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I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,  
after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the Network.
 
Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do that  
when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.

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You need to find out what the SMTP server is that the hotel's service uses
and enter that into your email client - so it knows where to go to send
email......
 
PC
 
 
On 8/15/05 8:49 AM, in article
kQ2Me.8109$ns.5844@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net, "wowcow" wrote:
 
> I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,
> after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the Network.
>  
> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do that
> when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.
>  
>

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On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:49:36 GMT, wowcow <nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
> I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,  
> after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the Network.
>
> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do that  
> when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.  
 
   Many, many hotels block port 25 - the port that allows you to send email.
Presumably so people don't send out lots of spam.
 
   Additionally, even if they don't block the SMTP port, you may have to  
find out the address of their mail server if you're not using a
mail server that you have to authenticate with - otherwise, your
ISP will probably prevent you from relaying your email from outside
their network.
 
   - Rich

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user wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Aug 2005 15:49:36 GMT, wowcow
> <nomail@nomail.com> wrote:
>> I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.
>> Whenever I SEND eMail, after sending, my client reports
>> an error and disconnects from the Network.
>>
>> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My
>> client doesn't do that when the PDA is connected to my
>> laptop VIA Bluetooth.
>
>    Many, many hotels block port 25 - the port that allows
> you to send email. Presumably so people don't send out
> lots of spam.
>
>    Additionally, even if they don't block the SMTP port,
> you may have to find out the address of their mail server
> if you're not using a  mail server that you have to authenticate
> with - otherwise, your  ISP will probably prevent you from
> relaying your email from outside their network.
 
My ISP's server (SBC) authenticates and allows use
of an alternate port. Gets me by pretty much anywhere.
 
-Quick

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user <Rich@iwantnospam.com> wrote in  
news:slrndg1tcr.kkk.Rich@zippy.mulveyfamily.com:
 
> Many, many hotels block port 25 - the port that allows you to send email.
> Presumably so people don't send out lots of spam.
>  
 
Why webpage email servers were invented....(c;
 
--  
Larry

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Sounds like you are running into an SMTP issue.   POP is used to receive  
mail which isn't usually a problem unless you have a really wacky setup.  
What does get messed up is the SMTP which is used for sending mail.  Blame  
the spammers for almost all interner providers banning use of their SMTP  
server for outside uses.  For example, if you were sending mail through COX  
cable servicces and you are using Verizon Wireless internet service.
 
The best work around besides giving up and using web mail which blows donkey  
balls is to use the following:
 
1. *best choice*   Use Verizon Wireless's SMTP server.  You can  
configurethis by using smtp.vzwmail.net while connected to Verizon Wireless  
via National Access using your palm, laptop, whatever.   After assigning the  
correct SMTP server from previous sentence now you must tell your software  
to use ESMTP or in a shorter word authentication.  When it asks for your  
user ID, input the following which are in quotes:  
Your10DigitNumber@vzwmail.net  and for a password you put in your password  
you use when logging into www.vtext.com
 
Now you will have access to Verizon's SMTP server EVEN if you login from  
another network provider.  Because it authenticates you and says you are a  
valid user, you are given permission to use the SMTP server.
 
 
 
 
"wowcow" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message  
news:kQ2Me.8109$ns.5844@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,  
>after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the Network.
>
> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do  
> that when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.
>

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I've seen all the discussion. All I can say is that I have never used high  
speed Internet in a Hotel that blocked outbound port 25 for sending mail or  
the inbound POP3 port for receiving mail. I don't think you have a hotel  
issue. I think you have a mail client configuration issue.
 
-Frank
 
"wowcow" <nomail@nomail.com> wrote in message  
news:kQ2Me.8109$ns.5844@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,  
>after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the Network.
>
> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do  
> that when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.
>

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"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in newsdGdnWZ5OIBKxpzeRVn-
qQ@giganews.com:
 
> I think you have a mail client configuration issue.
 
I think he has his home SMTP server set into Outrage Express and is trying  
to send it emails from the hotel's ISP, which isn't allowed in any SMTP  
server I know of.  They don't allow off-system users to access SMTP because  
of the spammers.
 
So, he has one of two choices.  Use the hotel's SMTP server changing the  
Outrage Express configuration every time he changes hotels...or...Use his  
home system's webpage email system so he can get and SEND emails through  
their webpage system.
 
--  
Larry

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On Tue, 16 Aug 2005 07:51:51 -0400, Larry <noone@home.com> wrote:
 
>"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in newsdGdnWZ5OIBKxpzeRVn-
>qQ@giganews.com:
>
>> I think you have a mail client configuration issue.
>
>I think he has his home SMTP server set into Outrage Express and is trying  
>to send it emails from the hotel's ISP, which isn't allowed in any SMTP  
>server I know of.  They don't allow off-system users to access SMTP because  
>of the spammers.
 
I'm sure that there are still some "open relays" out there.  Blocking
port 25 by the ISP in use, execpt to their own server, helps protect
them.
 
>So, he has one of two choices.  Use the hotel's SMTP server changing the  
>Outrage Express configuration every time he changes hotels
 
I doubt that they will give you the server info, but any decent hacker
could probalby come up with it in a few minutes.
 
>...or...Use his  
>home system's webpage email system so he can get and SEND emails through  
>their webpage system.
 
Many but not all ISPs implement an SSL SMTP server on the default port
465.  They allow connection to it from "outside".  I use this from
various WiFi locations, from customers' networks, and from home.  I've
never had it blocked YET.  Firewalls can be configured to do so, but I
guess that I've been lucky so far.

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> If you haven't had to change your SMTP service "yet", you don't
> travel very much.....
 
I travel a whole bunch and have never had this trouble.
 
> In the last year I've been in hotels in more than twenty states - I need  
> to
> call to get the SMTP server about half the time....it's really no big
> deal....!
 
Why don't you just use your own? Simply enable authentication in your  
client.  Even if some servers say they don't "require" authentication, they  
usually leave out the part about "with a direct connect from our own  
customers" (IOW, our own IPs).  I have found, with these, you can still use  
them remotely if you use authentication while sending. I have yet to see  
where enabling authentication on a server that doesn't "require" is cause  
any problem.
 
-Frank

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On 8/16/05 10:33 AM, in article
jOmdnZ2dnZ3ttevinZ2dney-n96dnZ2dRVn-0Z2dnZ0@giganews.com, "Frankster" wrote:
 
>> If you haven't had to change your SMTP service "yet", you don't
>> travel very much.....
>  
> I travel a whole bunch and have never had this trouble.
>  
>> In the last year I've been in hotels in more than twenty states - I need
>> to
>> call to get the SMTP server about half the time....it's really no big
>> deal....!
>  
> Why don't you just use your own? Simply enable authentication in your
> client.  Even if some servers say they don't "require" authentication, they
> usually leave out the part about "with a direct connect from our own
> customers" (IOW, our own IPs).  I have found, with these, you can still use
> them remotely if you use authentication while sending. I have yet to see
> where enabling authentication on a server that doesn't "require" is cause
> any problem.
 
A distinction without a difference......
 
Either way, it's no big deal.......
 
PC

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In article <jOmdnZ2dnZ3ttevinZ2dney-n96dnZ2dRVn-0Z2dnZ0@giganews.com>,
 "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote:
 
> Why don't you just use your own? Simply enable authentication in your  
> client.  Even if some servers say they don't "require" authentication, they  
> usually leave out the part about "with a direct connect from our own  
> customers" (IOW, our own IPs).  I have found, with these, you can still use  
> them remotely if you use authentication while sending. I have yet to see  
> where enabling authentication on a server that doesn't "require" is cause  
> any problem.
 
That is GREAT information and it works! Thankyou!!
 
m-m

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I forgot to say (I'm embarrassed to admit this now after all the  
statements about it but ... ) I AM using WebMail because my firewall at work  
does not allow POP.
 
>> I just installed a Wi-Fi card in my XV6600 PDA.  Whenever I SEND eMail,
>> after sending, my client reports an error and disconnects from the  
>> Network.
>>
>> Is that something that a hotel frequetntly does?  My client doesn't do  
>> that
>> when the PDA is connected to my laptop VIA Bluetooth.
>
>   Many, many hotels block port 25 - the port that allows you to send  
> email.
> Presumably so people don't send out lots of spam.
>
>   Additionally, even if they don't block the SMTP port, you may have to
> find out the address of their mail server if you're not using a
> mail server that you have to authenticate with - otherwise, your
> ISP will probably prevent you from relaying your email from outside
> their network.
>
>   - Rich
>
>
>

For me this issue went away for good when I signed up with http://smtp.com.  The only downside is that they charge about $4 per month.