Yeah, the 6800 Video Processor is broken.

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Here's a shorter URL:
http://tinyurl.com/4odyx

and also another link:
http://tinyurl.com/5aad4

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"DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>
> DaveL

I'm confused!

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"CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:cloq4f$lgl$1@kermit.esat.net...
>>
>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> news:wcSdnY5PeodBdOLcRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>>>
>>> DaveL
>>
>> I'm confused!
>>
>
> Which part you are confusing with?
> 1 - Install the latest nVidia driver
> 2 - Install nVida DVD decoder
> 3 - Install the latest Media Player from Microsoft
> 4 - Check the result if result are better.
>
> CapFusion,...
Only problem with this is - unless I'm missing something, you need to BUY
the DVD decoder. I bought the video card, why should I need to buy nVidia's
DVD decoder for the onboard video processor to function?

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"CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "RaceFace" <nospam@myplace.com> wrote in message
> news:fjUfd.3573$td5.20793@news1.mts.net...
>>
>> "CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
>> news:5tCdnfKAIa2Lc-LcRVn-ug@megapath.net...
>>>
>>> "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>> news:cloq4f$lgl$1@kermit.esat.net...
>>>>
>>>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:wcSdnY5PeodBdOLcRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>>>> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
>>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>>>>>
>>>>> DaveL
>>>>
>>>> I'm confused!
>>>>
>>>
>>> Which part you are confusing with?
>>> 1 - Install the latest nVidia driver
>>> 2 - Install nVida DVD decoder
>>> 3 - Install the latest Media Player from Microsoft
>>> 4 - Check the result if result are better.
>>>
>>> CapFusion,...
>> Only problem with this is - unless I'm missing something, you need to BUY
>> the DVD decoder. I bought the video card, why should I need to buy
>> nVidia's DVD decoder for the onboard video processor to function?
>>
>>
>
> What are you talking about regarding Decoder?
> Are you referring to third-parties DVD software like WinDVD / PowerDVD or
> there?
>
> From previous reply link -
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>
> ** Quote **
> The ForceWare driver will be available shortly on the NVIDIA.com and the
> NVIDIA's DVD decoder is already available for download from NVIDIA.com.
> For Windows Media Video decode on the GeForce 6600 models, end users will
> also need to download an update to Windows Media Player from Microsoft.
> ** /Quote **
>
> Are you still confused?
>
> CapFusion,...
>

Ooops, forgot the link -
nVidia DVD Decoder
http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder_1.00.58.html

CapFusion,...

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> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314

From the very article you cite:
"The GeForce 6800 models featured the 1st generation of our programmable
video technology which includes support for high-definition MPEG2 video
decode and standard definition MPEG2 encode
....
The GeForce 6600 models have the same 1st generation programmable video
technology support as the GeForce 6800 models. However, the GeForce 6600
models also include hardware acceleration for high-definition Windows Media
Video (WMV) decode."

The original press release for the 6800 series touted MPEG 1/2/4
encode/decode and WMV9 decode acceleration. Now the quote doesn't mention
MPEG4 at all and goes on to say that the 6800 cards can decode high
definition MPEG, but only encode standard definition MPEG2 and will not do
anything with WMV9. Quite a difference from the original press release.

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"CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
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>
> "CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
> news:YJ6dnVch_4EBiR3cRVn-1w@megapath.net...
>>
>> "RaceFace" <nospam@myplace.com> wrote in message
>> news:fjUfd.3573$td5.20793@news1.mts.net...
>>>
>>> "CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
>>> news:5tCdnfKAIa2Lc-LcRVn-ug@megapath.net...
>>>>
>>>> "Richard Dower" <richarddower@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:cloq4f$lgl$1@kermit.esat.net...
>>>>>
>>>>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:wcSdnY5PeodBdOLcRVn-jA@comcast.com...
>>>>>> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
>>>>>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DaveL
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm confused!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Which part you are confusing with?
>>>> 1 - Install the latest nVidia driver
>>>> 2 - Install nVida DVD decoder
>>>> 3 - Install the latest Media Player from Microsoft
>>>> 4 - Check the result if result are better.
>>>>
>>>> CapFusion,...
>>> Only problem with this is - unless I'm missing something, you need to
>>> BUY the DVD decoder. I bought the video card, why should I need to buy
>>> nVidia's DVD decoder for the onboard video processor to function?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What are you talking about regarding Decoder?
>> Are you referring to third-parties DVD software like WinDVD / PowerDVD or
>> there?
>>

