I am Back and Doom 3 is really a flop

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the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a disappointment
I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
it really is a joke
on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play

$54 I feel cheated
I would take it back If I could

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[Eric]

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And this quote says it all:

"It's only fair to evaluate this release on the basis of what it's trying to
achieve, as an updated version of the Doom series, and not on the basis of
recent convolutions in the genre. In a satisfying way, Doom 3 brings the
first-person shooter back to its roots, returning it to the simple, direct
gameplay that spawned this category of games over ten years ago. Rejecting
pressure from pseudo-sophisticated snobs who want to graft on artificial
complexities that have been so trendy in recent computer action titles, Doom
3 is a far cry from the pattern of the latest shooters, and to me, that's a
real blessing."

"FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> wrote in message
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> the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
disappointment
> I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
> it really is a joke
> on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
>
> $54 I feel cheated
> I would take it back If I could
>
> --
> killin@u.com
>
>

 

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:05:25 -0400, "FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com>
wrote:

>the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a disappointment
>I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
>it really is a joke
>on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
>
>$54 I feel cheated
>I would take it back If I could


You trying to compare it to a multiplayer tournament FPS.
Quake 3, and Doom 3 are totaly different. I think Doom 3 shines as a
single player, or coop multiplayer game. That's the way I feel.

 

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I've only played it a little, but enjoy it so far. I got into multi-player
to poke around the maps and test my setup and the next thing I knew I was
being shot at

Because I'm too lazy to check myself, can someone tell me if you can play
against the monsters in multi-player?

Gary





"Larry Roberts" <skin-e@juno.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:05:25 -0400, "FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com>
> wrote:
>
> >the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
disappointment
> >I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
> >it really is a joke
> >on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
> >
> >$54 I feel cheated
> >I would take it back If I could
>
>
> You trying to compare it to a multiplayer tournament FPS.
> Quake 3, and Doom 3 are totaly different. I think Doom 3 shines as a
> single player, or coop multiplayer game. That's the way I feel.

 

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"Eric" <Eric@nospam.com> wrote in message
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> And this quote says it all:

<snip>

LOL, in other words. "Don't evaluate it on the basis of whether or not it's
a fun game. Consider its historical contribution in returning us to a
simpler era".

Sorry, but I don't stop to put my evaluations into a historical context
before I evaluate a game. I play it and ask myself a simple question: "Am I
having fun". Pretty simple criteria and full of rich subtlety and nuance,
capable of being satisfied by the simplest of technologies and designs. Like
Obscenity, I cannot define it, but I know it when I see it.

And Doom3 ain't it. I returned my two copies for full-credit, credit-card
refunds at EBX.

--
Bob Perez

"Men do not quit playing because they grow old; they grow old because they
quit playing."
- Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes

 

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"Larry Roberts" <skin-e@juno.com> wrote in message
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> I think Doom 3 shines as a ... coop multiplayer game.

And which "coop" multiplayer mode are you talking about, exactly?
Deathmatch? Team Deathmatch? Last Man Standing? Or Tournament Spectator?

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quit playing."
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[bardman]

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Eric wrote:

> And this quote says it all:
>
> "It's only fair to evaluate this release on the basis of what it's trying to
> achieve, as an updated version of the Doom series, and not on the basis of
> recent convolutions in the genre. In a satisfying way, Doom 3 brings the
> first-person shooter back to its roots, returning it to the simple, direct
> gameplay that spawned this category of games over ten years ago. Rejecting
> pressure from pseudo-sophisticated snobs who want to graft on artificial
> complexities that have been so trendy in recent computer action titles, Doom
> 3 is a far cry from the pattern of the latest shooters, and to me, that's a
> real blessing."
>
> "FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> wrote in message
> news:FKWdncd-x7Wd277cRVn-ow@comcast.com...
>
>>the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
>
> disappointment
>
>>I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
>>it really is a joke
>>on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
>>
>>$54 I feel cheated
>>I would take it back If I could
>>
>>--
>>killin@u.com
>>
>>
>
>
>
i ordered doom 3, 3 years ago and put money down I like it and you know
what,I dont feel cheated its great but people like you shouldn't play
games by your name maybe you should change to something like sesamee street.

