GMT, "GuessWho"
><me@privacy.net> wrote:

>>The only problem I
>>have now it that the remote no longer works. However, that may be a
>>mechanical problem caused by dropping it. Other than that I'm happy with the
>>card given the little use I make of it.
>
>A lot of remotes have a rubber number pad that seems to
>degrade after a time as evidenced by a gooey liquid between
>the contacts and the circuit board. In such cases
>disassembling the remote and simply, gently washing the
>rubber keypad in warm detergent and wiping the circuit board
>with a paper towel might help... or maybe it really did
>break when dropped, but I suspect it'd take a really hard
>impact to damage it enough that it wasn't reasonably easy to
>fix.

Most remotes have a 2-pin or 3-pin ceramic resonator. A common problem
is that the pins fatigue and break at the body because the resonator
is not glued down.


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