If you look carefully you will see what decoder he refers to


>> From previous reply link -
>> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>>
>> ** Quote **
>> The ForceWare driver will be available shortly on the NVIDIA.com and the
>> NVIDIA's DVD decoder is already available for download from NVIDIA.com.
>> For Windows Media Video decode on the GeForce 6600 models, end users will
>> also need to download an update to Windows Media Player from Microsoft.
>> ** /Quote **
>>
>> Are you still confused?
>>

Yes, why have you posted this? It does not answer the question raised, which
is "I bought the video card, why should I need to buy nVidia's DVD decoder
for the onboard video processor to function?"


>> CapFusion,...
>>
>
> Ooops, forgot the link -
> nVidia DVD Decoder
> http://www.nvidia.com/object/dvd_decoder_1.00.58.html
>
> CapFusion,...
>
Yes thats the decoder the previous poster referred to, well done for finding
it

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> Yes, why have you posted this? It does not answer the question raised,
> which is "I bought the video card, why should I need to buy nVidia's DVD
> decoder for the onboard video processor to function?"
>
>

You purchase the card, does your package include an nVidia DVD Decoder with
your package? Or indicated that it come with nVidia DVD Decoder? If this
package does include nVidia DVD Deconder, then contact the manufacturer for
that activation code. If it does not or label it, you will need to purchase
one.
If you insist that nVidia DVD Decoder should be included with your package,
you will need to contact the manufacturer to obtain the activation code.

CapFusion,...

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Apparently it is.

http://techreport.com/onearticle.x/7535


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"CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
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>> Yes, why have you posted this? It does not answer the question raised,
>> which is "I bought the video card, why should I need to buy nVidia's DVD
>> decoder for the onboard video processor to function?"
>>
>>
>
> You purchase the card, does your package include an nVidia DVD Decoder
> with your package?

no

Or indicated that it come with nVidia DVD Decoder?

no

If this
> package does include nVidia DVD Deconder, then contact the manufacturer
> for that activation code. If it does not or label it, you will need to
> purchase one.
> If you insist that nVidia DVD Decoder should be included with your
> package, you will need to contact the manufacturer to obtain the
> activation code.
>
> CapFusion,...
WWHHOOOOSSHHHH. thats the sound of the problem going right over your head.

It has never been indicated that the nvidia dvd decoder software was
required to make use of this ability. I don't insist the nvidia dvd decoder
software should be included in the package, I insist the advertised function
works without the need of a seperate software pack that end users are
required to purchase.

You sir are being an arse

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"Les" <a@aolnot.com> wrote in message news:2ubrlvF28abisU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> "CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
> news8ydnWsnHPNkox3cRVn-pQ@megapath.net...
>>> Yes, why have you posted this? It does not answer the question raised,
>>> which is "I bought the video card, why should I need to buy nVidia's DVD
>>> decoder for the onboard video processor to function?"
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You purchase the card, does your package include an nVidia DVD Decoder
>> with your package?
>
> no
>
> Or indicated that it come with nVidia DVD Decoder?
>
> no
>
> If this
>> package does include nVidia DVD Deconder, then contact the manufacturer
>> for that activation code. If it does not or label it, you will need to
>> purchase one.
>> If you insist that nVidia DVD Decoder should be included with your
>> package, you will need to contact the manufacturer to obtain the
>> activation code.
>>
>> CapFusion,...
> WWHHOOOOSSHHHH. thats the sound of the problem going right over your head.
>
> It has never been indicated that the nvidia dvd decoder software was
> required to make use of this ability. I don't insist the nvidia dvd
> decoder software should be included in the package, I insist the
> advertised function works without the need of a seperate software pack
> that end users are required to purchase.
>
> You sir are being an arse
>

Can you please explain why you make this comment? If not, I believe your
comment should apply to yourself.

CapFusion,...

