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Loqutis   08-11-2003 at 08:48:31 AM

How much are plasma screens in the US, Here in noo zillind a 42in screen is about $8500, I had a guy I was talking to told me about plasma tv's he was looking at in the US, he said a 42in he was looking at was $1400 US, thats about 3K NZ, about a 1/3 what they are here

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starbucksaddict   08-11-2003 at 07:51:53 PM
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Futureshop Canada has junk brand 42" for C$4999 (NZ$6149)
and Panasonic for C$7999 (NZ$9840)
I'm currently checking my sources for wholesale prices.

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starbucksaddict   08-13-2003 at 07:28:17 AM
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wholesale price C$5800 (NZ$7143) plus shipping

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dhlucke   08-13-2003 at 07:31:46 AM
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They are insanely expensive. A good sized one is gonna cost you $5000 at least. The one that blew my mind cost $10,000. At 42" I don't know exactly, but you can check out bestbuy, goodguys, or circuitcity online to find out.

I don't have the money but I keep telling my friends to buy one.

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dhlucke   08-13-2003 at 07:34:58 AM
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It looks like 42"ers are around $7000 USD.

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dhlucke   08-13-2003 at 07:39:30 AM
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You can get 42" plasma screens for $3000-$4000 wholesale at Costco but I've never heard of the brand.

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eden   08-13-2003 at 07:43:18 AM
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It's true once you see Plasma screen quality, you can't go back. FutureShop plays a "flying around" documentary, made on purpose to make you immersed. It's really realistic and it does immerse you a fair amount.

Even the Plasma makers have admitted and stated, wait 3 years, then buy. Prices will drop significantly. They said that to even consumers. Besides it's only there to help the goal of the industry's experts, expecting that by 2006 we will be HDTV compliant.
I hope Plasmas drop in price soon, it'll be awesome. Tons better than huge entertainment screens, which show so many scanlines and have crap angle of viewing (like old LCDs).


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eden   08-13-2003 at 07:44:26 AM
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That's very odd, the ones I saw the other day at FS were 11000$. Dunno the size though.

Either way it'll all drop to insignificant amounts in 3 years from now.

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dhlucke   08-13-2003 at 08:19:58 AM
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Nobody should buy a new TV, unless they ABSOLUTELY have to, until after HDTV goes standard. That's gonna be in 2005 or 2006.

All old analog TV's will have to be replaced and unless vendors do something illegal, the competition should be so fierce that prices will be a lot more reasonable.

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starbucksaddict   08-13-2003 at 08:20:32 AM
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Futureshop prices:
Norcent 42" C$4999 US$3602
Panasonic 42" C$7999 US$5764 (wholesale C$5800)
Sony WEGA 42" C$9999 US$7206
Panasonic 50" C$14999 US$10809


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Loqutis   08-13-2003 at 08:59:51 AM
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Isnt High Definition already out in the US?, Ive been told that the reason they are so expensive is that for every 10 they make, only 5 work, so in reality you are buying 2, the one that works and the one that didnt

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dhlucke   08-13-2003 at 09:03:03 AM
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HDTV has been out for years. However, the networks are only showing a few shows in HD. By 2006 though all broadcasts will be in HD. If you have a newer analog TV you can buy a decoder box. Everyone with an older TV will only be able to use it for watching DVD's and VHS tapes.

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eden   08-14-2003 at 07:03:08 AM
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Only thing that should not be mixed though is HDTV and PLASMA. Both are different things.

Still, one is tempted to see what a normal TV with HD would look like, and a Plasma without HD would look like, for the sake of seeing each technology's benefits.

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dhlucke   08-14-2003 at 07:23:33 AM
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HDTV is just a digital TV with a decoder I thought. So a Plasma TV will just need a decoder and it should be good to go right?

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eden   08-14-2003 at 08:19:40 AM
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I still don't get it.

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dhlucke   08-14-2003 at 08:24:49 AM
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HD is just the broadcast.

Analog, digital, and plasma are the types of TV.

Any of the above should be able to be turned into a HDTV, with the exception of many analog TV's.

I think...

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eden   08-14-2003 at 08:44:45 PM
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Ok, this "broadcast", what difference does it make on a TV Screen?

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Grub   08-14-2003 at 09:28:03 PM
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All the difference in the world, my young friend. Without broadcast we'd all be watching reruns of white noise...

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eden   08-14-2003 at 10:16:02 PM
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ROFL, I meant what does the HDTV format broadcast does.

But you knew that now didn't ya... :wink:


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Grub   08-14-2003 at 10:20:25 PM
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Its just a better resolution format. There is a better pixel density to the image.

