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Today I was browsing around [H] for tech news, & came across a piece on water cooling through electro-osmosis. It was an interesting read. The idea of a system being cooled by a completely silent system seemed intriguing, however that person at the end of the article did make a good point about the potential hazzards of mixing water & electricity.

So I began to wonder whether it was possible to engineer & perhaps even build ourselves a completely silent air-cooled system?


A couple weeks or months ago, I remember reading a piece on [H] about something called "lifters". As some of you might already know, these were small lightweight crafts that would "hover" in the air when electricity was passed through it.

People then began theorizing on exactly how these things worked. They talked about all sorts of bizzare things ranging from an "anti-gravitational" force, to some kind of inter-dimentional form of movement or some such.

And then someone from NASA came forth & did a couple of experiments himself on whether any of these theories were true, or whether it was simply as he had suspected all along, that it was hovering by using air itself. He placed a lifter inside a transparent vacume cylinder/box, & turned the current on. If all the theories were right, the lifter should lift, regardless of whether there was air or not. If the NASA person was right however, it wouldn't twitch at all.

After the current was switched on, the lifter didn't move or twitch one bit. It just sat there. So then, lifters were able to hover, because it "pushed" air down much like a hovercraft or a helicopter would. He even put his hand under one & "felt" the air moving.


So as you can probably imagine, it could possibly be used to cool a processor or whatever else a system had. Unfortunatly I don't have a clue on exactly how much power these things would need, or exactly how much thrust it would produce, but do you think it could be done?

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I have an idea for a more effective force. It's called convection. As in, warm air rising due to expansion=decreased density. It works well, you just need a large enough heatsink, preferably with enough space between the fins to allow aire to move freely under extremely low pressure differential.

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Reply to Grub

Lest we forget Michalangelo's convection powered engine.

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Reply to Crashman

You could probably get a simple phase-change system to run pretty near silently. Admittedly it would be large.

Heck sure, if you make a heatsink large enough it wouldn't need a fan. I could make you a completely silent heat exchange system for under $100 right now but it would be frickin huge!


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Reply to knowan

Ack, completely forgot about this thread heh :D.

Well all thats good & fine really, but wouldn't it be awesome if we had another <A HREF="http://jnaudin.free.fr/lifters/main.htm" target="_new">alternative</A> in addition to the existing varities?

I suppose it might sound a little "out there", so instead of having air thrusted downwards directly, maybe it could be made to <A HREF="http://jlnlabs.imars.com/lifters/videos/rotolift.rm" target="_new">propel fan blades</A> instead?

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Reply to Woodman

Just mount a "heat engine" to your CPU and use it to generate power to supplement what it uses.

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So you're talking about a phase change substance that turns a turbine when it's converted to gas? Possible but bulkey and you'd have to figure out what to do with the extra electricity. Send it to your PSU? Perhaps run your case fans? That would be kind neat because your case fans wouldn't turn on unless the CPU gets hot enough to turn the turbine. As the CPU gets hotter the turbine spins faster and the case fans get more juice and also spin faster.

Of course you could use a phase change system and instead of having the gas turn a turbine have it turn a fan to cool the gas back down to a liquid.

That lifter thing is kinda neat but it wouldn't work for a HSL (Heat Sink and Lifter). The lifter simply uses up too much juice. the small models that they had on demonstration used up as much electricity as a monitor. Plus those small tinfoil and balsa wood models wouldn't be sturdy enough to use in PC's sold comercially.

Is there a way to get heat to generate electricity directly without first having it convert something to a gas? Something like a peltier that generates electricity when heated instead of using electricity to cool/heat. A reverse peltier if you will?

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Reply to knowan

Here's someone who built a home made phase change CPU cooler <A HREF="http://www.benchtest.com/heat_pipe1.html" target="_new">http://www.benchtest.com/heat_pipe1.html</A>.

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Reply to knowan

There's the infamous heat engine, you should look it up, it operates on differential temperature.

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Reply to Crashman

I've seen these things many times, they're called heat pipes and operate on the same priciple as those giant cooling towers at nuclear power plants. Refrigerators/air conditioners also works on the principle of evaporation/condensation, only use a compressor to increase their power (compress a gas, condense it to liquid, release the pressure in the evaporator). Wheras heatpipes use no compressor and rely on boiling the liquid.

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