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musical marv
March 20, 2012 2:29:15 AM
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Oldmangamer_73
March 20, 2012 11:44:46 AM
brentkhack
March 21, 2012 11:34:53 PM
brentkhack
March 22, 2012 1:14:37 AM
musical marv
March 22, 2012 2:12:04 AM
musical marv
March 23, 2012 2:02:10 AM
musical marv
March 24, 2012 2:03:54 AM
Oldmangamer_73
March 24, 2012 12:54:04 PM
musical marv
March 29, 2012 2:42:05 AM
brentkhack
April 16, 2012 11:35:18 PM
musical marv said:
Savage is an entertainer and wants to sell his books to suckers who listen to him. he is a *** disturber.Selling his books is just another talent he has on top of being a top rated radio show. He is a very educated man and has done many things in life. So his experience is welcomed and needed.
wanamingo
April 17, 2012 12:58:56 AM
Is this the same Micheal Savage that said this:
and this?
I donestly didnt know who he was. I found most of this out just googling him and if this is what this dude is like...... Count me out, too racist for my tastes.
I also found out about a fellow named Jim David Adkisson when looking up Mr. Savage. Anyone read about this case?
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Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."and this?
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Multiculturalism has completely failed America. It is a disaster, an unmitigated disaster. Multiculturalism -- as a premise that all cultures are equal and all cultures have an equal amount to contribute to the world -- that's utter hogwash! The reason my ancestors came to this country as immigrants, and the reason your immigrants -- ancestors came to this country as immigrants is because of the great enterprise created by White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants. It is the greatest country ever created in the world. It is built upon the best -- the best of the White, Anglo-Saxon world.I donestly didnt know who he was. I found most of this out just googling him and if this is what this dude is like...... Count me out, too racist for my tastes.
I also found out about a fellow named Jim David Adkisson when looking up Mr. Savage. Anyone read about this case?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Savage
Seems hes Jewish
Seems hes Jewish
Oldmangamer_73
April 17, 2012 2:24:23 AM
wanamingo said:
Is this the same Micheal Savage that said this:Quote:
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."and this?
Quote:
Multiculturalism has completely failed America. It is a disaster, an unmitigated disaster. Multiculturalism -- as a premise that all cultures are equal and all cultures have an equal amount to contribute to the world -- that's utter hogwash! The reason my ancestors came to this country as immigrants, and the reason your immigrants -- ancestors came to this country as immigrants is because of the great enterprise created by White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants. It is the greatest country ever created in the world. It is built upon the best -- the best of the White, Anglo-Saxon world.I donestly didnt know who he was. I found most of this out just googling him and if this is what this dude is like...... Count me out, too racist for my tastes.
I also found out about a fellow named Jim David Adkisson when looking up Mr. Savage. Anyone read about this case?
Have a listen to him. 4 minutes. Much better than a single paragraph.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTvHCGpgYY
When I lived in CaliforniCA I would sometimes listen to him.
Hes the get it done now, dont wait, dont think, you know its right guy for the right, like many left leaders, very aggressive.
He does personal attacks, like the left leaning leaders do, I think hes somewhat fringe, just like Farrakhan et al.
Hes not racist tho, just totally committed to the American ethos, which is as it was, not what some want, therefore the comparisons, which there are many on the left, to him
Hes the get it done now, dont wait, dont think, you know its right guy for the right, like many left leaders, very aggressive.
He does personal attacks, like the left leaning leaders do, I think hes somewhat fringe, just like Farrakhan et al.
Hes not racist tho, just totally committed to the American ethos, which is as it was, not what some want, therefore the comparisons, which there are many on the left, to him
musical marv
April 17, 2012 3:26:51 AM
JAYDEEJOHN said:
When I lived in CaliforniCA I would sometimes listen to him.Hes the get it done now, dont wait, dont think, you know its right guy for the right, like many left leaders, very aggressive.
He does personal attacks, like the left leaning leaders do, I think hes somewhat fringe, just like Farrakhan et al.
Hes not racist tho, just totally committed to the American ethos, which is as it was, not what some want, therefore the comparisons, which there are many on the left, to him
Again, like many on the left, as they do what he does.
Omitting him from the right is tattamount to doing so for many on the left, and Im not so sure some would want this, either way.
