BFG 6800 Ultra - Machine rebooting / locking / suffering w..

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Try the CoolBits reg tweak as per the guys advice below! Worked a treat for
me!

2D is 400Mhz as default, Where as 3d is 425Mhz you need to make them both
the same!

Cheers,

Lee.
"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> Hi guys,
>
> Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>
> I have the following:
>
> INTEL D865PERL mobo
> P4 3ghz CPU
> 1GB RAM
> 480w PSU
> Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
> Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
> Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>
> I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
> sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the
mouse
> about the desktop.
>
> If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game
freezing.
> Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets
completely or
> I have have to hit reset myself.
>
> I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
> using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I
exit
> X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on
a
> black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
> reset.
>
> The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
> perfectly for 5 months.
>
> I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some
of my
> USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
> prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX
card
> but the problems remain.
>
> Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>
> Can anyone help please?
>
> * email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this
group.
>
> Thanks.

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Thanks for the replies guys..

I setup the cool*.reg file this morning.

Ive set the 2D / 3D clocks at 425 (I upped the 2D to 425 (originally it was
410) ).

I checked out my BIOS version and it is reported as: 5.40.02.15.11

After making the clocks the same, I went into Joint Operations, flew around in
a heli for ten mins and its still going horribly wrong. Glitches start
appearing all over the place (same for Battlefield Vietnam).

In the end I have to quit. The games become unplayable. Back at the desktop, if
I move my mouse around, I get white glitches flashing up over the desktop. As
soon as my mouse movements stop, the display seems "calm".

I have my suspicions over the USB also taking IRQ 16 (the same is used for the
6800). But with ACPI being installed in XP Pro, I cannot re-assign the IRQ
(even in safe mode). Ive even started using my mouse on the PS/2 port (still
the problems persist).

The card is still totally unusable. I cant believe they've released a card in
such poor shape. (No doubt rushed to market trying to get a foot in before
ATI).

Has anyone any other ideas please?








On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>
>I have the following:
>
>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>P4 3ghz CPU
>1GB RAM
>480w PSU
>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>
>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>about the desktop.
>
>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>I have have to hit reset myself.
>
>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>reset.
>
>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>perfectly for 5 months.
>
>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>but the problems remain.
>
>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>
>Can anyone help please?
>
>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>
>Thanks.

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I have the latest D865PERL BIOS flash. I updated it this morning (from Intel's
site).

At the moment I have the case lid off, all cards removed except the 6800 all on
its lonesome.

Just trying Joint Operations with my machine in a bare-bones state. Heat
perhaps?

I will report back....






On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 15:43:53 GMT, "W????n" <???????@???????.gov> wrote:

>
>"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:hbsri01tbptdov63lvag3o9ao9ppdok0gm@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the replies guys..
>>
>> I setup the cool*.reg file this morning.
>>
>> Ive set the 2D / 3D clocks at 425 (I upped the 2D to 425 (originally it
>was
>> 410) ).
>>
>> I checked out my BIOS version and it is reported as: 5.40.02.15.11
>>
>> After making the clocks the same, I went into Joint Operations, flew
>around in
>> a heli for ten mins and its still going horribly wrong. Glitches start
>> appearing all over the place (same for Battlefield Vietnam).
>>
>> In the end I have to quit. The games become unplayable. Back at the
>desktop, if
>> I move my mouse around, I get white glitches flashing up over the desktop.
>As
>> soon as my mouse movements stop, the display seems "calm".
>>
>> I have my suspicions over the USB also taking IRQ 16 (the same is used for
>the
>> 6800). But with ACPI being installed in XP Pro, I cannot re-assign the IRQ
>> (even in safe mode). Ive even started using my mouse on the PS/2 port
>(still
>> the problems persist).
>>
>> The card is still totally unusable. I cant believe they've released a card
>in
>> such poor shape. (No doubt rushed to market trying to get a foot in before
>> ATI).
>>
>> Has anyone any other ideas please?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>
>> >Hi guys,
>> >
>> >Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>> >
>> >I have the following:
>> >
>> >INTEL D865PERL mobo
>> >P4 3ghz CPU
>> >1GB RAM
>> >480w PSU
>> >Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>> >Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>> >Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>> >
>> >I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>> >sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the
>mouse
>> >about the desktop.
>> >
>> >If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game
>freezing.
>> >Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets
>completely or
>> >I have have to hit reset myself.
>> >
>> >I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual
>boot),
>> >using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I
>exit
>> >X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines
>on a
>> >black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot
>/
>> >reset.
>> >
>> >The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>> >perfectly for 5 months.
>> >
>> >I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some
>of my
>> >USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>> >prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX
>card
>> >but the problems remain.
>> >
>> >Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>> >
>> >Can anyone help please?
>> >
>> >* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this
>group.
>> >
>> >Thanks.
>>
>
>Do you have the latest platform drivers for your MB?
>
>
>

