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Anonymous
January 15, 2005 3:37:30 AM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be running
OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some help in
identifying the what the solution to the problem is.

1. When playing back videos, especially streaming videos, to me, the image
quality does not seem to be very sharp

2. I have experimented with the video card settings and have encountered
problems while playing games. Specifically, I have used the card for FS 2004
and Rainbox Six 3: Raven Shield. During gameplay in both games, the game
would simply stop as if it was frozen. When trying to get to the task
manager, windows didn't want to display it. After about a minute or so, the
game started to work again as though nothing had happened. This same "game
freeze" would then occur again a few seconds later.

3. Also during gameplay, I was getting small black/white squares on the
screen. I have connected the card to my power supply.

4. Flight Simulator (FS) 2004 has anti-aliasing capability. I have turned
that off and turned that option on using the NVIDIA display properties.
These game freezes seem to be happening when the AA is adjusted.

I have a Dell computer, and as I understand it, I would have to get a power
supply from Dell. The only other one that they have is a 305W. PC power and
cooling has Dell power supplies. According to their system configurator, the
one that would accomodate my system is a 425W selling for about $150.

I want to get into gaming and have a good display with good frame rates,
which is why I got this card. I am not familiar with what all the settings
are for this particular card. Can anyone help me out?

System Info:
Dell Dimmension 8300
XP Home SP1
250W PSU
P4 2.6GHz
512 MB Ram
PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB w/ driver version 66.93 installed
Direct X 9.0c

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Anonymous
January 15, 2005 9:23:58 AM

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"Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bKOdneWYkLaEMXXcRVn-2w@comcast.com...
>I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be
>running
> OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some help
> in
> identifying the what the solution to the problem is.
>
> 1. When playing back videos, especially streaming videos, to me, the
> image
> quality does not seem to be very sharp
>
> 2. I have experimented with the video card settings and have encountered
> problems while playing games. Specifically, I have used the card for FS
> 2004
> and Rainbox Six 3: Raven Shield. During gameplay in both games, the game
> would simply stop as if it was frozen. When trying to get to the task
> manager, windows didn't want to display it. After about a minute or so,
> the
> game started to work again as though nothing had happened. This same "game
> freeze" would then occur again a few seconds later.
>
> 3. Also during gameplay, I was getting small black/white squares on the
> screen. I have connected the card to my power supply.
>
> 4. Flight Simulator (FS) 2004 has anti-aliasing capability. I have turned
> that off and turned that option on using the NVIDIA display properties.
> These game freezes seem to be happening when the AA is adjusted.
>
> I have a Dell computer, and as I understand it, I would have to get a
> power
> supply from Dell. The only other one that they have is a 305W. PC power
> and
> cooling has Dell power supplies. According to their system configurator,
> the
> one that would accomodate my system is a 425W selling for about $150.
>
> I want to get into gaming and have a good display with good frame rates,
> which is why I got this card. I am not familiar with what all the settings
> are for this particular card. Can anyone help me out?
>
> System Info:
> Dell Dimmension 8300
> XP Home SP1
> 250W PSU
> P4 2.6GHz
> 512 MB Ram
> PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB w/ driver version 66.93 installed
> Direct X 9.0c
>
>


Firstly, get rid of that power supply ond go to your local electronics place
and pick up a quality 400-500W model. It will work in your Dell. I'm prayin'
that you're talkin' Canadian dollars, 'cause $150 is crazy high......

For $75-$100 you can get a nice Ultra, Antec, Sparkle, etc. brand that'll do
you right. Get back to us after playing all your games with the new supply
installed if you're still having probs...

!bungle

Windows XP SP2
DFI LanParty UT nF3 250Gb
w/stock BIOS 9/14
AMD64 3200+ Newcastle CG
2X512MB Kingston HyperX PC3200
BFG GeForce 6600GT OC AGP 8X w/128MB DDR3
2X60GB Maxtor SATA HD RAID
Artec DVD/CDRW 52X
Ultra ULT-31646 500W w/CPS
CoolerMaster Centurion 5 Aircooled
Saitek PC Gaming KB
Logitech MX510
Envision EFT920
Logitech X-230
NO OVERCLOCKING (except BFG factory OC Videocard)
Anonymous
January 15, 2005 5:23:53 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 06:23:58 GMT, "!bungle" <stratosrally@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:bKOdneWYkLaEMXXcRVn-2w@comcast.com...
>>I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be
>>running
>> OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some help
>> in
>> identifying the what the solution to the problem is.
[snip...snip...]
>
>Firstly, get rid of that power supply ond go to your local electronics place
>and pick up a quality 400-500W model. It will work in your Dell.