Me, I could live without him, as well as the many on the left.
Hes never said he owns his wife either, and I dont know about this abortion, but what would you do?
She wants it, you dont?
When it comes to people like this, whom I dont pay much attention to, Id start out be very wary of what Im hearing, and where those things come from.
The media, alot is paid for by foreign sources, non American, to which most conservatives ideals thrive, therefore its no surprise that almost all in the media has a particular slant, and even worse when it comes to certain people.
Look up George Soros, see how much money hes spent creating and supporting many many people just like Savage, just with a more liberal socialistic ideal.
Whats funny is, watching say media matters go after Fox or some conservative, complaining of Koch this, or Murdoch that, when its all george, where they wont even make acknowledgements of his generous contributions, hiding them.
Why hide?
Omitting him from the right is tattamount to doing so for many on the left, and Im not so sure some would want this, either way.
Me, I could live without him, as well as the many on the left.
Hes never said he owns his wife either, and I dont know about this abortion, but what would you do?
She wants it, you dont?
When it comes to people like this, whom I dont pay much attention to, Id start out be very wary of what Im hearing, and where those things come from.
The media, alot is paid for by foreign sources, non American, to which most conservatives ideals thrive, therefore its no surprise that almost all in the media has a particular slant, and even worse when it comes to certain people.
Look up George Soros, see how much money hes spent creating and supporting many many people just like Savage, just with a more liberal socialistic ideal.
Whats funny is, watching say media matters go after Fox or some conservative, complaining of Koch this, or Murdoch that, when its all george, where they wont even make acknowledgements of his generous contributions, hiding them.
Why hide?
gropouce
April 17, 2012 11:46:53 AM
wanamingo
April 17, 2012 12:05:07 PM
Oldmangamer_73 said:
Have a listen to him. 4 minutes. Much better than a single paragraph.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoTvHCGpgYY
I dont really care if he followed that up with a cure for cancer. Sounds like poison.
Yes gropouce I must agree.
He is a uneducated racist tool.
As a psychologist who has worked with clients with even a mild form of autism like HFA (Asbergers) I can tell you the effects on the person are significant.
Any person who tries to claim those with autism of any form are just naughty is simply an idiot, and not worthy of further discussion.
Hows the French elections coming along?
Start a thread on it and keep us up to date on it?
He is a uneducated racist tool.
As a psychologist who has worked with clients with even a mild form of autism like HFA (Asbergers) I can tell you the effects on the person are significant.
Any person who tries to claim those with autism of any form are just naughty is simply an idiot, and not worthy of further discussion.
Hows the French elections coming along?
Start a thread on it and keep us up to date on it?
Oldmangamer_73
April 17, 2012 12:50:10 PM
wanamingo
April 17, 2012 1:29:32 PM
Oldmangamer_73
April 17, 2012 1:36:28 PM
I find it hard to believe anyone with a PhD would make such a comment about autistic people.
Maybe it was one of those "honourary" PhD's ... of did he pay for it like this guy ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361358/Gaddafi...
Maybe it was one of those "honourary" PhD's ... of did he pay for it like this guy ...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1361358/Gaddafi...
Oldmangamer_73
April 17, 2012 1:54:28 PM
The site worked ok for me rey.
Apparently he has a bachelors and two master's degress along with the PhD.
After graduating from Jamaica High School in 1958,[16][17] Weiner attended Queens College, where he earned a bachelor's degree in biology in 1963.[13] After college Weiner taught high school for several years in New York City. His first marriage to Carol Ely in 1964 ended in divorce, and he remarried after meeting his current wife Janet in 1967. His first wife says that she became pregnant twice and aborted both pregnancies over Weiner's objections.[1] During this time Weiner also worked for famous psychedelic drug advocate Timothy Leary as keeper of the stone gatehouse on Leary's Millbrook estate. Leary hired him to the post because Weiner did not use LSD himself.[1] Weiner then earned two master's degrees in ethnobotany and anthropology from the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine.[18] His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.[
I would almost argue he was over educated. LOL!
Apparently he has a bachelors and two master's degress along with the PhD.
