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You see that a lot, people trying to make where the parts were made vs.
where the box was assembled as being one and the same. I understood
your message and what the actual meaning of BUILT means as most people
that have capabilities of dimensional thought would.
You are right about local builds (white boxes) being the way to go.
After I gave up on Gateway, Dell and all the other scam artists, I went
the white box route also. I asked around and found that there were 4
highly reputable builders local to my local. After settling on one, I
have had him build three systems for me to date. Of the three, one had
a few problems of which he immediately took care of personally. Like
you said, he's the one who built the system so he's the best one to
service the system because his reputation rides on this plus, he speaks
English and lives just down the road.
Community thinking also dictates that the profits he makes on each
system are mostly spent right back in the community thus adding to a
strong and viable local economy. Even though my last system cost
around $150 more than what Gateway would have charged for a system
assembled with comparable parts, $80 of that $150 would have gone into
shipping the GW system here and for the $70 left of the difference, I
think local, face to face, English speaking support from a neighbor
that actually has a service minded clue is well worth that extra $70.
This whole thing comes down to supporting the merchants of your own
community when possible. And I'm not talking about that Wal-Mart
thing either. They wanted to move into our community and our city said
fine, we want 30% of the store profits spent right back here in this
community. And that doesn't include the minimum wage salaries for
the 15-20 local people that they will employ. Hell, we can come up
with Minimum wage positions in our area all day long so we don't need
Wal-Mart coming in here and offering what we can already establish.
Well, we don't have a Wal-Mart here (grin). Actually, we have two
department stores that have been here since the 30's (that's
1930's for the young'uns on here). The people working in them make
more than what Wal-Mart said they would pay. They offer just about
everything Wal-Mart has and their prices are not that much more when
compared to Wal-Mart prices. My wife did a check on this one day. She
priced 33 items at one of our local department stores and then priced
the same items at the Wal-Mart 30 miles down the road. Those 33 items
listed for $124 at the local Department store while Wal-Mart had the
same 33 items for $118. She would end up paying just $6 more to do
business with a local establishment who's entire profits of that $124
would most likely have been injected right back into the local
community where the profits in Wal-Mart's $118 would have gone to
DirtWater BoonDog or wherever they send their money to.
People, People, PEOPLE.... Find a reputable local white box builder
and do your business with them. Keep you money in your own community
and get a bonus.... Support from the same planet that you live on.
Send these conglomerates that have sold you and your country out back
to hell where they were spawned.
NIK
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Shooter wrote:
> On Tue, 03 May 2005 18:11:25 GMT, "Tweek"
> <shawnwingetNOSPAM@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >With current PC manufacturers, there are no computers at all
actually
> >manufactured in America. They might be assembled here, but the
components in
> >them are all manufactured overseas.
>
> We all know that the components are made out of country as we all
know
> the wording "manufactured in America" means assembled in America,
thus
> my meaning that Gateway does not make the computers it tries to make
> the public believe it does.
>
> However, one can buy a system made in America (made meaning assembled
> as it does to most people). My last two systems were made in America
> (assembled in America for those not understanding the meaning). Its
> called white boxing and most cities have reputable white box builders
> (assemblers to those not trying to complicate the issue). Those two
> last systems have the same length of support "Claimed" by the
> conglomerates but is actually given and is given not only by someone
> in my own country, speaking my own language but living in the same
> town I live in. Actually, my support comes from the actual person
> that built my system (assembled to those that don't understand the
> actual meaning of the topic).
>
> Now, as far as laptops and TV's, there are no white box builders
> (assemblers to those without a clue to the topic) in most towns if
any
> so one has no choice but to buy systems built (assembled for funnies)
> out of country.
>
> The only thing actually Built, Assembled, Manufactured, etc. in
> America are the commercials made by these conglomerates which tries
to
> make the sheep think their products was actually built (assembled for
> those trying to confuse the topic) in America. Gateway use to run an
> Ad a couple of years back that showed an assembly line with Americans
> on it with bright white smiling teeth grinning to beat all while
> Building (assembling) systems for American consumption. Word had it
> that they got busted for that ad and had to remove it from the air
> because at that time, gateway was no longer doing anything in America
> but running sales phone banks. That is when the infamous ad showing
> herds of idiots running through fields of green delivering cow boxes
> full of Taiwanese built (assembled for the challenged) systems came
on
> the scene. I hear that Dell is also coming under fire for that
> commercial showing some idiot in bed calling Dell support and talking
> to what is evidently an north American dialect speaking person that
> looks an awful lot like a North American. Call Dell support and see
> what you actually get.
>
> If anyone wants a system built in America (no matter where the "Guts"
> comes from), then support your local white box builder. You also get
> local support from a person that actually has a clue as to how a
> computer works that not only lives on your side of the world but
> probably lives in your same town. My last two have been such and I
> haven't regretted it since.
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