Don't assume that any generic ATX power supply will work on any
particular Dell motherboard. IIRC, some Dells have non-standard power
connectors and (worse) some connectors that appear to be standard have
different wiring within the connector.

If the OP wants to try a generic power supply (a reasonable idea) then
he really needs to KNOW what the pinout is for his mobo power connector
and check that against the off-the-shelf power supply.

There are also some third-party adapters that will fit between the PS
and the mobo. Still, it's necessary to know the specific Dell layout.

http://www.endpcnoise.com/cgi-bin/e/dellconverter.html and others

--
Rich Webb Norfolk, VA
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January 15, 2005 5:54:59 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

You will need a power supply of at least a 350watt rating for a 6600GT. But
.........
It seems that no matter what make 6600GT AGP you have you will have major
lock-up problems. Look at earlier posts - Leadtek, MSI, XFX, Gainward
etc., - they all have same problem. I bought the BFG version - bought a new
power supply to accomodate it. Applied latest bios, latest SIS drivers,
latest Nvidia driver. It seems that with the limited access to my bios that
I have on the Medion MD50000 motherboard (MS-6071) I shall also have to buy
a new motherboard. My advice is don't buy the 6600GT from any manufacturer
until Nvidia can get one working straight out of the box. I cannot find
anywhere where any 6600Gt AGP board manufacturer (including Nvidia) says
that xxxx motherboard is not supported. I have spent so much time on this
problem in the last ten days that I am now way way behind in my work so I
will have to refit my Ti4200 so that I will have a stable working system
once again.

To repeat my advice - don't!

--
Regards
Spencer

"Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:bKOdneWYkLaEMXXcRVn-2w@comcast.com...
> I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be
running
> OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some help
in
> identifying the what the solution to the problem is.
>
> 1. When playing back videos, especially streaming videos, to me, the
image
> quality does not seem to be very sharp
>
> 2. I have experimented with the video card settings and have encountered
> problems while playing games. Specifically, I have used the card for FS
2004
> and Rainbox Six 3: Raven Shield. During gameplay in both games, the game
> would simply stop as if it was frozen. When trying to get to the task
> manager, windows didn't want to display it. After about a minute or so,
the
> game started to work again as though nothing had happened. This same "game
> freeze" would then occur again a few seconds later.
>
> 3. Also during gameplay, I was getting small black/white squares on the
> screen. I have connected the card to my power supply.
>
> 4. Flight Simulator (FS) 2004 has anti-aliasing capability. I have turned
> that off and turned that option on using the NVIDIA display properties.
> These game freezes seem to be happening when the AA is adjusted.
>
> I have a Dell computer, and as I understand it, I would have to get a
power
> supply from Dell. The only other one that they have is a 305W. PC power
and
> cooling has Dell power supplies. According to their system configurator,
the
> one that would accomodate my system is a 425W selling for about $150.
>
> I want to get into gaming and have a good display with good frame rates,
> which is why I got this card. I am not familiar with what all the settings
> are for this particular card. Can anyone help me out?
>
> System Info:
> Dell Dimmension 8300
> XP Home SP1
> 250W PSU
> P4 2.6GHz
> 512 MB Ram
> PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB w/ driver version 66.93 installed
> Direct X 9.0c
>
>
Anonymous
January 15, 2005 5:55:00 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