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On Thu, 28 Oct 2004 10:16:14 +0100, "Les" <a@aolnot.com> wrote:


>WWHHOOOOSSHHHH. thats the sound of the problem going right over your head.
>
>It has never been indicated that the nvidia dvd decoder software was
>required to make use of this ability. I don't insist the nvidia dvd decoder
>software should be included in the package, I insist the advertised function
>works without the need of a seperate software pack that end users are
>required to purchase.
>
>You sir are being an arse

Oh really? The software came with my 6800 GT. RaceFace says the
software came with his card too. Do you even have a qualified card?
Did you bother to look on the CD that came with the card?

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"DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> No it's not! It just needs a driver update.
> http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=19314
>
> DaveL
>

YES IT IS. Read the article, not the headline.

Its quite clear. They say that WMV acceleration works on the 6600 with a
new driver and the DVD decoder. Full stop. Notice the total lack of
comment about WMV acceleration on the 6800?

I rest my case.

Chip

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> Is this really a big deal though, assuming one has a fast CPU? Is there
> something still lacking by not having the acceleration?

There are reports that even high end systems have trouble decoding 1080i
encoded WMVs.

But even with a fast CPU, we have a case of a company advertising features
it either knew were broken or that it hadn't properly tested.

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More from Overclockers today:

http://www.overclockers.com/tips00681/


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> Is this really a big deal though, assuming one has a fast CPU? Is there
> something still lacking by not having the acceleration?

I found a much better answer to this in the thread about this over at
Anandtech:

"Obviously reducing the load on the processor decoding video files allows
you to do a couple things.

Additional Post Processing, it allows you to use resize, deinterlacing
softeneing sharpening...any number of filters to increase the PQ of the
video stream before it is displayed..this is particularly important for
HTPC users displaying on larger screens.

Smoothly playback high bitrate video files. Video streams at high
resolution require far more processing power to display than low resolution
interlaced NTSC that you are used to watching on TV.

Multitasking. A very important feature for the HTPC enthusiast is the
ability to perform different tasks at the same time. I have 6 tuners in my
main PC, and can record 3 at the same time if one is DTV. This is important
in that you use your PVR to record your shows whenever they come on. If
more than 1 show takes up a particular timeslot, you don't have a conflict.
If you are using most of your CPU cycles to decode a video, when your
recording starts, you drop frames and your A/V gets out of sync. Anything
you do on the PC...your movie stutters...damn frustrating when the card you
paid good money for was supposed to reduce the CPU load by up to 95%

For encoding, its pretty obvious how encoding even NTSC resolution files
can take considerable time if you've ever done it...any help to reduce the
time to encode a file is a big help. Hardware acceleration can also be very
helpfull when editing your files. Hardware acceleration can allow you to
scroll the timeline, and edit without having to re-encode to preview your
work. Adding transitions is very cumbersome when its hit or miss, with
hardware accelerated timelines, you can just scrub back and forth and get
everything perfect before rendering..its a huge help.

It means every bit as much to a video enthusiast to have hardware
encoding/decoding support as it does for a gamer to have hardware T/L
support. The 6800 was supposed to offer superior support for both."

