Hotroding a Gateway machine?

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Hi all,

I have a Gateway LP Mini Tower TB3 Essential 450 (0016980229).
I would like to put more ram in it and change the cpu to the fastest
that will reliably work in it. So my questions are:

1. Is there any reason to get PC133 speed ram for this motherboad?
2. What is the fastest cpu that I can put in it?

I think the current configuration is Slot1 P3 450MHz and one stick
of 64M SDRAM PC100 with two open slots.

thanks,
charles.....
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  1. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Charles,

    You definitely will benefit from more RAM. Crucial.com will let you
    find the right type for your board and the max capacity.

    Your board will run PC133 at 100 FBS, so faster RAM is not an option,
    but more RAM is the way to go.

    As for processors, you have lots of options depending what you need it
    to do and how much $$ you want to put into this old system. You will
    need to do some homework to get the best deal and be sure of what is
    compatible with your particular model. Slot1 P3 100FBS Coppermine
    processors go up to 1 GHz. With a $10 socket adapter you can use socket
    370 100 FBS Coppermine processors either P3 or Celeron which are cheaper
    and more available and go up to 1.1 GHz. But be careful, you need a
    special adapter (like Lin-Lin or Upgradeware) to use Tualatin core
    processors. The top end for you would be a 1.4 GHz Celeron (100 FBS
    Tualatin) and this would probably require an adapter with a built-in
    power supply to overcome your motherboard's power and voltage
    limitations. Powerleap.com sells them. Be sure to check your model's
    compatibility.

    But don't over do the upgrading unless you have a good reason to be tied
    to that motherboard as it will still be an old system with many
    limitations, and a newer used system might give you more bang for the buck.

    Bruce

    ***** charles wrote:

    > Hi all,
    >
    > I have a Gateway LP Mini Tower TB3 Essential 450 (0016980229).
    > I would like to put more ram in it and change the cpu to the fastest
    > that will reliably work in it. So my questions are:
    >
    > 1. Is there any reason to get PC133 speed ram for this motherboad?
    > 2. What is the fastest cpu that I can put in it?
    >
    > I think the current configuration is Slot1 P3 450MHz and one stick
    > of 64M SDRAM PC100 with two open slots.
    >
    > thanks,
    > charles.....
    >
    >
    >
  2. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    Oh, and I forgot the disclaimers inherent in "Hotroding": your system
    was not designed for processors faster than about 600 MHz, so you may
    need additional cooling, a bigger power supply, heat sinks etc.

    Bruce Gaylinn wrote:
    > Charles,
    >
    > You definitely will benefit from more RAM. Crucial.com will let you
    > find the right type for your board and the max capacity.
    >
    > Your board will run PC133 at 100 FBS, so faster RAM is not an option,
    > but more RAM is the way to go.
    >
    > As for processors, you have lots of options depending what you need it
    > to do and how much $$ you want to put into this old system. You will
    > need to do some homework to get the best deal and be sure of what is
    > compatible with your particular model. Slot1 P3 100FBS Coppermine
    > processors go up to 1 GHz. With a $10 socket adapter you can use socket
    > 370 100 FBS Coppermine processors either P3 or Celeron which are cheaper
    > and more available and go up to 1.1 GHz. But be careful, you need a
    > special adapter (like Lin-Lin or Upgradeware) to use Tualatin core
    > processors. The top end for you would be a 1.4 GHz Celeron (100 FBS
    > Tualatin) and this would probably require an adapter with a built-in
    > power supply to overcome your motherboard's power and voltage
    > limitations. Powerleap.com sells them. Be sure to check your model's
    > compatibility.
    >
    > But don't over do the upgrading unless you have a good reason to be tied
    > to that motherboard as it will still be an old system with many
    > limitations, and a newer used system might give you more bang for the buck.
    >
    > Bruce
    >
    > ***** charles wrote:
    >
    >> Hi all,
    >>
    >> I have a Gateway LP Mini Tower TB3 Essential 450 (0016980229).
    >> I would like to put more ram in it and change the cpu to the fastest
    >> that will reliably work in it. So my questions are:
    >>
    >> 1. Is there any reason to get PC133 speed ram for this motherboad?
    >> 2. What is the fastest cpu that I can put in it?
    >>
    >> I think the current configuration is Slot1 P3 450MHz and one stick
    >> of 64M SDRAM PC100 with two open slots.
    >>
    >> thanks,
    >> charles.....
    >>
    >>
    >>
  3. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    You can get a new computer for about $400 to $500 which might not be all
    that much more than "hotrodding" as you put it. Or you could go to a place
    like NewEgg.Com and price a new motherboard, cpu, memory which might be
    faster yet and in the same price range (I saw an AMD 64 byte processer group
    for >$500).
    "Bruce Gaylinn" <bg2g@XvirginiaX.XeduX> wrote in message
    news:cu0n6m$19f$1@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU...
    > Oh, and I forgot the disclaimers inherent in "Hotroding": your system was
    > not designed for processors faster than about 600 MHz, so you may need
    > additional cooling, a bigger power supply, heat sinks etc.
    >
    > Bruce Gaylinn wrote:
    >> Charles,
    >>
    >> You definitely will benefit from more RAM. Crucial.com will let you find
    >> the right type for your board and the max capacity.
    >>
    >> Your board will run PC133 at 100 FBS, so faster RAM is not an option, but
    >> more RAM is the way to go.
    >>
    >> As for processors, you have lots of options depending what you need it to
    >> do and how much $$ you want to put into this old system. You will need
    >> to do some homework to get the best deal and be sure of what is
    >> compatible with your particular model. Slot1 P3 100FBS Coppermine
    >> processors go up to 1 GHz. With a $10 socket adapter you can use socket
    >> 370 100 FBS Coppermine processors either P3 or Celeron which are cheaper
    >> and more available and go up to 1.1 GHz. But be careful, you need a
    >> special adapter (like Lin-Lin or Upgradeware) to use Tualatin core
    >> processors. The top end for you would be a 1.4 GHz Celeron (100 FBS
    >> Tualatin) and this would probably require an adapter with a built-in
    >> power supply to overcome your motherboard's power and voltage
    >> limitations. Powerleap.com sells them. Be sure to check your model's
    >> compatibility.
    >>
    >> But don't over do the upgrading unless you have a good reason to be tied
    >> to that motherboard as it will still be an old system with many
    >> limitations, and a newer used system might give you more bang for the
    >> buck.
    >>
    >> Bruce
    >>
    >> ***** charles wrote:
    >>
    >>> Hi all,
    >>>
    >>> I have a Gateway LP Mini Tower TB3 Essential 450 (0016980229).
    >>> I would like to put more ram in it and change the cpu to the fastest
    >>> that will reliably work in it. So my questions are:
    >>>
    >>> 1. Is there any reason to get PC133 speed ram for this motherboad?
    >>> 2. What is the fastest cpu that I can put in it?
    >>>
    >>> I think the current configuration is Slot1 P3 450MHz and one stick
    >>> of 64M SDRAM PC100 with two open slots.
    >>>
    >>> thanks,
    >>> charles.....
    >>>
    >>>
    >>>
  4. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    You can use a PowerLeap adapter with a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU; that's as
    fast as you can get.

    Unfortunately, it'll run you $100 - or about $25 more than the entire
    system is worth at resale.

    The RAM can be PC133 but MUST be low density (16 chips/256M, 16X8).
    High-density RAM (most cheap RAM is high density) will not work.

    I'd be careful about dropping $200 or more into this system - it's not
    worth that.


    ***** charles wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    > I have a Gateway LP Mini Tower TB3 Essential 450 (0016980229).
    > I would like to put more ram in it and change the cpu to the fastest
    > that will reliably work in it. So my questions are:
    >
    > 1. Is there any reason to get PC133 speed ram for this motherboad?
    > 2. What is the fastest cpu that I can put in it?
    >
    > I think the current configuration is Slot1 P3 450MHz and one stick
    > of 64M SDRAM PC100 with two open slots.
    >
    > thanks,
    > charles.....
    >
    >
    >
  5. Archived from groups: alt.sys.pc-clone.gateway2000 (More info?)

    "Edward J. Neth" <ejn63@netscape.net> wrote in message
    news:xzSMd.597$hU7.107@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com...
    > You can use a PowerLeap adapter with a 1.4 GHz Celeron CPU; that's as
    > fast as you can get.
    >
    > Unfortunately, it'll run you $100 - or about $25 more than the entire
    > system is worth at resale.
    >
    > The RAM can be PC133 but MUST be low density (16 chips/256M, 16X8).
    > High-density RAM (most cheap RAM is high density) will not work.
    >
    > I'd be careful about dropping $200 or more into this system - it's not
    > worth that.
    >


    I agree. I recently picked up a used OEM machine with the following specs
    for less than $200:

    1GHz/256mbRDRAM/40gb HDD/8X CDRW/64mb GeForce3 video card/SBLive PCI audio
    card/3Com hardware modem, and 3Com NIC.

    Bought another used P4 OEM with WinXP and Office 2003 loaded up for less
    than $300.

    I wouldn't put too much into a PIII generation machine. I'd either take
    that money and move up to a newer faster used system, or to a brand new
    entry or mid-level OEM box.


    Stew
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