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Right, this is interesting....

Lid off, sides off, just the GFX card in and it _seems_ to be going ok.

So it is either a heat issue or one of the other cards giving it problems....

I had (along with the 6800) a 3Com NIC (2nd PCI slot, the next after the one
that the Nvidia prevents me using due to the profile / fan) and a Pinnacle PCTV
Sat card in there (bottom slot).

M guess at the moment is that its heat?

I will report back after I try:

1. Closing the lid and having just the Nvidia 6800 installed

2. Lid back on AND my cards back in (I will try to move the 3COM down one to
allow the Nvidia a bit more air flow).

Fingers crossed!


On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 17:00:41 +0100, Weaver <dratI@forgot.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>
>Use only the last WHQL set 61.76 after Driver Cleaner

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"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Thanks for the replies guys..
>
> I setup the cool*.reg file this morning.
>
> Ive set the 2D / 3D clocks at 425 (I upped the 2D to 425 (originally it
> was
> 410) ).
>
> I checked out my BIOS version and it is reported as: 5.40.02.15.11
>
> After making the clocks the same, I went into Joint Operations, flew
> around in
> a heli for ten mins and its still going horribly wrong. Glitches start
> appearing all over the place (same for Battlefield Vietnam).
>
> In the end I have to quit. The games become unplayable. Back at the
> desktop, if
> I move my mouse around, I get white glitches flashing up over the desktop.
> As
> soon as my mouse movements stop, the display seems "calm".
>
> I have my suspicions over the USB also taking IRQ 16 (the same is used for
> the
> 6800). But with ACPI being installed in XP Pro, I cannot re-assign the IRQ
> (even in safe mode). Ive even started using my mouse on the PS/2 port
> (still
> the problems persist).
>
> The card is still totally unusable. I cant believe they've released a card
> in
> such poor shape. (No doubt rushed to market trying to get a foot in before
> ATI).
>
> Has anyone any other ideas please?

Try a fresh install?, power supply issue? - not enough juice?, if all else
fails....RMA.

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The power supply is brand new (bought it same day as the card). Its 480w -
surely this is enough? I have 2 hard disks, a floppy drive and a CDRW
connected. This wont push the juice situation will it? Surely?



On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:32:12 +0100, "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:hbsri01tbptdov63lvag3o9ao9ppdok0gm@4ax.com...
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the replies guys..
>>
>> I setup the cool*.reg file this morning.
>>
>> Ive set the 2D / 3D clocks at 425 (I upped the 2D to 425 (originally it
>> was
>> 410) ).
>>
>> I checked out my BIOS version and it is reported as: 5.40.02.15.11
>>
>> After making the clocks the same, I went into Joint Operations, flew
>> around in
>> a heli for ten mins and its still going horribly wrong. Glitches start
>> appearing all over the place (same for Battlefield Vietnam).
>>
>> In the end I have to quit. The games become unplayable. Back at the
>> desktop, if
>> I move my mouse around, I get white glitches flashing up over the desktop.
>> As
>> soon as my mouse movements stop, the display seems "calm".
>>
>> I have my suspicions over the USB also taking IRQ 16 (the same is used for
>> the
>> 6800). But with ACPI being installed in XP Pro, I cannot re-assign the IRQ
>> (even in safe mode). Ive even started using my mouse on the PS/2 port
>> (still
>> the problems persist).
>>
>> The card is still totally unusable. I cant believe they've released a card
>> in
>> such poor shape. (No doubt rushed to market trying to get a foot in before
>> ATI).
>>
>> Has anyone any other ideas please?
>
>Try a fresh install?, power supply issue? - not enough juice?, if all else
>fails....RMA.
>
>

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Yes the problem seems to go away (almost completely) when the lid is off
enabling more airflow.

