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Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
every boot up? I am on broadband.
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DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
> connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
> every boot up?
Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
> I am on broadband.
Use the Windows-Firewall.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
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> DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP,
the
> > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this
at
> > every boot up?
>
> Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
>
> > I am on broadband.
>
> Use the Windows-Firewall.
>
> Yours,
> VB.
> --
> "Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
> deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
> Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431af12f@news.uni-ulm.de...
> > DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a
new IP,
> the
> > > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to
my system
> > > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from
doing this
> at
> > > every boot up?
> >
> > Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
> >
> > > I am on broadband.
> >
> > Use the Windows-Firewall.
> >
>
> I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro
>
V.B doesn't believe in software firewalls, but don't stay connected to
broadband without a firewall of some sort. It sounds like you've got
a corrupted database or bad install of ZoneAlarm. I'd disconnect the
internet, and do an uninstall and re-install of ZA. Be sure to
uncheck Load ZA at startup, and close all other running programs.
Uncheck your Antivirus app on the startup tab if you have msconfig.
(not familiar with Win 2000). Uninstall, Reboot and re-install. If
it's still botched, check at the ZoneLabs community Forums. Lots of
information there. Good Luck.
charlie R
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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431af12f@news.uni-ulm.de...
> > DNA <original_dnaNOSPAM@xyzyahoo.com> wrote:
> > > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a
new IP,
> the
> > > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to
my system
> > > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from
doing this
> at
> > > every boot up?
> >
> > Remove Zonealarm from your PC. You don't need it.
> >
> > > I am on broadband.
> >
> > Use the Windows-Firewall.
> >
>
> I forgot to say I am on Win 2000 pro
>
V.B doesn't believe in software firewalls, but don't stay connected to
broadband without a firewall of some sort. It sounds like you've got
a corrupted database or bad install of ZoneAlarm. I'd disconnect the
internet, and do an uninstall and re-install of ZA. Be sure to
uncheck Load ZA at startup, and close all other running programs.
Uncheck your Antivirus app on the startup tab if you have msconfig.
(not familiar with Win 2000). Uninstall, Reboot and re-install. If
it's still botched, check at the ZoneLabs community Forums. Lots of
information there. Good Luck.
charlie R
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"DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
> connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
> every boot up? I am on broadband.
>
> Cheers
>
> N
>
>
Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
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"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:xqmdneGbabNow4beRVn-gw@comcast.com...
>
> "DNA" <original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:zhCSe.3434$ix3.2361@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP,
the
> > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this
at
> > every boot up? I am on broadband.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > N
> >
> >
>
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>
Thanks for the reply, I will try the uninstall method first.
This script deactivates all servers/network services, Windows is
offering, so you don't need a firewall to filter any more.
If you want a simpler option, maybe my tool here could help; it does
the same for Windows 2000 and Windows XP SP1, what Torsten's script is
doing for any Windows release:
Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".
Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.
This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
For a software, which should enhance security, this design flow means the
declaration of bankruptcy.
I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:
I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".
Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.
This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
For a software, which should enhance security, this design flow means the
declaration of bankruptcy.
I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:
I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of the
"Personal Firewalls".
Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
this is not possible at all.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
goes to Tiny.
Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
windows.
This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
declaration of bankruptcy.
I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
could help:
I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
"Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"
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"Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
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> Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
> > Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
> > Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>
> Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
> across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of
the
> "Personal Firewalls".
>
> Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
> this is not possible at all.
>
> Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
> default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
>
> Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
> goes to Tiny.
>
> Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
> windows.
>
> This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
> that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
>
>
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] ervices.as p?fr
> ame=true#security_considerations_for_interactive_services
>
> For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
> declaration of bankruptcy.
>
> I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
> shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
> configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
> could help:
>
> http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en > http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html >
> I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
> this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
> I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
> "Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
Well, neither can a firewall appliance, either. Tiny
was designed to be the software equivalent of a
hardware appliance. It blocks by application, and
by port, but not by anything else.
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"Charles Newman" <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote in
message news:_bGdnT1QuoXMH4beRVn-tg@comcast.com...
>
> "Volker Birk" <bumens@dingens.org> wrote in message
> news:431b7bd6@news.uni-ulm.de...
>> Charles Newman <charlesnewman1@spamfilter.home.comcast.net> wrote:
>> > Get rid of ZoneAlarm and get Tiny Personal
>> > Firewall. It is so much better than ZoneAlarm
>>
>> Both cannot prevent spyware from sending your personal information
>> across the Internet; both failed in our tests together with the rest of
> the
>> "Personal Firewalls".
