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I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download email
with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I can reset all
of the programs to allow it to access the internet) how do I get my email
working again?

Thanks!!

Eddie G

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"Eddie G" <mickeddie@(removeme)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:6eOdnTKwIo8i87benZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download email
>with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I can reset all
>of the programs to allow it to access the internet) how do I get my email
>working again?

I forgot to mention I am using the free version of ZA and am using Windows
XP home. I can use OE for newsgroups with no challenges there.

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Eddie G <mickeddie@(removeme)comcast.net> wrote:
> "Eddie G" <mickeddie@(removeme)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6eOdnTKwIo8i87benZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download email
> >with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I can reset all
> >of the programs to allow it to access the internet) how do I get my email
> >working again?
> I forgot to mention I am using the free version of ZA and am using Windows
> XP home. I can use OE for newsgroups with no challenges there.

Then you also can use the Windows-Firewall instead of ZA.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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"Eddie G" <mickeddie@(removeme)comcast.net> wrote in message
news:8sidnQo8PazB4bbenZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Eddie G" <mickeddie@(removeme)comcast.net> wrote in message
> news:6eOdnTKwIo8i87benZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download
email
> >with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I can
reset all
> >of the programs to allow it to access the internet) how do I get my
email
> >working again?
>
> I forgot to mention I am using the free version of ZA and am using
Windows
> XP home. I can use OE for newsgroups with no challenges there.
>
>
Hi Eddie, I believe a lot of people had this problem after upgrading
on top of the old one. You can uninstall and re-install the new
version to solve the problem, hopefully. Check it out at the ZoneLabs
Forums. Link is inside the Help file.
charlie R

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Eddie G wrote:

>I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download email
>with OE.
>

Disabling MS software of every kind is a good safe bet. Enjoy it. And
get a proper browser, mail client, and news client.


--
Godwin is a net-nazi

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Eddie G wrote:
> I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to download
> email with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I
> can reset all of the programs to allow it to access the internet) how
> do I get my email working again?
>
> Thanks!!
>
> Eddie G

Is the following message relevent;

"Your server has unexpectedly terminated the connection. Possible causes for
this include server problems, network problems, or a long period of
inactivity. Account: 'pop.charter.net', Server: 'pop.charter.net', Protocol:
POP3, Server Response: '+OK 5322 octets', Port: 110, Secure(SSL): No, Socket
Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F"

If so;

This problem may be caused due to ZA blocking Norton Antivirus email
scanning. If you have NAV (or some other antivirus program), try disabling
email scanning and see if your mail will download. If it will, you've
identified the problem.

PS: email scanning is totally unnecessary.

--
Sir_George

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"Sir_George" <Sir_George-newsgrp-cis@spamex.com> wrote in message
news:3p350nF8epusU1@individual.net...
> Eddie G wrote:
> > I just upgraded Zone Alarm and now it will not allow me to
download
> > email with OE. Other than uninstalling and re-installing ZA (so I
> > can reset all of the programs to allow it to access the internet)
how
> > do I get my email working again?
> >
> > Thanks!!
> >
> > Eddie G

> Error: 10053, Error Number: 0x800CCC0F"
>
> If so;
>
> This problem may be caused due to ZA blocking Norton Antivirus email
> scanning. If you have NAV (or some other antivirus program), try
disabling
> email scanning and see if your mail will download. If it will,
you've
> identified the problem.
>
> PS: email scanning is totally unnecessary.
>
> --
> Sir_George

I agree with that 100%. email scanning causes no end of problems, and
isn't necessary at all. Realtime scanning will pop up and keep you
from opening anything bad. Some AV's use a proxy for email, and
you'll have to disable it in the app's settings. It will interfere
with Mailsafe in ZAP also. I disable that also.

charlie R

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"charlie R" <welpctSKIPME@psci.net> wrote in message
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>
<<SNIP>>
>> --
>> Sir_George
>
> I agree with that 100%. email scanning causes no end of problems, and
> isn't necessary at all. Realtime scanning will pop up and keep you
> from opening anything bad. Some AV's use a proxy for email, and
> you'll have to disable it in the app's settings. It will interfere
> with Mailsafe in ZAP also. I disable that also.
>
> charlie R
>

You've got me confused. You're saying that scanning emails with antivirus
software is unnecessary! Please explain that a bit for me. I'm under the
impression that email is one of the major ways of getting virus's into my
computer. I've got personal firewall as well as Norton Anti-virus software.

Thanks for your help.