The AGP is indeed sharing the IRQ with the USB. I cannot change this in XP Pro
unfortunately.

If I run Joint Ops at Highest detail at 1600x1200 the glitching starts again.
Drop it to 1024x768 and all _seems_ ok so far.

Gotta be heat?




On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 18:35:02 +0100, "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>>
>> OK, I played Joint Ops for a good hour and a half at 1024x768 with High
>> settings for detail.
>>
>> It ran much better but I did still get some glitches occuring
>> occasionally.
>>
>> I still havent got the lid back on and the other cards havent been
>> re-installed.
>>
>> I also dropped the clock settings down by 10 (both).
>>
>> If I run the game at 1600x1200 it seemed to bring back the problem of
>> glitching
>> - as though the card is getting too hot?
>>
>> What do you guys think?
>
>
>What you could do is move any PCI cards you have to another slot, give the
>AGP card more room to "breath", the AGP card is sharing an IRQ with
>something else, usually a USB controller.
>
>

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"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> Yes the problem seems to go away (almost completely) when the lid is off
> enabling more airflow.
>
> The AGP is indeed sharing the IRQ with the USB. I cannot change this in XP
> Pro
> unfortunately.
>
> If I run Joint Ops at Highest detail at 1600x1200 the glitching starts
> again.
> Drop it to 1024x768 and all _seems_ ok so far.
>
> Gotta be heat?

You have your motherboard BIOS set to automatically assign IRQ's...you could
do it manually. But i would advise against it....best try find the problem
first.

How many fans do you have?, you can get fans that will push more air and not
be that much noisy.

It's about placement and airflow, getting a fan with the highest CFM with
the lowest dB rating. Vantec Stealth, PanaFlo's....all good.

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"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> Case is back on and guess what? Locking up and freezing. Glitches galore!
> Even
> with the new fan added.


http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProd [...] rty&DEPA=0

Loads of cases sub $100, try get one with fans + USB ports etc.

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...and now for the new weird glitch of the day...

After a time, the screen suffers from mutli-coloured speckles flashing on and
off. Whilst this is happening, I heard the board in the machine making a
"shorting" sound. Its very feint, but the 6800 sounds as though it is shorting
/ arcing as the speckles are appearing. I put my ear close to the card and sure
enough, its as though it is arcing.

Im thinking this card needs to go back to the supplier. Geeez. Wish they would
test these things before they ship 'em!









On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>
>I have the following:
>
>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>P4 3ghz CPU
>1GB RAM
>480w PSU
>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>
>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>about the desktop.
>
>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>I have have to hit reset myself.
>
>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>reset.
>
>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>perfectly for 5 months.
>
>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>but the problems remain.
>
>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>
>Can anyone help please?
>
>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>
>Thanks.

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OK, I spent all day Saturday trying to pin down exactly what the heck is up.

Here is what I tested:

Test 1:

I built up a different machine (different INTEL motherboard (a GER model,
whereas mine is a D865PERL), INTEL Celeron 1.7, 512MB RAM, 300w PSU, no PCI
cards installed except for the 6800 in the AGP slot, one hard disk, one CDROM,
floppy, AGP 4x, fresh XP install, latest drivers, latest Direct-X)

Results: Perfect - not a glitch! Ran like a charm with Joint Operations - no
glitches or anything.


Test 2:

Re-jigged my P4 3ghz machine, using my INTEL D865PERL motherboard, same 300w
PSU from the above (test 1), a fresh install of XP, latest Direct-X, latest
NVidia drivers, fresh install of Joint Operations.

Results: Ran ok for a time but the same problems of glitches occured after a
time - and - it blew my 300w PSU - luckily I will be using my new 480w PSU, and
luckily all that blew was the PSU - the HDDs and other components seem fine.
Lesson learned there.