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"Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:2uefihF29ahbqU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> "tq96" <tq96@tq96.tq96> wrote in message
> news:Xns95911B2F3422Btq96@127.0.0.1...
>>> Is this really a big deal though, assuming one has a fast CPU? Is there
>>> something still lacking by not having the acceleration?
>>
>> I found a much better answer to this in the thread about this over at
>> Anandtech:
>>
>> "Obviously reducing the load on the processor decoding video files allows
>> you to do a couple things.
>>
>> Additional Post Processing, it allows you to use resize, deinterlacing
>> softeneing sharpening...any number of filters to increase the PQ of the
>> video stream before it is displayed..this is particularly important for
>> HTPC users displaying on larger screens.
>>
>> Smoothly playback high bitrate video files. Video streams at high
>> resolution require far more processing power to display than low
>> resolution
>> interlaced NTSC that you are used to watching on TV.
>>
>> Multitasking. A very important feature for the HTPC enthusiast is the
>> ability to perform different tasks at the same time. I have 6 tuners in
>> my
>> main PC, and can record 3 at the same time if one is DTV. This is
>> important
>> in that you use your PVR to record your shows whenever they come on. If
>> more than 1 show takes up a particular timeslot, you don't have a
>> conflict.
>> If you are using most of your CPU cycles to decode a video, when your
>> recording starts, you drop frames and your A/V gets out of sync. Anything
>> you do on the PC...your movie stutters...damn frustrating when the card
>> you
>> paid good money for was supposed to reduce the CPU load by up to 95%
>>
>> For encoding, its pretty obvious how encoding even NTSC resolution files
>> can take considerable time if you've ever done it...any help to reduce
>> the
>> time to encode a file is a big help. Hardware acceleration can also be
>> very
>> helpfull when editing your files. Hardware acceleration can allow you to
>> scroll the timeline, and edit without having to re-encode to preview your
>> work. Adding transitions is very cumbersome when its hit or miss, with
>> hardware accelerated timelines, you can just scrub back and forth and get
>> everything perfect before rendering..its a huge help.
>>
>> It means every bit as much to a video enthusiast to have hardware
>> encoding/decoding support as it does for a gamer to have hardware T/L
>> support. The 6800 was supposed to offer superior support for both."
>
> VERY good post, imho.
>
> I can just about get smooth playback of 1080i WMV material on my PC, so
> long as I don't do anything else at the same time. But if I wanted to do
> anything remotely taxing as well, then it just wouldn't work. Its not
> only dropped frames too. When I get dropped frames, I lose the lip synch
> and it becomes unwatchable.
>
> nVidia need to sort out a fix for this, and if they cannot, they need to
> think about what sort of compensation they are going to offer.
>
> Chip

I am not sure if they possibly can do any compensation.

CapFusion,...

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"Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net> wrote in message
news:2ufgbrF2a6c8nU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> "CapFusion" <CapFusion.Yo.@hotmail.Hehe.Com> wrote in message
> news:SYudnTPMu9WD4R_cRVn-uQ@megapath.net...
>>
>> "Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net> wrote in message
>> news:2uefihF29ahbqU1@uni-berlin.de...
>>>
>>> "tq96" <tq96@tq96.tq96> wrote in message
>>> news:Xns95911B2F3422Btq96@127.0.0.1...
>>>>> Is this really a big deal though, assuming one has a fast CPU? Is
>>>>> there
>>>>> something still lacking by not having the acceleration?
>>>>
>>>> I found a much better answer to this in the thread about this over at
>>>> Anandtech:
>>>>
>>>> "Obviously reducing the load on the processor decoding video files
>>>> allows
>>>> you to do a couple things.
>>>>
>>>> Additional Post Processing, it allows you to use resize, deinterlacing
>>>> softeneing sharpening...any number of filters to increase the PQ of the
>>>> video stream before it is displayed..this is particularly important for
>>>> HTPC users displaying on larger screens.
>>>>
>>>> Smoothly playback high bitrate video files. Video streams at high
>>>> resolution require far more processing power to display than low
>>>> resolution
>>>> interlaced NTSC that you are used to watching on TV.
>>>>
>>>> Multitasking. A very important feature for the HTPC enthusiast is the
>>>> ability to perform different tasks at the same time. I have 6 tuners in
>>>> my
>>>> main PC, and can record 3 at the same time if one is DTV. This is
>>>> important
>>>> in that you use your PVR to record your shows whenever they come on. If
>>>> more than 1 show takes up a particular timeslot, you don't have a
>>>> conflict.
>>>> If you are using most of your CPU cycles to decode a video, when your
>>>> recording starts, you drop frames and your A/V gets out of sync.
>>>> Anything
>>>> you do on the PC...your movie stutters...damn frustrating when the card
>>>> you
>>>> paid good money for was supposed to reduce the CPU load by up to 95%
>>>>
>>>> For encoding, its pretty obvious how encoding even NTSC resolution
>>>> files
>>>> can take considerable time if you've ever done it...any help to reduce
>>>> the
>>>> time to encode a file is a big help. Hardware acceleration can also be
>>>> very
>>>> helpfull when editing your files. Hardware acceleration can allow you
>>>> to
>>>> scroll the timeline, and edit without having to re-encode to preview
>>>> your
>>>> work. Adding transitions is very cumbersome when its hit or miss, with
>>>> hardware accelerated timelines, you can just scrub back and forth and
>>>> get
>>>> everything perfect before rendering..its a huge help.
>>>>
>>>> It means every bit as much to a video enthusiast to have hardware
>>>> encoding/decoding support as it does for a gamer to have hardware T/L
>>>> support. The 6800 was supposed to offer superior support for both."
>>>
>>> VERY good post, imho.
>>>
>>> I can just about get smooth playback of 1080i WMV material on my PC, so
>>> long as I don't do anything else at the same time. But if I wanted to
>>> do anything remotely taxing as well, then it just wouldn't work. Its
>>> not only dropped frames too. When I get dropped frames, I lose the lip
>>> synch and it becomes unwatchable.
>>>
>>> nVidia need to sort out a fix for this, and if they cannot, they need to
>>> think about what sort of compensation they are going to offer.
>>>
>>> Chip
>>
>> I am not sure if they possibly can do any compensation.
>>
>
> Why not?
>
>