"Spencer" <Spencer@NOSPAMClive.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:csbasl$ras$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> You will need a power supply of at least a 350watt rating for a 6600GT.
But
> ........
> It seems that no matter what make 6600GT AGP you have you will have major
> lock-up problems. Look at earlier posts - Leadtek, MSI, XFX, Gainward
> etc., - they all have same problem. I bought the BFG version - bought a
new
> power supply to accomodate it. Applied latest bios, latest SIS drivers,
> latest Nvidia driver. It seems that with the limited access to my bios
that
> I have on the Medion MD50000 motherboard (MS-6071) I shall also have to
buy
> a new motherboard. My advice is don't buy the 6600GT from any manufacturer
> until Nvidia can get one working straight out of the box. I cannot find
> anywhere where any 6600Gt AGP board manufacturer (including Nvidia) says
> that xxxx motherboard is not supported. I have spent so much time on this
> problem in the last ten days that I am now way way behind in my work so I
> will have to refit my Ti4200 so that I will have a stable working system
> once again.
>
> To repeat my advice - don't!
>
> --
> Regards
> Spencer
>
> "Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bKOdneWYkLaEMXXcRVn-2w@comcast.com...
> > I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be
> running
> > OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some
help
> in
> > identifying the what the solution to the problem is.
> >
> > 1. When playing back videos, especially streaming videos, to me, the
> image
> > quality does not seem to be very sharp
> >
> > 2. I have experimented with the video card settings and have encountered
> > problems while playing games. Specifically, I have used the card for FS
> 2004
> > and Rainbox Six 3: Raven Shield. During gameplay in both games, the game
> > would simply stop as if it was frozen. When trying to get to the task
> > manager, windows didn't want to display it. After about a minute or so,
> the
> > game started to work again as though nothing had happened. This same
"game
> > freeze" would then occur again a few seconds later.
> >
> > 3. Also during gameplay, I was getting small black/white squares on the
> > screen. I have connected the card to my power supply.
> >
> > 4. Flight Simulator (FS) 2004 has anti-aliasing capability. I have
turned
> > that off and turned that option on using the NVIDIA display properties.
> > These game freezes seem to be happening when the AA is adjusted.
> >
> > I have a Dell computer, and as I understand it, I would have to get a
> power
> > supply from Dell. The only other one that they have is a 305W. PC power
> and
> > cooling has Dell power supplies. According to their system configurator,
> the
> > one that would accomodate my system is a 425W selling for about $150.
> >
> > I want to get into gaming and have a good display with good frame rates,
> > which is why I got this card. I am not familiar with what all the
settings
> > are for this particular card. Can anyone help me out?
> >
> > System Info:
> > Dell Dimmension 8300
> > XP Home SP1
> > 250W PSU
> > P4 2.6GHz
> > 512 MB Ram
> > PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB w/ driver version 66.93 installed
> > Direct X 9.0c
> >
> >
>
>

Well, I guess I really didn't know that there were so many problems with
this card. I tried to read up on the posts about this card, but I guess I
missed a few important points about it.

If NVIDIA knows that there are problems with this card, wouldn't they
release updated drivers to fix the problems and to provide support for
certain motherboards?

The power supply from pcpowerandcooling.com is $150 U.S. I wanted to get a
new psu for the computer, but I don't know that I can go to a store and buy
one and hope that it works.

When moving the antialiasing and anisotropic to anything other than 2x, the
games will stop working and image quality will degrade very quickly. To me
this seems to indicate a problem.

I would like to hope that I didn't waste $250 on a video card that simply
does not work.
January 15, 2005 8:37:53 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

Antialiasing and Anisotropic should both be left to 'application dependent'
for running 3d games and only selected for some 3d modelling/rendering
programmes.