....SO, the only conclusion I have come to is that the INTEL D865PERL mobo. is
no good with the 6800 - either that or the AGP implementation is poor in some
way? The result really is that the only component that hasn't been "swapped"
out in all my tests is the D865PERL motherboard - the 1.7 Celeron never had the
issue of the "arcing" / "sparking" sounds from the 6800 card itself - it is as
though the D865PERL motherboard is supplying duff voltages / power to the 6800
in some way?

I am ordering a new mobo later this week - can anyone out there recommend a
good one they are using without issues with the BFG 6800 Ultra 256 OC with an
Intel P4 3ghz CPU?

Cheers for all the replies and advice on the thread guys....






On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote:

>Hi guys,
>
>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>
>I have the following:
>
>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>P4 3ghz CPU
>1GB RAM
>480w PSU
>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>
>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>about the desktop.
>
>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>I have have to hit reset myself.
>
>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>reset.
>
>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>perfectly for 5 months.
>
>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>but the problems remain.
>
>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>
>Can anyone help please?
>
>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>
>Thanks.

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I had the same symptoms, BFG 6800Ultra/ASUS P4C800E/Antec 550W.

It was the Antec, I doubt that it was a design issue, probably just a bad
component.

I replaced it with an Enermax 550W which works fine.

BTW, I like the Enermax better. It has shielded mobo power cables,
speed adjustable fans, and an extra 4 pin power connector in the
shielded power cables. I use this for the bottom 6800 connector.


"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>
> I sent my machine into the local company I got my machine from for a new
mobo
> upgrade (moving off the INTEL D865PERL board onto an ASUS P4c800 E Deluxe
> board.
>
> I rang to see how it was going today and even with the new mobo the card
is
> causing problems and wont cleanly run through 3DMark 03. That brings my
list of
> tests and hardware swap-outs to the following:
>
> 1. New PSU (480w).
> 2. New mobo.
>
> * The guys at the computer company are trying two other things this
afternoon -
> new Kingston Asynchronous memory and a new (good quality) PSU.
>
> If those tests _still_ cause the 6800 to fail I will (annoyingly) be
sending it
> back.
>
> All in all, its not been a good experience to be honest. I cant believe
the
> hassle this has caused.
>
> Ah well, I will post back here when I know more.
>
> Cheers all.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:22:38 GMT, john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) wrote:
>
> >On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
> >wrote:
> >
> >>Hi guys,
> >>
> >>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
> >>
> >>I have the following:
> >>
> >>INTEL D865PERL mobo
> >>P4 3ghz CPU
> >>1GB RAM
> >>480w PSU
> >>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
> >>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
> >>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
> >>
> >>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time,
I
> >>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the
mouse
> >>about the desktop.
> >>
> >>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game
freezing.
> >>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets
completely or
> >>I have have to hit reset myself.
> >>
> >>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual
boot),
> >>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I
exit
> >>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines
on a
> >>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot
/
> >>reset.
> >>
> >>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
> >>perfectly for 5 months.
> >>
> >>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some
of my
> >>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector
to
> >>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the
GFX card
> >>but the problems remain.
> >>
> >>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
> >>
> >>Can anyone help please?
> >>
> >>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this
group.
> >>
> >>Thanks.
> >
> >Check the +12v capability of your power-supply. It should be AT LEAST
> >20 amps available ( ~ 17amps for your CPU and the BFG 6800Ultra, and
> >2-3 amps for your hard-disks/ DVD-CD devices ) Also, it is MANDATORY
> >to connect up the power-supply to the Ultra EXACTLY as instructed,
> >particularly with regard to not sharing power with other devices. Use
> > 4-pin power-splitter adapters for your disks etc ( ~ $3 at Fry's) to
> >achieve the requested hookup.
> >
> >If all is well here then.............
> >
> >Pop down to your local computer-parts store and buy a can of
> >Freezit. When you see the glitches, GENTLY spray only the heatsinks
> >( both memory and GPU-fan) on the 6800 Ultra and see if the glitches
> >go away. Do NOT spray directly on any electronic component !!
> > If you end up with frost/moisture on the heatsinks and the glitches
> >still do not go away, the 6800 Ultra is probably not at fault. If the
> >glitches do go away, check which heat-sink stimulates the cure. If
> >memory, use the coolbits setting to downclock the memory and try
> >again. If GPU, downclock the GPU in both 2D and 3D mode and try
> >again.
> >
> >Ultimately, you may find that cooling is indeed the real issue ( or
> >the borard is faulty) , but there are a few skins to be peeled off
> >this particular onion first.
> >
> >John Lewis
>