What do you mean by "Why not?"?
What would you expect nVidia to do regarding to compensation?

CapFusion,...

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> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video [...] 25458.html

Nothing new there. It's the same bits from the original quote.

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"Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there> wrote in message
news:9Tygd.49824$bk1.696@fed1read05...
> Update:
>
> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video [...] 25458.html
>
> Ed Light

Much as I thought. They have fixed the Video Processor in later chip
revisions, hence it works on the PCI Express card:

"While NVIDIA now says HD WMV acceleration is only supported by the GeForce
6600-series graphics processing units, X-bit labs has found that at least on
some drivers the HDTV acceleration works on the GeForce 6800 GT PCI Express
graphics cards. AGP flavour of the GeForce 6800 GT did not provide HDTV
hardware decoding on the same driver version."

The very worrying bit is that it did not work on the AGP card.... which is
the one that everyone owns and which all the fuss is about. No-one is
doubting nVidia's ability to fix the problem with later chips. What we are
all wondering about is how they are going to fix it with *our* cards!

Chip

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In case you missed it, the TechConnect web site has a brief article:

http://tinyurl.com/4j6zr

"NVIDIA has began confirming the video acceleration functionality of
the 6800 series GPU has a hardware flaw and will never work."


On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 22:39:09 +0200, "René"
<spamisnietleuk@hotmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Les,
>
>I agree that reading seems to be difficult to some people. Just stay cool,
>won't help You to get so angry (might only make You old very rapidly).
>I also agree with Your statements, unfortunately there's nothing I can do
>about it...
>
>I hope You'll enjoy the "good parts" of Your card anyway!
>
>Sincerely,
>Rene
>

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Caliban Computing
http://www.Caliban.com/
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"Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net> schreef in bericht
news:2ujtarF2bs00dU1@uni-berlin.de...
>
> "Paul J. Hurley" <hurleyp@NoSpam.caliban.com> wrote in message
> news:s178o01rac4p40njugeuit8c5ir9um7d2k@4ax.com...
> > In case you missed it, the TechConnect web site has a brief article:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/4j6zr
> >
> > "NVIDIA has began confirming the video acceleration functionality of
> > the 6800 series GPU has a hardware flaw and will never work."
> >
>
> That's perhaps correct. On the other hand it could be complete bollocks.
>
> There are other "anonymous" nVidia contributors (the article's illiterate
> author actually called him a "unanimous" nVidia contributor, LOL) who say
> the video processor IS working correctly.

You most certainly do have a point there. It might be an employee who is
angry for some reason. In that case, it might be sort of a "hoax". Let's
hope so!