In the UK a video card that simply does not work costs £200 ($360)! :o (

--
Regards
Spencer



"Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:p _WdnfIi8IjozHTcRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
>
> "Spencer" <Spencer@NOSPAMClive.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:csbasl$ras$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > You will need a power supply of at least a 350watt rating for a 6600GT.
> But
> > ........
> > It seems that no matter what make 6600GT AGP you have you will have
major
> > lock-up problems. Look at earlier posts - Leadtek, MSI, XFX, Gainward
> > etc., - they all have same problem. I bought the BFG version - bought a
> new
> > power supply to accomodate it. Applied latest bios, latest SIS drivers,
> > latest Nvidia driver. It seems that with the limited access to my bios
> that
> > I have on the Medion MD50000 motherboard (MS-6071) I shall also have to
> buy
> > a new motherboard. My advice is don't buy the 6600GT from any
manufacturer
> > until Nvidia can get one working straight out of the box. I cannot find
> > anywhere where any 6600Gt AGP board manufacturer (including Nvidia) says
> > that xxxx motherboard is not supported. I have spent so much time on
this
> > problem in the last ten days that I am now way way behind in my work so
I
> > will have to refit my Ti4200 so that I will have a stable working system
> > once again.
> >
> > To repeat my advice - don't!
> >
> > --
> > Regards
> > Spencer
> >
>
> Well, I guess I really didn't know that there were so many problems with
> this card. I tried to read up on the posts about this card, but I guess I
> missed a few important points about it.
>
> If NVIDIA knows that there are problems with this card, wouldn't they
> release updated drivers to fix the problems and to provide support for
> certain motherboards?
>
> The power supply from pcpowerandcooling.com is $150 U.S. I wanted to get a
> new psu for the computer, but I don't know that I can go to a store and
buy
> one and hope that it works.
>
> When moving the antialiasing and anisotropic to anything other than 2x,
the
> games will stop working and image quality will degrade very quickly. To me
> this seems to indicate a problem.
>
> I would like to hope that I didn't waste $250 on a video card that simply
> does not work.
>
>
Anonymous
January 15, 2005 8:37:54 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

Please go over to alt.binaries.comp-graphics. I have posted a screenshot
from the benchmark demo that shows exactly the problems I am having. The
post will be titled "benchmark screenshot"

I guess since I have not yet purchased the benchmark program I can't run
benchmark tests on my own games.

"Spencer" <Spencer@NOSPAMClive.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:csbke3$thd$1@news6.svr.pol.co.uk...
> Antialiasing and Anisotropic should both be left to 'application
dependent'
> for running 3d games and only selected for some 3d modelling/rendering
> programmes.
>
> In the UK a video card that simply does not work costs £200 ($360)! :o (
>
> --
> Regards
> Spencer
>
>
>
> "Charlie Brookhart" <charliebrookhart46@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:p _WdnfIi8IjozHTcRVn-hQ@comcast.com...
> >
> > "Spencer" <Spencer@NOSPAMClive.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:csbasl$ras$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk...
> > > You will need a power supply of at least a 350watt rating for a
6600GT.
> > But
> > > ........
> > > It seems that no matter what make 6600GT AGP you have you will have
> major
> > > lock-up problems. Look at earlier posts - Leadtek, MSI, XFX, Gainward
> > > etc., - they all have same problem. I bought the BFG version - bought
a
> > new
> > > power supply to accomodate it. Applied latest bios, latest SIS
drivers,
> > > latest Nvidia driver. It seems that with the limited access to my bios
> > that
> > > I have on the Medion MD50000 motherboard (MS-6071) I shall also have
to
> > buy
> > > a new motherboard. My advice is don't buy the 6600GT from any
> manufacturer
> > > until Nvidia can get one working straight out of the box. I cannot
find
> > > anywhere where any 6600Gt AGP board manufacturer (including Nvidia)
says
> > > that xxxx motherboard is not supported. I have spent so much time on
> this
> > > problem in the last ten days that I am now way way behind in my work
so
> I
> > > will have to refit my Ti4200 so that I will have a stable working
system
> > > once again.
> > >
> > > To repeat my advice - don't!
> > >
> > > --
> > > Regards
> > > Spencer
> > >
> >
> > Well, I guess I really didn't know that there were so many problems with
> > this card. I tried to read up on the posts about this card, but I guess
I
> > missed a few important points about it.
> >
> > If NVIDIA knows that there are problems with this card, wouldn't they
> > release updated drivers to fix the problems and to provide support for
> > certain motherboards?
> >
> > The power supply from pcpowerandcooling.com is $150 U.S. I wanted to get
a
> > new psu for the computer, but I don't know that I can go to a store and
> buy
> > one and hope that it works.
> >
> > When moving the antialiasing and anisotropic to anything other than 2x,
> the
> > games will stop working and image quality will degrade very quickly. To
me
> > this seems to indicate a problem.
> >
> > I would like to hope that I didn't waste $250 on a video card that
simply
> > does not work.
> >
> >
>
>
January 17, 2005 2:18:00 PM

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Charlie Brookhart wrote:

I'll play a part of a helpful nVidia tech guru:

> I am currently running the 6600GT card on a 250W PSU. It seems to be running
> OK, but I have noticed a few issues. I would like to try to get some help in
> identifying the what the solution to the problem is.
>
> 1. When playing back videos, especially streaming videos, to me, the image
> quality does not seem to be very sharp

Neither are you.