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dhlucke   08-14-2003 at 10:21:14 PM
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I don't know the details at all, but I do know that HD broadcasts send a lot more information than a normal analog TV would know what to do with.

A HDTV broadcast has I believe 4 pipelines so that you could literally watch a soccer match from all 4 corners at the same time, or you could have one pipeline with super high quality.

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eden   08-15-2003 at 12:04:34 AM
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Whaddya mean all four corners?

Now Plasma is all about even more advanced image quality, right? In fact it removes all that horrible blur low-sharpness TV res, right?

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 02:38:30 AM
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Bladry blardy blrd, plasmas= the suck. First off their emissions are ridiculous, I remember a guy in the LCD forum using a device to measure radiation from monitors- on a crt it wasn't a biggie, lcd was practically none, and then the plasma was like HOLY SHIZNIT! He was outside and it was still measuring emmisions from the plasma! Plus, I hate being able to see the separate rgb subpixels...bugs the hell out of me. I dislike plasmas very much....sure they look stylish, but why am I gonna go drop 14K on something where a good $3500 projector will display a screen 2x larger. Another excellent technology I read that was demonstrated at the SID conferences is a true seamless multi-lcd screen, ie say 10 lcd panels such that there is no seam. Now that will be cool. I may get in addition to the projectors we are looking at (too bad I can see the colors shift via the color wheel on DLP techs- don't worry though, the normal eye will not notice that at all).

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silverpig   08-16-2003 at 02:46:29 AM
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I'd not buy a plasma right now either. For the money, I'd go with a nice 42" 16:9 crt HDTV and then wait and see if you could get a 42" LCD some years down the road.

Some day I'll be rich and famous for inventing a device that allows you to stab people in the face over the internet.

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eden   08-16-2003 at 03:42:49 AM
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So, your eyes are not normal eyes?

Man, everyone I know who has seen a plasma with their eyes have been nothing short of impressed.
Something tells me you are the one with the problem eyes, especially with your last sentence.

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 05:08:06 AM
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I suppose one could see it as a "problem", though really it is an abnormality that can be advantageous. It's like I notice quicker things. The average eye cannot see flicker past 75Hz, I can see it up to 100Hz. That's not normal. The average eye cannot see the constant flashing of colors that DLP is based on, I can. It is useful to me for the things I sometimes do with graphics, and I am yet to find a case where it is a disadvantage. I'm not sure if this is related, I don't think it is, but my left is also 20/10, so who knows.

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 05:09:18 AM
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And it can help me judge a screen btw. However, I think almost anyone can see the subpixels, they are very very large.

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eden   08-16-2003 at 06:59:30 AM
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I didn't try to even get close to see pixels on a Plasma, I was simply drawn in by how immersive the video and scenery was.

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 07:14:39 AM
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You definetly don't need to go very up close to see em. Do what you want, these are my 2 cents, I find the image quality shoddy at best.

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eden   08-16-2003 at 07:19:05 AM
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Then which screen fits you?

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 07:20:05 AM
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My 32" sony fits me well right now. I'll go buy a bigger tv/ project when some better tech somes out.

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eden   08-16-2003 at 07:22:17 AM
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I very much doubt there is anything beyond Plasma right now which will come out. Analysts expect HDTV to be the standard by 2006, and Plasma will rightly take its place as the home theater. Something tells me your eyes will start deceiving you in a few years when it becomes all too clear/standardized.

Oh and the worst are the current big screen TVs, with those annoying scan-lines and horrible angle of vision.

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 07:36:50 AM
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Sorry, I forgot analysts had the magical crystal ball to tell exactly what will happen in the future. The average joe should go out and buy a plasma, it'll help the economy. Hell, they can throw me 5 grand if they want to as well. However, you're not the average joe, so perhaps you could go for a better tech like the seamless lcd if it comes into production? I am still against the emissions on those things.

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eden   08-16-2003 at 07:39:06 AM
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They project it that way because they projected PRICE DROPS, and major ones.

Pretty soon the buyer who paid 10000$ on that screen will realize it now costs 500$.

Furthermore, if Plasma doesn't kick off, there is the other carbon-based screen technology, rumored to be in R&D. Appeared on THG Hard News. Might cost much less and produce so much more. Anything to get away from LCDs IMO. I have yet to find them as an alternative.

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dhlucke   08-16-2003 at 10:01:06 AM
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You really don't like Plasma screens? They look absolutely amazing to everyone but you then.

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Flamethrower205   08-16-2003 at 05:14:53 PM
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Yes.....

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