Greetings,
Rene

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Chip wrote:
> "Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there> wrote in message
> news:9Tygd.49824$bk1.696@fed1read05...
>
>>Update:
>>
>>http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20041029125458.html
>>
>>Ed Light
>
>
> Much as I thought. They have fixed the Video Processor in later chip
> revisions, hence it works on the PCI Express card:
>
> "While NVIDIA now says HD WMV acceleration is only supported by the GeForce
> 6600-series graphics processing units, X-bit labs has found that at least on
> some drivers the HDTV acceleration works on the GeForce 6800 GT PCI Express
> graphics cards. AGP flavour of the GeForce 6800 GT did not provide HDTV
> hardware decoding on the same driver version."
>
> The very worrying bit is that it did not work on the AGP card.... which is
> the one that everyone owns and which all the fuss is about. No-one is
> doubting nVidia's ability to fix the problem with later chips. What we are
> all wondering about is how they are going to fix it with *our* cards!
>
> Chip
>
>
They're not going to, I'm guessing.

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On Sat, 30 Oct 2004 10:26:47 +0100, "Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net>
wrote:

>"Ed Light" <nobody@nobody.there> wrote in message
>news:9Tygd.49824$bk1.696@fed1read05...
>> Update:
>>
>> http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video [...] 25458.html
>>
>> Ed Light
>
>Much as I thought. They have fixed the Video Processor in later chip
>revisions, hence it works on the PCI Express card:
>
>"While NVIDIA now says HD WMV acceleration is only supported by the GeForce
>6600-series graphics processing units, X-bit labs has found that at least on
>some drivers the HDTV acceleration works on the GeForce 6800 GT PCI Express
>graphics cards. AGP flavour of the GeForce 6800 GT did not provide HDTV
>hardware decoding on the same driver version."
>
>The very worrying bit is that it did not work on the AGP card.... which is
>the one that everyone owns and which all the fuss is about. No-one is
>doubting nVidia's ability to fix the problem with later chips. What we are
>all wondering about is how they are going to fix it with *our* cards!
>
>Chip
>
>


One of the penalties of being an "early adopter". I have held off
buying a 6800-series card until the driver for the video processor was
fully up and running. I have some past experience in both the use
and design of complex silicon - and have learned that hardware
test-suites are an incomplete substitute for a fully-working driver
in terms of debugging a chip. No doubt the problem will be
fixed for the AGP user with the first die-shrink of the 6800 family.
Both NVidia and Ati will be continuing to support AGP for a long
time in the PC-peripheral-upgrade market. The die-shrinks that
both are planning to release will address both power and
chip-cost issues as well as fixing hardware-bugs.

John Lewis

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On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:36:41 -0000, "Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net>
wrote:

>
>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
>> No doubt the problem will be
>> fixed for the AGP user with the first die-shrink of the 6800 family.
>>
>
>I am sure it will be fixed before that. I wouldn't be at all surprised if
>the silicon now being delivered is fixed in fact. I would think a new
>stepping will contain a fix.
>

Since I have zero inclination to remove the heat-sink to ascertain the

Rev version, I shall give the 6800GT (AGP) and the X800 (AGP) a pass.
Still have my trusty overclocked 5900 (non-XT). Will probably wait
for a dual PCI-express motherboard to give the option of running
the 6800 in SLI mode. A FX53/nForce4 motherboard combo would be
extremely attractive.

John Lewis.

>Chip
>
>

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Chip wrote:

>
> "John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:41902767.1118197@news.verizon.net...
>> On Mon, 8 Nov 2004 09:36:41 -0000, "Chip" <anneonymouse@virgin.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"John Lewis" <john.dsl@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> No doubt the problem will be
>>>> fixed for the AGP user with the first die-shrink of the 6800 family.
>>>>
>>>
>>>I am sure it will be fixed before that. I wouldn't be at all surprised
>>>if
>>>the silicon now being delivered is fixed in fact. I would think a new
>>>stepping will contain a fix.
>>>
>>
>> Since I have zero inclination to remove the heat-sink to ascertain the
>>
>> Rev version, I shall give the 6800GT (AGP) and the X800 (AGP) a pass.
>> Still have my trusty overclocked 5900 (non-XT). Will probably wait
>> for a dual PCI-express motherboard to give the option of running
>> the 6800 in SLI mode. A FX53/nForce4 motherboard combo would be
>> extremely attractive.
>
> Er, so would a shag with Cameron Diaz. Not going to get that either ;-)

Now, watch, 80 years from now you're going to be in the old folks home and
who's the widow next door going to be? Be careful what you wish for
<grin>.
>
> Chip

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