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On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
wrote:

For what it'd's worth I just put a machine together
AMD 64 3000+
with a 6800 Oc and Joint Ops and 3dmarks freezes on me also. It will
freeze for about 4 seconds then resume. It doesn't do it in DOOM3
I only have those two games installed right now.
I didn't have this problem on the and 2100+ system with the same card.
I wonder if its a driver issue with SP2 ?


>Hi guys,
>
>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>
>I have the following:
>
>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>P4 3ghz CPU
>1GB RAM
>480w PSU
>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>
>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>about the desktop.
>
>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>I have have to hit reset myself.
>
>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>reset.
>
>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>perfectly for 5 months.
>
>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>but the problems remain.
>
>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>
>Can anyone help please?
>
>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>
>Thanks.

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

Right, Its been a long haul, but many thanks to all who have posted help.

My final cure was:

Switched from INTEL D865PERL mobo to ASUS P4C800-E Deluxe
Switched to SuperFlower 520w PSU

- Now rocking!

The mobo does not seem to have been the issue, the PSU is the key to it (BIG
THANKS to spinlock).

Still, the ASUS seems a much better board than the INTEL D865PERL (always had
conflicts using the bottom 2 PCI cards).

Im now playing Joint Ops and getting a min. of 42 fps and a max of 55-60 fps (I
previously got approx. 16 at best).

Im using latest Direct-X 9.0c.

Thanks again to all who posted.


On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 10:52:03 -0700, "spinlock" <NullVoid@att.net> wrote:

