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I'll keep it short... don't get an FX 5500. Hold on to your Ti4600 for a bit
longer....
Jon.
"...D." <d@no_usenet_email..org> wrote in message
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> Steve Reeves <steve@stever.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>I have looked at the FX5700LE 128Mb 8x - has the features I need (dual
>>head / DX9 etc.) but I understand it is not much faster than the Ti4600.
>>The 5900XT seems the way to go but I understand that it needs a molex
>>connection and a 350W PSU - where mine is only 300W.
>>Is there a happy medium between the 2? I would really be grateful for
>>any advice and suggetsion regarding what card/chipset I should be
>>looking at. Budget is about £120 GBP - not looking for cutting edge
>>until I upgrade my mobo and CPU next year sometime.
>>Many thanks for any guidance.
>
> Have you looked into the model - nVIDIA GeForce FX5500 Video Card, 256MB?
> DDR, 128-bit, DVI/TV-Out, 8X AGP - BUS: AGP 4X/8X -- $92 at newegg:
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-130-197&depa=0
> (128 MB can be had in stores around here on sale right now for $59).
>
> I do not know what a molex connnector is, never heard of it - can't you
> add one? The good cards come with one - If it comes with the card, is it
> useable then, or do you need to add something to your computer to be able
> to use it?
>
> If you are going to spend $180 - $200 for a 5900XT, absolutely best card
> to get in this price range, far and away above anything except a Radeon
> 9800 Pro (beats it though), is the new nVidia 6600GT 128 MB. The AGP
> version has a molex connector onboard the spec said somewhere.. But
> problem for you - I see 8x only listed for the few models they have right
> now in the AGP, not listed as 4x & 8x. It specs a 300 watt power supply
> minimum I believe, not 350 or more. GFor anyone else reading this, the
> AGP 6600GT is $229 at newegg - AGP 8x, not AGP 4x & 8x:
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-140-048&depa=0
>
> (If any of you looking in have a newer motherbard PCI-Express (PCIE) there
> are a lot of 6600GTs for sale - in which case starting at $185 new, & $159
> refurb at newegg.
>
> Have you considered a Raeon 9800 Pro? Many are 4x 8x cards, with this
> weird-to-me molex connector with them. At newegg maybe one model for $205
> or so - but the prices depend a lot on the manufactirer & the bundle of
> games or no games that come with it - for a 9800 Pro card with half-life2
> bundled is $154. or with Doom 3 maybe $229 (have to look).
>
> My computer manufacturer told me this:
> "Your system has an AU31 motherboard, which is manufactured by FIC and has
> an AGP slot that complies with AGP 3.0 and supports 1.5V/0.8V 4X/8X AGP
> video cards." So I'll be able to use a 8x AGP only card I guess.
>
> By the way, again, if you are looking to spend that $200, a
> ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit, DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X
> AGP, Model "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO" BUS: AGP 4X/8X -- -- $239.
>
> Here, here is the ATI AIW RADEON 9800PRO Video Card, 128MB DDR, 256-bit,
> DVI/CATV/VIVO, 8X AGP, Model "ALL-IN-WONDER 9800 PRO (BUS: AGP 4X/8X),
> "All-In-Wonder" having a few more features than a standard 9800 Pro.
>
http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=14-102-297&depa=0
>
> ...D.
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> ------- (quote):
> NVIDIA's launch of its GeForce 6600GT last month embarked a new price to
> performance ratio that's meant gamers on a budget could in fact enjoy
> excellent performance in many of today's shipping games with a bit of
> headroom for the future. Its 8-pixel pipeline architecture operating at a
> whopping 500 Megahertz brings very nice gaming prowess in a package under
> $200 dollars. What was missing, however, was an AGP version of it so the
> masses could all take advantage of it.
>
> The wait will soon be over as the AGP version will start shipping to
> retail outlets everywhere very soon.
>
> This card looks rather identical to the PCI-Express version with the
> exception of a single Molex power connector - PCI Express can deliver more
> voltage thru the bus as opposed to AGP so that's why this card does have
> the Molex connector. Additionally, our reference card was equipped with
> dual DVI outputs as opposed to the single VGA and DVI outputs on the PCI-E
> version. The heatsink is also a bit different as it not only has a
> spiffy-looking Doom 3 sticker - it's mounted at a more abrupt angle as
> well.
>
> The 500MHz GPU core and 900MHz (450MHz DDR) memory are here as well, and
> like the PCI-E version this one does have a bit of headroom in it for
> overclocking as well. Using NVIDIA's overclocking driver tool, we were
> able to push our card ever-so-slightly up a bit to 5480MHz on the GPU core
> and 1.12MHz on the RAM side.
>
> Our only wish here is that NVIDIA would release a 256MB version as many of
> the future games - and even a few current ones - can really take advantage
> of additional on-board memory, especially in light of the fact that this
> is using the more bandwidth-challenged AGP bus.
>
> Even though ATI released its X700 to the press last month, the key thing
> NVIDIA has going for it is that it's beating ATI in most of our benchmarks
> and it appears to be winning in the department of actually shipping its
> product in volume and now with an AGP part as well.
>
> Additionally, the same, built-in video acceleration technology helps
> improve overall video quality for Windows Media Center - its
> high-definition support makes some nice improvements for videophiles.
>
> Since the NV43 GPU is a native PCI-Express chip, NVIDIA had to use an
> internal HIS (High Speed Interconnect) bridge chip to go from PCI-E to AGP
> 8x. This helped them save time and money and get an AGP part out more
> quickly.
>
> The nice thing about this bridge chip is that it allows the inner
> circuitry of the GPU to run at a the full PCI-Express bandwidth of 8
> Gigabytes per second - it doesn't slow down until it's translated to the
> AGP8x spec. What this means is that NVIDIA should be able to take
> advantage of AGP16x bandwidth whenever it gets released.
> -- (end quote)
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