DaveS

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DaveS wrote:
> "charlie R" <welpctSKIPME@psci.net> wrote in message
> newsghpse$epn$1@pscinews.psci.net...
>>
> <<SNIP>>
>>> --
>>> Sir_George
>>
>> I agree with that 100%. email scanning causes no end of problems,
>> and isn't necessary at all. Realtime scanning will pop up and keep
>> you from opening anything bad. Some AV's use a proxy for email, and
>> you'll have to disable it in the app's settings. It will interfere
>> with Mailsafe in ZAP also. I disable that also.
>>
>> charlie R
>>
>
> You've got me confused. You're saying that scanning emails with
> antivirus software is unnecessary! Please explain that a bit for me.
> I'm under the impression that email is one of the major ways of
> getting virus's into my computer. I've got personal firewall as well
> as Norton Anti-virus software.
> Thanks for your help.
>
> DaveS

Almost every anti-virus program for Windows installs by default a system
scan that runs in the background every time Windows starts. This scan is
necessary to protect your computer. If you receive a virus in an e-mail
attachment, the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open the
attachment.

See;
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/I [...] ption.mspx
to read the rest of this article and for more detailed information.

--
Sir_George

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"Sir_George" <Sir_George-newsgrp-cis@spamex.com> wrote in message
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<<SNIP>>
>
> Almost every anti-virus program for Windows installs by default a system
> scan that runs in the background every time Windows starts. This scan is
> necessary to protect your computer. If you receive a virus in an e-mail
> attachment, the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open
> the attachment.
>
> See;
> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/I [...] ption.mspx
> to read the rest of this article and for more detailed information.
>
> --
> Sir_George
>
>
>

"..... the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open the
attachment...." At which time, I assume the anti-virus protection will
kick in and "kill" the virus.

I, therefore, assume that in essence if I am checking incoming emails and
then check later for any virus in the attachments (at start up as described
above) that I'm doing double duty and wasting cycles on my PC?

DaveS

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DaveS wrote:
> "Sir_George" <Sir_George-newsgrp-cis@spamex.com> wrote in message
> news:3p7u0mF8qcddU1@individual.net...
> <<SNIP>>
>>
>> Almost every anti-virus program for Windows installs by default a
>> system scan that runs in the background every time Windows starts.
>> This scan is necessary to protect your computer. If you receive a
>> virus in an e-mail attachment, the virus cannot do anything at all
>> until you actually open the attachment.
>>
>> See;
>> http://www.microsoft.com/windows/I [...] ption.mspx
>> to read the rest of this article and for more detailed information.
>>
>> --
>> Sir_George
>>
>>
>>
>
> "..... the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open the
> attachment...." At which time, I assume the anti-virus protection
> will kick in and "kill" the virus.
>
> I, therefore, assume that in essence if I am checking incoming emails
> and then check later for any virus in the attachments (at start up as
> described above) that I'm doing double duty and wasting cycles on my
> PC?
> DaveS

Correct!

--
Sir_George

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Sir_George <Sir_George-newsgrp-cis@spamex.com> wrote:
> Almost every anti-virus program for Windows installs by default a system
> scan that runs in the background every time Windows starts. This scan is
> necessary to protect your computer.

I don't think so. This speacial "background scanning" is not a good idea,
because it only costs resources, and is almost useless.

> If you receive a virus in an e-mail
> attachment, the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open the
> attachment.

Yes. And because this, it's a very good idea to scan everything, before
it's used in your system. This means, your virus scanner should scan any
mail, before it's "opened" by you in your MTA.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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DaveS <davesamp@spam.net> wrote:
> "..... the virus cannot do anything at all until you actually open the
> attachment...." At which time, I assume the anti-virus protection will
> kick in and "kill" the virus.

This is a dangerous thinking. Of course, if you have a good virus scanner,
it will find all viruses it knows (for which it's so important to keep it
up to date). But there may be unknown viruses, too, and your virus scanner
cannot find them. It is a good idea to handle everything with care, even
if you have an actual virus scanner.

> I, therefore, assume that in essence if I am checking incoming emails and
> then check later for any virus in the attachments (at start up as described
> above) that I'm doing double duty and wasting cycles on my PC?

Yes.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"

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Eric D <youdont.needthis@hh.com> wrote:
> I have rebooted and still Zone Alarm does not function.

*sigh* - some people don't want to learn.

> My operating system is XP Professional SP1 and connection to the Internet is
> via dial-up modem using IE as the browser.

This is catastrophic. Please do use SP2. And perhaps another browser.

Yours,
VB.
--
"Es kann nicht sein, dass die Frustrierten in Rom bestimmen, was in
deutschen Schlafzimmern passiert".
Harald Schmidt zum "Weltjugendtag"