>I had the same symptoms, BFG 6800Ultra/ASUS P4C800E/Antec 550W.
>
>It was the Antec, I doubt that it was a design issue, probably just a bad
>component.
>
>I replaced it with an Enermax 550W which works fine.
>
>BTW, I like the Enermax better. It has shielded mobo power cables,
>speed adjustable fans, and an extra 4 pin power connector in the
>shielded power cables. I use this for the bottom 6800 connector.
>
>
>"Nefilim" <nefilim@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>news:9itgj0tobqc58g2m85tn57g8ek9sfg8695@4ax.com...
>>
>> I sent my machine into the local company I got my machine from for a new
>mobo
>> upgrade (moving off the INTEL D865PERL board onto an ASUS P4c800 E Deluxe
>> board.
>>
>> I rang to see how it was going today and even with the new mobo the card
>is
>> causing problems and wont cleanly run through 3DMark 03. That brings my
>list of
>> tests and hardware swap-outs to the following:
>>
>> 1. New PSU (480w).
>> 2. New mobo.
>>
>> * The guys at the computer company are trying two other things this
>afternoon -
>> new Kingston Asynchronous memory and a new (good quality) PSU.
>>
>> If those tests _still_ cause the 6800 to fail I will (annoyingly) be
>sending it
>> back.
>>
>> All in all, its not been a good experience to be honest. I cant believe
>the
>> hassle this has caused.
>>
>> Ah well, I will post back here when I know more.
>>
>> Cheers all.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 27 Aug 2004 20:22:38 GMT, john.dsl@verizon.net (John Lewis) wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>Hi guys,
>> >>
>> >>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>> >>
>> >>I have the following:
>> >>
>> >>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>> >>P4 3ghz CPU
>> >>1GB RAM
>> >>480w PSU
>> >>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>> >>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>> >>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>> >>
>> >>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time,
>I
>> >>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the
>mouse
>> >>about the desktop.
>> >>
>> >>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game
>freezing.
>> >>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets
>completely or
>> >>I have have to hit reset myself.
>> >>
>> >>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual
>boot),
>> >>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I
>exit
>> >>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines
>on a
>> >>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot
>/
>> >>reset.
>> >>
>> >>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>> >>perfectly for 5 months.
>> >>
>> >>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some
>of my
>> >>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector
>to
>> >>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the
>GFX card
>> >>but the problems remain.
>> >>
>> >>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>> >>
>> >>Can anyone help please?
>> >>
>> >>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this
>group.
>> >>
>> >>Thanks.
>> >
>> >Check the +12v capability of your power-supply. It should be AT LEAST
>> >20 amps available ( ~ 17amps for your CPU and the BFG 6800Ultra, and
>> >2-3 amps for your hard-disks/ DVD-CD devices ) Also, it is MANDATORY
>> >to connect up the power-supply to the Ultra EXACTLY as instructed,
>> >particularly with regard to not sharing power with other devices. Use
>> > 4-pin power-splitter adapters for your disks etc ( ~ $3 at Fry's) to
>> >achieve the requested hookup.
>> >
>> >If all is well here then.............
>> >
>> >Pop down to your local computer-parts store and buy a can of
>> >Freezit. When you see the glitches, GENTLY spray only the heatsinks
>> >( both memory and GPU-fan) on the 6800 Ultra and see if the glitches
>> >go away. Do NOT spray directly on any electronic component !!
>> > If you end up with frost/moisture on the heatsinks and the glitches
>> >still do not go away, the 6800 Ultra is probably not at fault. If the
>> >glitches do go away, check which heat-sink stimulates the cure. If
>> >memory, use the coolbits setting to downclock the memory and try
>> >again. If GPU, downclock the GPU in both 2D and 3D mode and try
>> >again.
>> >
>> >Ultimately, you may find that cooling is indeed the real issue ( or
>> >the borard is faulty) , but there are a few skins to be peeled off
>> >this particular onion first.
>> >
>> >John Lewis
>>
>

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:07:00 -0400, bp <none@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:44:26 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>wrote:
>
>>I got this too.
>>
>>I have had to do a lot of stuff in the past 2 weeks to cure my probs with my
>>6800.
>>
>>In the end using the driver cleaner utility and reinstalling helped a lot.
>>
>>In the end Im on the latest BIOSes for the Nvidia card, mobo and installed
>>DirectX 9.0c.
>>
>>A big thing to check is the PSU. Im now using a SuperFlower 520w psu.
>>
>>Avoid using a low quality PSU and it seems to cure all issues.
>I have a Antec Truepower 430 but the fact that it doesn't do it on all
>games makes me think its a driver thing.
>
>I'm going to put my 9800pro back in and see what happens.
>I might just return it and get a x800 (needs less power)
>I really liked this card before I put this system together.

I figured it out, sort of.
I just turned off a few graphic card options in the BIOS and no more
stopping!.
I just have to figure out exactly which item it is now.
I turned off Fastwrites, turned the APG from auto to 4x8x and stopped
caching the video BIOS

I'm betting it will turn out to be fastwrites.

>>
>>
>>
>>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 06:51:31 -0400, bp <none@comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>For what it'd's worth I just put a machine together
>>>AMD 64 3000+
>>>with a 6800 Oc and Joint Ops and 3dmarks freezes on me also. It will
>>>freeze for about 4 seconds then resume. It doesn't do it in DOOM3
>>>I only have those two games installed right now.
>>>I didn't have this problem on the and 2100+ system with the same card.
>>>I wonder if its a driver issue with SP2 ?
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi guys,
>>>>
>>>>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>>>>
>>>>I have the following:
>>>>
>>>>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>>>>P4 3ghz CPU
>>>>1GB RAM
>>>>480w PSU
>>>>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>>>>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>>>>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>>>>
>>>>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>>>>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>>>>about the desktop.
>>>>
>>>>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>>>>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>>>>I have have to hit reset myself.
>>>>
>>>>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>>>>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>>>>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>>>>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>>>>reset.
>>>>
>>>>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>>>>perfectly for 5 months.
>>>>
>>>>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>>>>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>>>>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>>>>but the problems remain.
>>>>
>>>>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>>>>
>>>>Can anyone help please?
>>>>
>>>>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>>>>
>>>>Thanks.

