Video card advice needed

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I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.
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"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.
> .
You would probably be held back by the cpu if you went with a 6800 gt or
maybe even the regular 6800. Probably the best bet would be the 6600gt if
your not planning to upgrade your cpu anytime soon. There only around
200-250 also. But if your planning on upgrading the cpu 3200
or higher , go for the 6800 or 6800gt.
Btw, where is the asus geforce 6800gt for 330 ? Ive been looking for a good
price on one.
TIA
 
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Go 6600

"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.
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"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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" I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
SDRAM. "


http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=20

Your Abit KD7-E can take 333FSB Athlons (up to 3000+), DDR333 RAM, and has
an AGP4x port. You didn't state the speed of your RAM, so I would advise
that you do the following:

1) Buy an AGP GeForce 6600GT.
2) Buy an Athlon XP 3000+ (333FSB version).
3) If your RAM isn't up to DDR333 speeds, buy 2x 512MB PC3200.
4) Sell your XP 1700+, GeForce3 and RAM on eBay.

The above should easily be achievable for $350, recovering some of the
initial outlay with your sales.
 

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On Sun, 12 Dec 2004 00:29:21 -0000, "Cuzman" <cuzNOSPAM@supanet.com>
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>"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>" I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
>SDRAM. "
>
>
>http://www.abit-usa.com/products/mb/products.php?categories=1&model=20
>
>Your Abit KD7-E can take 333FSB Athlons (up to 3000+), DDR333 RAM, and has
>an AGP4x port. You didn't state the speed of your RAM, so I would advise
>that you do the following:
>
>1) Buy an AGP GeForce 6600GT.
>2) Buy an Athlon XP 3000+ (333FSB version).
>3) If your RAM isn't up to DDR333 speeds, buy 2x 512MB PC3200.
>4) Sell your XP 1700+, GeForce3 and RAM on eBay.
>
>The above should easily be achievable for $350, recovering some of the
>initial outlay with your sales.
>
>
Great idea. Thanks to everyone for the replies.
 

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On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 23:42:20 GMT, "lonesw0rdsman" <geo@neo.net> wrote:

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>"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
>> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
>> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
>> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
>> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
>> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.
>> .
>You would probably be held back by the cpu if you went with a 6800 gt or
>maybe even the regular 6800. Probably the best bet would be the 6600gt if
>your not planning to upgrade your cpu anytime soon. There only around
>200-250 also. But if your planning on upgrading the cpu 3200
>or higher , go for the 6800 or 6800gt.
>Btw, where is the asus geforce 6800gt for 330 ? Ive been looking for a good
>price on one.
>TIA
>
http://www.pricewatch.com/ search on "asus 6800 gt". Thanks for the
help.
 
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"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.

I wouldn't get the 6800GT as it will be seriously limited by your current
CPU. In fact, probably the fasted video card I would get for your system is
an ATI 9800Pro. Even a 6600GT would be limited by your CPU.
 
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"Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.

Get 6600GT, it's the Ti4200 of today.
 
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RaceFace wrote:
> "Robert" <roel29@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:vgakr05um25s64h5ovu4kakqot4ule262e@4ax.com...
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>> I have an Athlon XP 1800+ on an Abit KD7-E mobo with a GF3 and 768MB
>> SDRAM. I don't want to upgrade my whole system, but just get a video
>> card that will allow me to play HL2 as well as possible with my
>> current system. What card would you recommend compatible with this
>> system in the $200-$350 range? Would an ASUS GeForce 6800GT for $330
>> be the best bang for the money? Thanks for any assistance.
>
> I wouldn't get the 6800GT as it will be seriously limited by your
> current CPU. In fact, probably the fasted video card I would get for
> your system is an ATI 9800Pro. Even a 6600GT would be limited by
> your CPU.

What if he upgrades CPU/mobo in the near future? It couldn't hurt to have
too much GPU now to insure future ability, no?

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>What if he upgrades CPU/mobo in the near future? It couldn't hurt to have
>too much GPU now to insure future ability, no?
>
>dvus

I agree. I read that a lot and it doesn't make any sense. The video card will
most likely be used in the future so get what ever you can afford even if it it
is limited by your CPU. You could even pass it on to someone in future.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:

>>What if he upgrades CPU/mobo in the near future? It couldn't hurt to have
>>too much GPU now to insure future ability, no?
>>
>>dvus
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> I agree. I read that a lot and it doesn't make any sense. The video card
> will most likely be used in the future so get what ever you can afford
> even if it it is limited by your CPU. You could even pass it on to someone
> in future.

The trouble, at the moment, is that the high performance motherboard that
one buys in the future is probably not going to have an AGP slot.

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>The trouble, at the moment, is that the high performance motherboard that
>one buys in the future is probably not going to have an AGP slot.

Yeah that might be true, but I think the 6600GT offers so much more then a
9800Pro. It has improved video playback, its faster, and newer DirectX
revisions.

He could also give the card to a relative or friend, like I have done. If two
cards cost the same amount, and one is faster why not get the faster card even
if you can't use the extra speed at this time. If you don't, it doesn't matter
you didn't pay anything extra for it.

I also think there will still be AGP motherboards around for at least another
year or two.
 
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PRIVATE1964 wrote:

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>>The trouble, at the moment, is that the high performance motherboard that
>>one buys in the future is probably not going to have an AGP slot.
>
> Yeah that might be true, but I think the 6600GT offers so much more then a
> 9800Pro. It has improved video playback, its faster, and newer DirectX
> revisions.
>
> He could also give the card to a relative or friend, like I have done. If
> two cards cost the same amount, and one is faster why not get the faster
> card even if you can't use the extra speed at this time. If you don't, it
> doesn't matter you didn't pay anything extra for it.
>
> I also think there will still be AGP motherboards around for at least
> another year or two.

There probably will, but they probably won't be better than current AGP
motherboards. If they have Intel chipsets they certainly won't be, because
Intel has dropped AGP across the board. It's not clear what nvidia, SiS,
and via are going to do, but if their first generation of PCI Express
chipsets is any indication they aren't going to be providing both AGP and
PCI Express on the same chipset. What's not clear is whether they are
going to continue to bring out new AGP chipsets with new features or if
they are going to put AGP on the back burner and concentrate on PCI Express
for all future development.

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>There probably will, but they probably won't be better than current AGP
>motherboards.

From his intial post, I don't believe he was using the fastest CPU in its
model. So down the road he upgrades the CPU to go along with the 6600GT he
already has. That is only if he is using a motherboard right now that he can
upgrade the CPU on.
I just think having that frame of mind of being locked to your CPU speed for a
video card is wrong IMO. Get as much video speed as you can afford and don't
worry about your CPU speed. If it gets to a point where the CPU is limiting the
graphic card speed, then so what...at least you know for sure your getting all
you can out of that graphic card. A CPU limiting a graphic cards performance is
not an exact science IMO.