 

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:06:47 -0400, "Eric" <Eric@nospam.com> wrote:

>And this quote says it all:
>
>"It's only fair to evaluate this release on the basis of what it's trying to
>achieve, as an updated version of the Doom series, and not on the basis of
>recent convolutions in the genre. In a satisfying way, Doom 3 brings the
>first-person shooter back to its roots, returning it to the simple, direct
>gameplay that spawned this category of games over ten years ago. Rejecting
>pressure from pseudo-sophisticated snobs who want to graft on artificial
>complexities that have been so trendy in recent computer action titles, Doom
>3 is a far cry from the pattern of the latest shooters, and to me, that's a
>real blessing."


Note the Freudian slip by the reviewer in the last sentence. Words #4
and #5.

Seems as if there is one game out there in the market genuinely
trying to move the FPS genre along and another looking back over the
shoulder. Not difficult to discern which is which. EA has just
completed an agreement with the creators of the forward looking
one to develop a new class of FPS.

HL2 is likely to fall somewhere in between the two current extremes.

John Lewis

 

[Les]

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Eric wrote:

> And this quote says it all:
>
> "It's only fair to evaluate this release on the basis of what it's trying to
> achieve, as an updated version of the Doom series, and not on the basis of
> recent convolutions in the genre. In a satisfying way, Doom 3 brings the
> first-person shooter back to its roots, returning it to the simple, direct
> gameplay that spawned this category of games over ten years ago. Rejecting
> pressure from pseudo-sophisticated snobs who want to graft on artificial
> complexities that have been so trendy in recent computer action titles, Doom
> 3 is a far cry from the pattern of the latest shooters, and to me, that's a
> real blessing."
>

That sounds like some tit being all trendy and going against the grain.
You can't change MY opinion by telling me what someone ELSE thinks of
the game. I did play og DOOM1+2 and QUAKE1+2 etc etc. Its not even on a
par with Half-Life gameplay wise, again in my opinion.


--
Les
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2x512 MB corsair platinum 3500
Gigabyte GA-K8VNXP
Leadtek A400 GT
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I feel the same way, the cost was to high for what you got.
The graphic are great when you can see them.
I like first person shooters but this is just boring.
I like Halo better.
"FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> wrote in message
news:FKWdncd-x7Wd277cRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
disappointment
> I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
> it really is a joke
> on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
>
> $54 I feel cheated
> I would take it back If I could
>
> --
> killin@u.com
>
>

 

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:05:25 -0400 "FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> meeped :

>
how many more times are you going to let us know ?
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john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) wrote:
> On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 09:06:47 -0400, "Eric" <Eric@nospam.com> wrote:
>
> >And this quote says it all:
> >
> >"It's only fair to evaluate this release on the basis of what it's trying to
> >achieve, as an updated version of the Doom series, and not on the basis of
> >recent convolutions in the genre. In a satisfying way, Doom 3 brings the
> >first-person shooter back to its roots, returning it to the simple, direct
> >gameplay that spawned this category of games over ten years ago. Rejecting
> >pressure from pseudo-sophisticated snobs who want to graft on artificial
> >complexities that have been so trendy in recent computer action titles, Doom
> >3 is a far cry from the pattern of the latest shooters, and to me, that's a
> >real blessing."
>
>
> Note the Freudian slip by the reviewer in the last sentence. Words #4
> and #5.

Good observation, John. The writer obviously works for classic game
magazines such as "TV-Guide".

 

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 13:47:11 -0400 "GTX_SlotCar" <deroy@maine.rr.com> meeped :

>My messages on this newsgroup only go back to July 25th, but I've noticed
>that all your posts and replies are complaining about Doom3. Not one thing
>about nVidia. You also post the same messages on the ati newsgroup. Isn't
>there a Doom newsgroup somewhere you can complain to? There are plenty of
>people that like this game.
>Here's what I think. I think this game scares you. Yeah, that's the ticket.
>It scares you so all you can do is complain about it.
>Just put it on eBay and you'll get 3/4's of your money back out of it and
>you can stop complaining.