> 2. I have experimented with the video card settings and have encountered
> problems while playing games. Specifically, I have used the card for FS 2004
> and Rainbox Six 3: Raven Shield. During gameplay in both games, the game
> would simply stop as if it was frozen. When trying to get to the task
> manager, windows didn't want to display it. After about a minute or so, the
> game started to work again as though nothing had happened. This same "game
> freeze" would then occur again a few seconds later.

Freeze! It's Miami Vice!


> 3. Also during gameplay, I was getting small black/white squares on the
> screen. I have connected the card to my power supply.

What about AGP, turd?

> 4. Flight Simulator (FS) 2004 has anti-aliasing capability. I have turned
> that off and turned that option on using the NVIDIA display properties.
> These game freezes seem to be happening when the AA is adjusted.

Have you been at the AA mettings lately, drunk boy?

> I have a Dell computer, and as I understand it, I would have to get a power
> supply from Dell. The only other one that they have is a 305W. PC power and
> cooling has Dell power supplies. According to their system configurator, the
> one that would accomodate my system is a 425W selling for about $150.

There goes your wife's alamony.

> I want to get into gaming and have a good display with good frame rates,
> which is why I got this card. I am not familiar with what all the settings
> are for this particular card. Can anyone help me out?
>
> System Info:
> Dell Dimmension 8300
> XP Home SP1
> 250W PSU
> P4 2.6GHz
> 512 MB Ram
> PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT AGP 128MB w/ driver version 66.93 installed
> Direct X 9.0c

Get a Nintendo, asswipe.
January 17, 2005 2:24:43 PM

Archived from groups: alt.comp.periphs.videocards.nvidia (More info?)

Rich Webb wrote:

> On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:54:59 -0000, "Spencer" wrote:

>>I bought the BFG version - bought a new
>>power supply to accomodate it. Applied latest bios, latest SIS drivers,
>>latest Nvidia driver. It seems that with the limited access to my bios that
>>I have on the Medion MD50000 motherboard (MS-6071) I shall also have to buy
>>a new motherboard. My advice is don't buy the 6600GT from any manufacturer
>>until Nvidia can get one working straight out of the box. I cannot find
>>anywhere where any 6600Gt AGP board manufacturer (including Nvidia) says
>>that xxxx motherboard is not supported.
>
>
> I don't think that it's your (or my) motherboard as such since, as you
> say, the problem seems to be so widespread. The common factor seems to
> be the 6600GT/AGP itself.

If this is true, then Nvidia should be mocked to oblivion. There's
plenty of people with AGP mobos and if this is a common trend with these
cards, I will once again remove my nVidia parrot sticker off my forehead
and place it over an unopened box of Half Life. Just when I thought
Nvidia started redeeming itself.
January 17, 2005 4:28:58 PM

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2005-01-15, Spencer wrote:
> You will need a power supply of at least a 350watt rating for a 6600GT. But
> ........
> It seems that no matter what make 6600GT AGP you have you will have major
> lock-up problems. Look at earlier posts - Leadtek, MSI, XFX, Gainward
> etc., - they all have same problem. I bought the BFG version - bought a new

Just to be different - I have an Asus 6600GT (AGP) which worked out of the
box without problems. On a 340W powersupply. The only "problem" is that
the rest of the hardware is ancient, so the 6600 is not working very hard.
Running on an Asus a7v266 mobo with an Athlon XP1800+. I am in the
progress of upgrading, old video card broke down, replaced that first,
will buy new mobo/processor next month)...

[snip]

-peter
!