>>
>> Both do not make a PC "invisible" or "stealth" in the Internet, as
>> this is not possible at all.
>>
>> Tiny "Personal Firewall" does not filter all network services in the
>> default configuration, Zonealarm does. This point goes to Zonealarm.
>>
>> Zonealarm is vulnerable to the SelfDoS attack, Tiny not. This point
>> goes to Tiny.
>>
>> Tiny "Personal Firewall" installs SYSTEM-Services, which open
>> windows.
>>
>> This is a gross error, because this breaches security. Tiny show here,
>> that they never read Microsoft's design guidlines for system services:
>>
>>
> http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/ [...] ervices.as > p?fr
>> ame=true#security_considerations_for_interactive_services
>>
>> For a software, which should enhance security, this design flaw means the
>> declaration of bankruptcy.
>>
>> I'd not say, it is a good idea to use Zonealarm, though. I'd just
>> shutdown the network servers which are running in Windows' default
>> configuration, so no port filter is needed any more. Those tools
>> could help:
>>
>> http://www.dingens.org/index.html.en >> http://www.ntsvcfg.de/ntsvcfg_eng.html >>
>> I'd use IPSec-filtering of Windows 2000, if I had to have a filter with
>> this operating system. If this is too complicated to configure, perhaps
>> I'd use Kerio, because this "Personal Firewall" was the least bad
>> "Personal Firewall" in our test, though I'm not convinced of it at all.
>
> Well, neither can a firewall appliance, either. Tiny
> was designed to be the software equivalent of a
> hardware appliance. It blocks by application, and
> by port, but not by anything else.
So how is that equivalent to a FW appliance, since a FW appliance can stop
traffic by port, protocol, IP or packet attribute or state inbound or
outbound? Mind you here Charles, I am not talking about a NAT router for
home usage.
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On Sun, 04 Sep 2005 13:04:31 GMT, "DNA"
<original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com> wrote:
>Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
>connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
>tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
>every boot up? I am on broadband.
It's possible that's caused by a corrupted database.
Here is a "generic" set of instructions for refreshing/rebuilding a
corrupt ZoneAlarm database:
[Please note that this will remove your program permissions and Local
Zone settings, so you may want to make note of them. However,
re-establishing them is a simple process. You will be prompted again
for program access for all the applications that you use to access the
local network or Internet.]
- Step 1. Open the ZoneAlarm program, go into the Overview Preferences
tab and turn off "Load ZoneAlarm at startup".
- Step 2. If you are running Windows 95, 98, ME, or 2000, reboot your
system into either Safe Mode or to a Command Prompt. The method is
determined by your OS, but most systems will boot into safe mode by
either pressing F8 at the beep or holding the CTRL key during bootup.
You should now have no ZoneAlarm processes running on your system.
- Step 3. Open the Internet Logs directory (in 95/98/ME this will be
"C:\Windows\Internet Logs", in NT and 2000 it will be
"C:\Winnt\Internet Logs", in Windows XP it could be either of these
folders), where you will find a file named "iamdb.rdb" and a file
named after your computer with the ".ldb" extension. Delete both of
these files. If "backup.rdb" exists, delete it also.
- Step 4. Make sure that you EMPTY your Recycle Bin BEFORE rebooting
back into normal mode.
- Step 5. You will need to start ZoneAlarm manually. (Click "Start,"
"Programs," "Zone Labs" and either "ZoneAlarm" or "Zone Labs
Security" ). ZoneAlarm will start up again with a fresh database. Each
program should ask for access again if the files were properly
deleted.
- Step 6. Be sure to RECHECK the "Load ZoneAlarm at startup".
--
dak
My SpywareBlaster Custom Blocking List:
<http://customblockinglist.cjb.net/>
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In article <zhCSe.3434$ix3.2361@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com says...
> Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP, the
> connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this at
> every boot up? I am on broadband.
>
This problem was a bug in ZAP 6.0.631.002. If you're using that version
(.002) then remove it and install the release after that (.003). It
fixes the problem.
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"Kerodo" <loopback@localhost.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1d8548e97fca6f15989681@news.west.cox.net...
> In article <zhCSe.3434$ix3.2361@fe1.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> original_dnaNOSPAM@XYZyahoo.com says...
