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Kerio Personal Firewall Discontinued

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Anonymous
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September 3, 2005 12:45:47 AM

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In article <MPG.1d8275ba6270b1ba9896b8@news.east.earthlink.net>,
casey@notspecified.net says...
> Kerio discontinued Dec. 31, 2005.
>
> http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&th=7040&start=0...
> cc6fa8dc15787d
>
> Casey
>

Yep, another one bites the dust.. In this case, I think they just
couldn't overcome their bad reputation on the product, so perhaps
decided to just dump it..

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Kerodo
Anonymous
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September 3, 2005 12:45:47 AM

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"Casey Klc" <casey@notspecified.net> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8275ba6270b1ba9896b8@news.east.earthlink.net...
> Kerio discontinued Dec. 31, 2005.
>
>
http://forums.kerio.com/index.php?t=msg&th=7040&start=0...
> cc6fa8dc15787d
>
> Casey

Well, I know that Tiny, which is no longer free,
is featuring, in its latest version, the ability to have
filtering rules by user. Tiny Personal Firewall
Professional, at $99, is the first firewall ever made,
hardware or software, that can create filteirng rules,
by user name. This is where Tiny will gain an edge
over hardware firewalls. No other firewall in the
world can filter by user name.
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Anonymous
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September 3, 2005 9:26:48 AM

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begin quotation
from Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@comcast.spamshield.net>
in message <1L-dnUMbOIroiITeRVn-vw@comcast.com>
posted at 2005-09-03T03:16
> Well, I know that Tiny, which is no longer free,
> is featuring, in its latest version, the ability to
> have filtering rules by user. Tiny Personal Firewall
> Professional, at $99, is the first firewall ever made,
> hardware or software, that can create filteirng rules, by
> user name.

Maybe the first one *for Windows* that can do this, but first one ever?
False. OpenBSD has been able to do this with pf since pf made it into
the source tree with 3.0; I think ipf (Darren Reed's non-free packet
filtering code) could do it as well. I'm not sure if iptables in the
Linux kernel can do this also, but I would think by now it can.

> This is where Tiny will gain an edge over hardware
> firewalls. No other firewall in the world can filter by
> user name.

False, see above, and please don't assume the entire world runs Windows.
Unix and its descendants have been around since prior to 1970.

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September 3, 2005 11:47:44 AM

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> Tiny Personal Firewall Professional, at $99,
> is the first firewall ever made, hardware or
> software, that can create filteirng rules,
> by user name.

Sorry, not true at all. Countless other firewalls provide this. Amongst
them is Kerio Winroute Firewall, a small business and enterprise network
firewall. Granted, not for only $99 though.

-Frank
Anonymous
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September 3, 2005 12:03:04 PM

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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@comcast.spamshield.net> wrote:
> Well, I know that Tiny, which is no longer free,
> is featuring, in its latest version, the ability to have
> filtering rules by user. Tiny Personal Firewall
> Professional, at $99, is the first firewall ever made,
> hardware or software, that can create filteirng rules,
> by user name. This is where Tiny will gain an edge
> over hardware firewalls. No other firewall in the
> world can filter by user name.

What is untrue of course. With the packet filters of every BSD or Linux
you can easily script that. Even with the ICF and Windows and three or
four lines of script you can do that.

Beside the fact, that this is not sensible, because filtering should not
be influenced by user usually. This is a concept flaw in most cases.

Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network servers in the
standard configuration. This makes Tiny unusable for Joe Average.

Tiny cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; it failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".

Tiny does not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.

And:

Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.

This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:

http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/en-us/dllproc/base/in...

For a software, which should enhance security, this design flow means the
declaration of bankruptcy.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
Anonymous
a b 8 Security
September 3, 2005 12:03:05 PM

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You have not been around long. You may find out more than you'll ever want
to know about Tiny. ;-)

Duane :) 
!