He prolly hasn't even got it...or just got a rip
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My 2cents is that this is one of the more wicked games I've played. Don't
play this game if one has a weak heart or is afraid of the dark in any way.
Darkness and shadows plays an important role in this game; monsters jump out
at you at every opportunity from the darkness. Not sure what others might
have expected from a 'shooter' that sort was the original definition of
'shooters'...but I think it succeeds perfectly as the next level to Doom 2.
Certain elements remind me of SystemShock2 and Half Life...except it is
pretty much a straight forward shooter without a lot of 'strategic'
consideration. As I'm playing, I am wishing that it did have a role
playing element to it, or some sort of deeper plot where the character
interacts more [really would dig another System Shock kind of game]. But
then, it would not have been true to Doom2's 'personality' as a straight
forward 'shoot fest' and little else. But boy, what a rush when these
really creepy things come bounding at you from nowhere. Nah, I give Doom 3
a 'thumbs UP'. In fact, it provides more than I expected as it sets up the
'world' the space marine must negotiate. And you can't beat the graphics
[not this month anyway].

 

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> Note the Freudian slip by the reviewer in the last sentence. Words #4
> and #5.
>
> Seems as if there is one game out there in the market genuinely
> trying to move the FPS genre along and another looking back over the
> shoulder. Not difficult to discern which is which. EA has just
> completed an agreement with the creators of the forward looking
> one to develop a new class of FPS.
>
> HL2 is likely to fall somewhere in between the two current extremes.
>
> John Lewis
>

Hmm Far Cry was fun (and IMHO better than Doom3) but I don't think it
was that revolutionary, deus ex and HL are the franchises to watch for
innovation in the FPS world. I don't think we should judge HL2 before
it is released...

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It's not quite what I expected, but then again, I don't own a top-notch gpu
(yet).
But to give you some advise: turn off the light, set your sound-system to
'exiting' and enjoy it... I can.

One thing though... I can't understand why they let the monsters pop-in from
nowhere so many times. That's getting a bit annyoing. My personal opinion
offcourse. And maybe I just can't see them coming because of my inferior
little gpu (geforce4mx... can you imagine?).

revom


"FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> schreef in bericht
news:FKWdncd-x7Wd277cRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
disappointment
> I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
> it really is a joke
> on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
>
> $54 I feel cheated
> I would take it back If I could
>
> --
> killin@u.com
>
>

 

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On Wed, 18 Aug 2004 19:34:19 -0400, "Keanu" <NOSPAM@NOSPAM.NOSPAM>
wrote:

>They have to see the two headed monsters climb walls and
>rush towards you in full quality and framerate to feel like we do.

Well I wasn't going to get it but that's got me going

thanks key

 

[ken]

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I agree, it sure can make one jump when playing. I am very disapointed with
the multiplayer games though. I still get more enjoyment from the Unreal
and Quake series (big time CTF fan) or even Serious Sam for that matter..
bring on the multiplayer mods...
"revom" <leewrevom@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> It's not quite what I expected, but then again, I don't own a top-notch
gpu
> (yet).
> But to give you some advise: turn off the light, set your sound-system to
> 'exiting' and enjoy it... I can.
>
> One thing though... I can't understand why they let the monsters pop-in
from
> nowhere so many times. That's getting a bit annyoing. My personal opinion
> offcourse. And maybe I just can't see them coming because of my inferior
> little gpu (geforce4mx... can you imagine?).
>
> revom
>
>
> "FatDaddy" <KillinU@worm.com> schreef in bericht
> news:FKWdncd-x7Wd277cRVn-ow@comcast.com...
> > the more I play it and give it a try the more it is really a
> disappointment
> > I fell cheated I per ordered this a year in advance
> > it really is a joke
> > on a comparison quake 3 is 100% better game play
> >
> > $54 I feel cheated
> > I would take it back If I could
> >
> > --
> > killin@u.com
> >
> >
>
>
>