> > Every time I start my machine, zap pro says its has detected a new IP,
the
> > connection wizard guides me through until zap pro goes back to my system
> > tray after I click on finish. How do I prevent zap pro from doing this
at
> > every boot up? I am on broadband.
> >
>
> This problem was a bug in ZAP 6.0.631.002. If you're using that version
> (.002) then remove it and install the release after that (.003). It
> fixes the problem.
>
> --
> Kerodo
Thanks to all who gave advice, I have it working now. I also found some info
from pcanswers magazine
If you want to fully uninstall ZoneAlarm, or if you received this from Tech
Support.
Solution:
In order to completely remove ZoneAlarm from your system, please do the
following. If any of the steps below do not apply to you, or you are unable
to perform the function listed, please continue to the next step.
If you plan to reinstall, then before starting, please be sure to download
the latest version. Note that a current valid license key is required to
download ZoneAlarm Plus or Pro.
Note for ZoneAlarm Premium product users: In order to download the latest
version, you must have a valid key. To find out if your key is valid, click
Overview -> Product Info. Your expiration date and time will appear directly
underneath the license number (any key that shows "unlimited" is an illegal
pirate license key). If your key is not valid, use the following link to
renew:
Be sure to install from an account with Administrative privileges, if your
OS supports them.
Please do the following. If any of the steps below do not apply to you, or
you are unable to perform the function listed, please CONTINUE to the next
step.
Open the ZoneAlarm program, go to the OVERVIEW -> PREFERENCES tab, and make
sure the Load At Startup box is UNchecked. Close the program, then
right-click on the ZA icon and select Shutdown.
REBOOT.
You should now have no ZoneAlarm processes running on your system.
Now click Start -> Programs -> Zone Labs -> Uninstall. Be sure to say YES to
the security check.
WARNING - Do NOT run the ZoneAlarm Uninstall program while in Safe Mode
unless absolutely necessary. The program may not be able to make the proper
registry changes in Safe Mode, thus generating errors after a reboot.
REBOOT.
To make sure that you can see the ZoneAlarm system files, if they are still
on your computer:
a. Right-click on Start, then left-click on Explore. When the Windows
Explorer panel appears:
- In Windows 95, 98, 98SE: Click View -> Options (in Windows 98/98SE, this
will be called "Folder Options" ). Click the "View" tab, then click the "Show
all files" radio button.
- In Windows ME, XP, 2000: Click Tools -> Folder Options. Click the "View"
tab, then click the "Show hidden files and folders" radio button.
b. Make sure you also UNcheck the box to "Hide Protected Operating System
Files" if you have one.
c. When searching, be sure it searches ALL hidden files and folders (in XP:
check Advanced search settings)
d. Click OK.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Making modifications to system files may disable crucial
functions of your Windows operating system. We strongly suggest re-enabling
the "Hide files and folders" feature once all ZoneAlarm files have been
removed.
Click on Start, then Search or Find, and select Files. Make sure that the
location box is set to search your local hard drive (usually C or All
Local Drives.
Type the following exactly and delete the folder:
zonelabs (under your SYSTEM or SYSTEM32 folder)
"zone labs" (under your Program Files folder)
"Internet logs" (under your Windows or WINNT folder)
Type the following exactly - delete files found in \Windows or any subfolder
below it, in your \Temp folder, or in the Windows "Pre-Fetch" folder):
vsconfig.xml
vsdata.dll
vsdata95.vxd
vsdatant.sys
vsmon.*
vsmonapi.dll
vsnetutils.dll
vspubapi.dll
zaplus.*
zapro.*
zllictbl.dat
zlparser.dll
zonealarm.exe
zoneband.dll
vsutil.dll (please right-click, Properties -> Version to be sure it is a ZA
file. Do NOT delete this file unless it is a Zone Labs file!)
Make sure your Recycle Bin is empty (right-click and select Empty).
REBOOT
NOTE: If you received an error message upon deleting the files, or if the
original programs remain in the Programs list, or if the problem persists
after this, removing the files in Safe Mode will allow you to delete the
files properly. Click Start, Help, and search for "SAFE MODE" for
information specific to your system.
Now you should be able to get a clean install of the new version. Be sure to
NOT use the old settings as this can cause further difficulties if the
database is corrupt.
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> Thanks to all who gave advice, I have it working now. I also found
some info
> from pcanswers magazine
>
>
http://nh2.nohold.net/noHoldCust25 [...] NonNT.html >
>
Good for you! Glad to hear it. Good job of researching the problem.