After graduating from Jamaica High School in 1958,[16][17] Weiner attended Queens College, where he earned a bachelor's degree in biology in 1963.[13] After college Weiner taught high school for several years in New York City. His first marriage to Carol Ely in 1964 ended in divorce, and he remarried after meeting his current wife Janet in 1967. His first wife says that she became pregnant twice and aborted both pregnancies over Weiner's objections.[1] During this time Weiner also worked for famous psychedelic drug advocate Timothy Leary as keeper of the stone gatehouse on Leary's Millbrook estate. Leary hired him to the post because Weiner did not use LSD himself.[1] Weiner then earned two master's degrees in ethnobotany and anthropology from the University of Hawaii at Manoa. He obtained a Ph.D. in 1978 from the University of California, Berkeley, in nutritional ethnomedicine.[18] His thesis was titled Nutritional Ethnomedicine in Fiji.[
I would almost argue he was over educated. LOL!
brentkhack
April 17, 2012 1:55:10 PM
Savage being a conservative at UC Berkley, I am sure he had to earn his degree's. I see nothing wrong with what he said about "autistic" people. Parent's do not want to be parents like that did years ago. So they just drug them up to shut them up. Now I will agree that there are those who are truely autistic and I am sadden by that. But it is time to go old school on these kids and teach them how to deal with life, just like they use to. No more liberal make you feel good crap. You must earn everything in life, not take it or given it to you.
brentkhack
April 17, 2012 2:14:08 PM
musical marv said:
.Did you know his wife had an abortion? He was the one advocating against abortions in the first place.He is a loud mouth and also he is somewhat against minorities also.He slanders Obama to much and that to me is dead wrong.He hates Liberals completely and distorts the facts about them.My wife and I don't agree all the time either, that is just normal. Somewhat against minorities, like how? He says his mind against all Dems and GOP. Do you even listen to his show? If so you would know that. Yes saying something that is different than the POTUS so dead wrong. How Commie of you to think that way. What facts against liberals does he distort?
wanamingo said:
Is this the same Micheal Savage that said this:Quote:
Now, the illness du jour is autism. You know what autism is? I'll tell you what autism is. In 99 percent of the cases, it's a brat who hasn't been told to cut the act out. That's what autism is. What do you mean they scream and they're silent? They don't have a father around to tell them, "Don't act like a moron. You'll get nowhere in life. Stop acting like a putz. Straighten up. Act like a man. Don't sit there crying and screaming, idiot."No medical background, but a brief survey of autism sites say that rates are around 20 per 1000 children (mostly male) or 1 out of 500. Yet the last public service announcement I heard on Armed Forces Network said the chance of your child being diagnosed with autism is 1 out of 166, a far different rate. (Because AFN Radio does not do commercials, they do lots of PSA's.)
wanamingo said:
Quote:
Multiculturalism has completely failed America. It is a disaster, an unmitigated disaster. Multiculturalism -- as a premise that all cultures are equal and all cultures have an equal amount to contribute to the world -- that's utter hogwash! The reason my ancestors came to this country as immigrants, and the reason your immigrants -- ancestors came to this country as immigrants is because of the great enterprise created by White, Anglo-Saxon Protestants. It is the greatest country ever created in the world. It is built upon the best -- the best of the White, Anglo-Saxon world.I fully agree with the basic premise of the quote. I just think that he goes off the rails with his explanation.
There are, after all, a lot of holes in the theory of multiculturism.
wanamingo
April 17, 2012 6:39:06 PM
I don't understand how some can support what this guy is saying. I mean jsc for christ sake he said 99% of the cases. This isnt some objective observation or a critique of autism and aspergers identification. He straight up said most cases are just kids not having someone say "Don't act like a moron". He said nothing about the rates.
And for the multiculturalism quote. Where to begin....... First off do we know what multiculturalism means? Teaching kids that there are other cultures and ideas will make them more tolerant and adaptable to change. I also remember hearing something about America being a melting pot? Maybe something about a nation of immigrants? Could someone expand on how multiculturalism is destroying (Or has destroyed) America? JSC? Brent?
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
And for the multiculturalism quote. Where to begin....... First off do we know what multiculturalism means? Teaching kids that there are other cultures and ideas will make them more tolerant and adaptable to change. I also remember hearing something about America being a melting pot? Maybe something about a nation of immigrants? Could someone expand on how multiculturalism is destroying (Or has destroyed) America? JSC? Brent?
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
Oldmangamer_73
April 17, 2012 8:26:45 PM
To be fair, he isn't the only one who thinks multiculturalism is a failure. Angela Merkel, Nick Sarkozy, and David Cameron have pretty much come out and declared it a disaster for their countries.
The main reason being lack of assimilation into the existing culture by immigrants. This creates a sense or perception of two different countries existing inside the same borders, and creates a divide among the people.
The main reason being lack of assimilation into the existing culture by immigrants. This creates a sense or perception of two different countries existing inside the same borders, and creates a divide among the people.
brentkhack
April 17, 2012 8:52:53 PM
wanamingo said:
I don't understand how some can support what this guy is saying. I mean jsc for christ sake he said 99% of the cases. This isnt some objective observation or a critique of autism and aspergers identification. He straight up said most cases are just kids not having someone say "Don't act like a moron". He said nothing about the rates. And for the multiculturalism quote. Where to begin....... First off do we know what multiculturalism means? Teaching kids that there are other cultures and ideas will make them more tolerant and adaptable to change. I also remember hearing something about America being a melting pot? Maybe something about a nation of immigrants? Could someone expand on how multiculturalism is destroying (Or has destroyed) America? JSC? Brent?
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
He wants all people that live here to be Americans. Not these small pockets of individules that separate themself from the rest the U.S. They must assimilate to our culture, not the other way around. When in Rome do what the Romans do, right? Everyone must keep their heritage going strong while adjusting to our ways. I don't know if it makes me a bad person, but it is kinda like when a liberal from lets say California or NY moves here in Texas. They move from there because of the bad conditions from the liberal policies. So now they get to enjoy conservative policies and a thriving job market while keeping their liberal views to spread around. I just think that is weird. I joke with my liberal friend from Florida and said he needs to move here in Texas but isn't allowed to vote, haa haa.
I disagree, teaching kids about multiculturalism is a waste, unless theyre already exposed to it, as it simply doesnt apply in their lives, until it does.
More important, and it doesnt cost any money, is having parents instill that differences are OK, and sometimes really cool, like mom saying this Mexican meal was given to me by a co worker who is Mexican heritage, and its been handed down etc.
This waste of time and money is better spent elsewheres
If it cant be seen, and isnt used, what good is it?
As for uplifting the American dream, and admitting the US is a great country, maybe they should go back to that.
We see an imbalance here, push MC, slam mistakes the US has done in the past, and all pushed by a certain mindset, one thats cost us money, and act as if this wouldnt happen unless we spend that money, and leaves us with an attempt at guilt, which again, wont apply to most, as it just isnt in them to do or feel this way
More important, and it doesnt cost any money, is having parents instill that differences are OK, and sometimes really cool, like mom saying this Mexican meal was given to me by a co worker who is Mexican heritage, and its been handed down etc.
This waste of time and money is better spent elsewheres
If it cant be seen, and isnt used, what good is it?
As for uplifting the American dream, and admitting the US is a great country, maybe they should go back to that.
We see an imbalance here, push MC, slam mistakes the US has done in the past, and all pushed by a certain mindset, one thats cost us money, and act as if this wouldnt happen unless we spend that money, and leaves us with an attempt at guilt, which again, wont apply to most, as it just isnt in them to do or feel this way
wanamingo said:
I don't understand how some can support what this guy is saying. I mean jsc for christ sake he said 99% of the cases. This isnt some objective observation or a critique of autism and aspergers identification. He straight up said most cases are just kids not having someone say "Don't act like a moron". He said nothing about the rates. I said I was medically unqualified to write much on autism. I also know that it is diagnosed much more frequently than when I was growing up. That is good, I guess, because that seems to indicate that we know more about it. I also said up at the beginning of the thread that I do not agree with everything he says.
wanamingo said:
And for the multiculturalism quote. Where to begin....... First off do we know what multiculturalism means? Teaching kids that there are other cultures and ideas will make them more tolerant and adaptable to change. I also remember hearing something about America being a melting pot? Maybe something about a nation of immigrants? Could someone expand on how multiculturalism is destroying (Or has destroyed) America? JSC? Brent?
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
From wikipedia:
Quote:
Multiculturalism is an ideology that promotes the institutionalisation of communities containing multiple cultures. It is generally applied to the demographic make-up of a specific place, usually at the organizational level, e.g. schools, businesses, neighbourhoods, cities, or nations.
In a political context the term is used for a wide variety of meanings, ranging from the advocacy of equal respect to the various cultures in a society, to a policy of promoting the maintenance of cultural diversity, to policies in which people of various ethnic and religious groups are addressed by the authorities as defined by the group they belong to.[1][2] A common aspect of many such policies is that they avoid presenting any specific ethnic, religious, or cultural community values as central.[3]
I am not a multiculturalist.
Do I think we can learn from other cultures? Of course.
Do I think all other cultures are of equal value. No. But some are great as bad examples.
Nazism is a culture. So was the pre-Civil War South and its slavery.
And yes, the U.S. is a nation of immigrants. And with one exception, the main goal is assimilation. I'm not including Blacks here, because many weren't ... volunteers. But even for them, things are getting better. We have a long way to go, but many of us are trying.
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A common aspect of many such policies is that they avoid presenting any specific ethnic, religious, or cultural community values as central.Here's another problem I have. As a native, I am apparently supposed to suppress elements of my culture to avoid offending others. I think there is something wrong with that. For example, I do not think an anti-Semitic White Supremacy group deserves the same consideration as that friendly Jewish family three houses down.
wanamingo said:
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
Disagree. That is not a function of multiculturalism. That is the normal path of any society. We are just more concerned with saving what we can and we have , so far, the extra resources to spend doing it.
Oldmangamer_73 said:
To be fair, he isn't the only one who thinks multiculturalism is a failure. Angela Merkel, Nick Sarkozy, and David Cameron have pretty much come out and declared it a disaster for their countries.The main reason being lack of assimilation into the existing culture by immigrants. This creates a sense or perception of two different countries existing inside the same borders, and creates a divide among the people.
Let's just come out and say the "M" word.
And lest you think I am being racist or Islamophobic, google "muslim malmo sweden" to see where Europe is going.
wanamingo
April 18, 2012 12:28:09 PM
Has anyone heard about the case of Jim David Adkisson?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/jim-d-adkisson...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/jim-d-adkisson...
Oldmangamer_73
April 18, 2012 12:34:44 PM
wanamingo said:
Has anyone heard about the case of Jim David Adkisson?http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/07/28/jim-d-adkisson...
A tragedy for sure, but what does it have to do with Savage?
And note the gratuitous military slam in the last paragraph:
"Adkisson, who faces his next court hearing Aug. 5, was on active duty with the Army beginning in 1974. Army records show he was a helicopter repairman, rising from a private to specialist and then returning to private before being discharged in late 1977."
JNap was right. Over three decades and we former military service people are still a danger to society.
"Adkisson, who faces his next court hearing Aug. 5, was on active duty with the Army beginning in 1974. Army records show he was a helicopter repairman, rising from a private to specialist and then returning to private before being discharged in late 1977."
JNap was right. Over three decades and we former military service people are still a danger to society.
Oldmangamer_73
April 18, 2012 1:17:51 PM
musical marv
April 19, 2012 3:12:01 AM
brentkhack
June 1, 2012 12:29:50 AM
wanamingo said:
I don't understand how some can support what this guy is saying. I mean jsc for christ sake he said 99% of the cases. This isnt some objective observation or a critique of autism and aspergers identification. He straight up said most cases are just kids not having someone say "Don't act like a moron". He said nothing about the rates. And for the multiculturalism quote. Where to begin....... First off do we know what multiculturalism means? Teaching kids that there are other cultures and ideas will make them more tolerant and adaptable to change. I also remember hearing something about America being a melting pot? Maybe something about a nation of immigrants? Could someone expand on how multiculturalism is destroying (Or has destroyed) America? JSC? Brent?
Multiculturalism has only one downside as far as im concerned and that's a watering down of language and culture. Some of the smallest cultural groups will be extinct in the next decade, no one speaking the language, practicing traditions etc.
Savage always believes in three thing for the USA. Borders, language, and culture. So it looks like you agree with at least two things needed to define the U.S.
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