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I've read that Fastwrites were causing some people problems. Your other option
is to install coolbits (see my last post) and sync the clocks, but if your BIOS
changes sorted, it, great stuff!



On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 23:17:14 -0400, bp <none@comcast.net> wrote:

>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 22:07:00 -0400, bp <none@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 16:44:26 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>>wrote:
>>
>>>I got this too.
>>>
>>>I have had to do a lot of stuff in the past 2 weeks to cure my probs with my
>>>6800.
>>>
>>>In the end using the driver cleaner utility and reinstalling helped a lot.
>>>
>>>In the end Im on the latest BIOSes for the Nvidia card, mobo and installed
>>>DirectX 9.0c.
>>>
>>>A big thing to check is the PSU. Im now using a SuperFlower 520w psu.
>>>
>>>Avoid using a low quality PSU and it seems to cure all issues.
>>I have a Antec Truepower 430 but the fact that it doesn't do it on all
>>games makes me think its a driver thing.
>>
>>I'm going to put my 9800pro back in and see what happens.
>>I might just return it and get a x800 (needs less power)
>>I really liked this card before I put this system together.
>
>I figured it out, sort of.
>I just turned off a few graphic card options in the BIOS and no more
>stopping!.
>I just have to figure out exactly which item it is now.
>I turned off Fastwrites, turned the APG from auto to 4x8x and stopped
>caching the video BIOS
>
>I'm betting it will turn out to be fastwrites.
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 06:51:31 -0400, bp <none@comcast.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Thu, 26 Aug 2004 09:17:06 +0100, Nefilim <nefilim@nowhere.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>For what it'd's worth I just put a machine together
>>>>AMD 64 3000+
>>>>with a 6800 Oc and Joint Ops and 3dmarks freezes on me also. It will
>>>>freeze for about 4 seconds then resume. It doesn't do it in DOOM3
>>>>I only have those two games installed right now.
>>>>I didn't have this problem on the and 2100+ system with the same card.
>>>>I wonder if its a driver issue with SP2 ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi guys,
>>>>>
>>>>>Im struggling with a new BFG 6800 Ultra I installed yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have the following:
>>>>>
>>>>>INTEL D865PERL mobo
>>>>>P4 3ghz CPU
>>>>>1GB RAM
>>>>>480w PSU
>>>>>Correctly split power feeds as per instructions
>>>>>Latest Nvidia Drivers as at 25.08.2004
>>>>>Win XP Pro (latest updates)
>>>>>
>>>>>I can get the machine to boot up and start using Windows. After a time, I
>>>>>sometimes get small white symbols / glitches on the screen as I move the mouse
>>>>>about the desktop.
>>>>>
>>>>>If I go in and play Joint Operations for a time, I notice the game freezing.
>>>>>Sometimes the game recommences but other times the machine resets completely or
>>>>>I have have to hit reset myself.
>>>>>
>>>>>I also use this card in Redhat Fedora Core 1 Linux (machine is dual boot),
>>>>>using the latest drivers from Nvidia, I can startx ok, but then when I exit
>>>>>X-Windows (KDE) to go back to the console, I get three horizontal lines on a
>>>>>black background and the machine freezes. Like Windows, I have to reboot /
>>>>>reset.
>>>>>
>>>>>The machine I am using previosuly had a Nvidia 5600 128MB and it worked
>>>>>perfectly for 5 months.
>>>>>
>>>>>I have noticed that the card is using IRQ 16 (which is also used by some of my
>>>>>USB setup in XP). I have even installed my mouse on the PS/2 connector to
>>>>>prevent what may be contentions for the IRQ between the mouse and the GFX card
>>>>>but the problems remain.
>>>>>
>>>>>Im a bit disappointed but there must be something I can do?
>>>>>
>>>>>Can anyone help please?
>>>>>
>>>>>* email address is not supplied to prevent spam. Please reply in this group.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks.