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Anonymous
June 28, 2005 1:11:45 AM

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Just discovered this mission is a way to get to SF and LV early without the
4-star.

When the cops arrive and you're supposed to go inside the Jefferson, don't.
Go wherever you want. No peds. No cars (except the parked spawners). And
here's the important one: you can't GET any wanted stars -- not even by
visiting SF and LV.

If you want to visit SF (slightly early) or LV (very early) without
consequences, this is a great way. Just steal the jet from the LS airport.
(If you collect cool weapons like the heat-seeker, though, be aware that, to
keep them, you will have to finish the mission so you can save. You might
do a lot of work, then die in the mission.)

It's a spooky world without the people and cars.

The fine points:

You can land a copter on the carrier, and fly over the base south of Verdant
Meadows, without getting any stars. (The missiles WILL fire at you over the
base -- but NOT on the carrier.)

You can enter the cop shop in LS and wail on the cops with no consequences.
(They even cower, like people in the fast food places.)

No stars, but you CAN get the police gate guard and the cops in the
underground lot to shoot back.

Food stands are still manned.

You can find people in the fast food places, bars, etc.

The trolleys still run. (Not sure about the trains.)


Additional note about the Motel: The copter appears to just hover there
forever. Kill the cops. Climb the stairs to the roof (south side). It MAY
be possible to toss a satchel on the copter. Haven't tried it yet. If so,
could be humorous.


--cleve
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 11:27:38 AM

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Cleve wrote:
>
<snip good stuff>
> --cleve

that's pretty cool. it would make it easier to collect the oysters
early.
--
Paul (And I'm, like, "yeah, whatever!")
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 11:27:39 AM

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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:27:38 GMT, Paul Heslop
<paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Cleve wrote:
>>
><snip good stuff>
>> --cleve
>
>that's pretty cool. it would make it easier to collect the oysters
>early.

I found a mod called "Water Level Customizer" that allows you to
adjust the levels of bodies of water. I set the level to -1000.0
which pretty much eliminated all water. I was able to ride a sanchez
on the solid bottoms. Just don't go to far out into the sea floor or
you drop through the map.

Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 1:46:55 PM

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Jack Crack wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:27:38 GMT, Paul Heslop
> <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Cleve wrote:
> >>
> ><snip good stuff>
> >> --cleve
> >
> >that's pretty cool. it would make it easier to collect the oysters
> >early.
>
> I found a mod called "Water Level Customizer" that allows you to
> adjust the levels of bodies of water. I set the level to -1000.0
> which pretty much eliminated all water. I was able to ride a sanchez
> on the solid bottoms. Just don't go to far out into the sea floor or
> you drop through the map.
>
> Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.

that for the pc vesion? I'm on ps2
--
Paul (And I'm, like, "yeah, whatever!")
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 2:08:03 PM

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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:46:55 GMT, Paul Heslop
<paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>Jack Crack wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:27:38 GMT, Paul Heslop
>> <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Cleve wrote:
>> >>
>> ><snip good stuff>
>> >> --cleve
>> >
>> >that's pretty cool. it would make it easier to collect the oysters
>> >early.
>>
>> I found a mod called "Water Level Customizer" that allows you to
>> adjust the levels of bodies of water. I set the level to -1000.0
>> which pretty much eliminated all water. I was able to ride a sanchez
>> on the solid bottoms. Just don't go to far out into the sea floor or
>> you drop through the map.
>>
>> Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.
>
>that for the pc vesion? I'm on ps2


PC. The PC is the only way to go :) 
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 2:22:27 PM

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"Cleve" <clevens@cox.net> wrote in message
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> It MAY
> be possible to toss a satchel on the copter. Haven't tried it yet. If
> so,
> could be humorous.
>

Yep, you can satchel the copter.

Yep, it's humorous.

--cleve
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 2:58:29 PM

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"Jack Crack" <JackCrack@JackCrack.not> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:46:55 GMT, Paul Heslop
>
> PC. The PC is the only way to go :) 
>

Naw.

Gotta play in the livingroom, on the TV. I feel like I'm "at work" when I
sit at the computer.

Plus, gotta get it that 6 months earlier.

Plus, the PC seems to have endless controller and configuration problems.
No thanks.

The only thing I envy about the PC version is the ability to make those nice
screen-capture images you can e-mail and put up on the Net. I can shoot
digitals from the TV screen, but they ain't even close to the quality of the
pix you PC guys can make.

Oh. And monkeying with the config file(s) might be fun.

--cleve
Anonymous
June 28, 2005 9:20:43 PM

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Jack Crack wrote:
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 09:46:55 GMT, Paul Heslop
> <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Jack Crack wrote:
> >>
> >> On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 07:27:38 GMT, Paul Heslop
> >> <paul.heslop@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Cleve wrote:
> >> >>
> >> ><snip good stuff>
> >> >> --cleve
> >> >
> >> >that's pretty cool. it would make it easier to collect the oysters
> >> >early.
> >>
> >> I found a mod called "Water Level Customizer" that allows you to
> >> adjust the levels of bodies of water. I set the level to -1000.0
> >> which pretty much eliminated all water. I was able to ride a sanchez
> >> on the solid bottoms. Just don't go to far out into the sea floor or
> >> you drop through the map.
> >>
> >> Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.
> >
> >that for the pc vesion? I'm on ps2
>
> PC. The PC is the only way to go :) 

my pc is not powerful enough and I doubt I can afford to make it so.
--
Paul (And I'm, like, "yeah, whatever!")
-------------------------------------------------------
Stop and Look
http://www.geocities.com/dreamst8me/
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 12:55:14 AM

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In message <U74we.4748$4o.4227@fed1read06>
"Cleve" <clevens@cox.net> wrote:

> You might do a lot of work, then die in the mission.)

Presumably none of the girlfriends spawn then? Also, are the buildings
you can enter still marked with a yellow entry arrow?

> You can land a copter on the carrier, and fly over the base south of Verdant
> Meadows, without getting any stars. (The missiles WILL fire at you over the
> base -- but NOT on the carrier.)

Are Photo Ops available I wonder? The easiest-to-find cameras seem to
be near or next fast food joints in San Fierro.

I've noticed that the bridge to Las Venturas (To the north-east of Los
Santos) is blocked up but never tried the other bridge (Going to San
Fierro, west of LS). It should be the same but I never bothered to
check.

> Additional note about the Motel: The copter appears to just hover there
> forever. Kill the cops. Climb the stairs to the roof (south side). It MAY
> be possible to toss a satchel on the copter. Haven't tried it yet. If so,
> could be humorous.

Satchel charges do stick to aircraft, but I had much more fun blowing
them out the sky using the Rhino tank's turret <fx: mwahahahahaa>


Cheers,
Rob
--
..__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit.
| / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com
| \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England.
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 12:57:34 AM

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In message <ce32c1tu6trnimu9hln35p57ltjl9aa0h3@4ax.com>
Jack Crack <JackCrack@JackCrack.not> wrote:

> Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.

Like?

Can you adjust the water levels and have the proper physics (Floating
around near the top of skyscrapers for example) ?

That sort of reminds me of Super Mario Sunshine on the GameCube. After
getting all the way to the last level and having Defino Plaza flooded I
realised I was missing *loads* of blue coins to get more shines but
then got stuck on the last level.


Cheers,
Rob
--
..__ __ |__ |__ .|__ __ | Rob White, Half Man Half Biscuit.
| / \| \ | | || ||| /__\ | mflt35@dsl.pipex.com
| \__/|__/ |_|_|| |||__\___ | Wimbledon, London, England.
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 1:53:33 AM

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"Rob White" <mflt35@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:734340824d.Rob@aqus02.dsl.pipex.com...
>
> Presumably none of the girlfriends spawn then?

Dunno. I didn't check out everything. I just messed around for about a
half hour. For example, I know you can't place a horse racing bet (a
message says, "Looks like you're busy. Come back later.") but I didn't try
a casino.

Also, are the buildings
> you can enter still marked with a yellow entry arrow?
>

They seem to be.

>
> Are Photo Ops available I wonder? The easiest-to-find cameras seem to
> be near or next fast food joints in San Fierro.
>

Didn't check.

> I've noticed that the bridge to Las Venturas (To the north-east of Los
> Santos) is blocked up but never tried the other bridge (Going to San
> Fierro, west of LS). It should be the same but I never bothered to
> check.
>

I think all the road blocks are still there. Use a plane.

--cleve
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 3:16:00 AM

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On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 20:57:34 +0100, Rob White <mflt35@dsl.pipex.com>
wrote:

>In message <ce32c1tu6trnimu9hln35p57ltjl9aa0h3@4ax.com>
> Jack Crack <JackCrack@JackCrack.not> wrote:
>
>> Getting rid of the water reveals many unsuspected features.
>
>Like?

You can walk/ride around the floor of the waterways and checkout how
the maps are constructed. You can see that they spent a lot of time
creating shores and river bottoms that have quite a bit of terrain.
You can also see the bottoms of structures like the bridges and piers.

>
>Can you adjust the water levels and have the proper physics (Floating
>around near the top of skyscrapers for example) ?

The mod allows the wave height as well as the sea level to be
adjusted.

This mod could also be used with an early entry cheat (loophole) to
gain access to the complete map on motorcyle.
Anonymous
June 29, 2005 7:01:57 AM

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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:11:45 -0700, "Cleve" <clevens@cox.net> wrote:

>Just discovered this mission is a way to get to SF and LV early without the
>4-star.
>
>When the cops arrive and you're supposed to go inside the Jefferson, don't.
>Go wherever you want. No peds. No cars (except the parked spawners). And
>here's the important one: you can't GET any wanted stars -- not even by
>visiting SF and LV.
>
>If you want to visit SF (slightly early) or LV (very early) without
>consequences, this is a great way. Just steal the jet from the LS airport.
>(If you collect cool weapons like the heat-seeker, though, be aware that, to
>keep them, you will have to finish the mission so you can save. You might
>do a lot of work, then die in the mission.)
>
>It's a spooky world without the people and cars.
>
>The fine points:
>
>You can land a copter on the carrier, and fly over the base south of Verdant
>Meadows, without getting any stars. (The missiles WILL fire at you over the
>base -- but NOT on the carrier.)
>
>You can enter the cop shop in LS and wail on the cops with no consequences.
>(They even cower, like people in the fast food places.)
>
>No stars, but you CAN get the police gate guard and the cops in the
>underground lot to shoot back.
>
>Food stands are still manned.
>
>You can find people in the fast food places, bars, etc.
>
>The trolleys still run. (Not sure about the trains.)
>
>
>Additional note about the Motel: The copter appears to just hover there
>forever. Kill the cops. Climb the stairs to the roof (south side). It MAY
>be possible to toss a satchel on the copter. Haven't tried it yet. If so,
>could be humorous.
>
>
>--cleve
>
>
Nice work. So this is another no-wanted level mission.
I had known about Sweet's car but not this.
Just like 'you've had your chips', only twice as cool! (SF, LV)
-§ynch
Anonymous
July 2, 2005 6:05:48 PM

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I tried to use this trick to get a Patriot from the military base (ok,
I was trying to get a Rhino but there wasn't one) but I couldn't get
back over the bridge. I got out and ran to find a Packer so I could
jump it off the bridge and onto the grass but when I got it back the
Patriot was gone.

Phil Hibbs.
July 3, 2005 12:45:26 AM

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On Mon, 27 Jun 2005 21:11:45 -0700, Cleve wrote:

> Just discovered this mission is a way to get to SF and LV early without
> the 4-star.

nice find, cleve!

> The trolleys still run. (Not sure about the trains.)

they do in l.v.
Anonymous
July 3, 2005 2:10:57 AM

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"PhilHibbs" <snarks@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>I tried to use this trick to get a Patriot from the military base (ok,
> I was trying to get a Rhino but there wasn't one) but I couldn't get
> back over the bridge. I got out and ran to find a Packer so I could
> jump it off the bridge and onto the grass but when I got it back the
> Patriot was gone.
>
> Phil Hibbs.
>

Yeah, getting a (non-flying) vehicle back to LS is going to be a trick. You
could use the flying-cars cheat, I guess. (Do PC players have access to
the same cheats as PS2 players?) But then you'd have a cheat registered,
and you probably wouldn't want to save.

You can get back with a nice load of weapons, however.

The killer is that you still have to finish Reuniting the Families -- and
that's not easy (at least, not on the PS2; those "shoot while somebody else
drives" missions are tough).

--cleve
!