POPE leaves the forum

since i am such a burden here

i am leaving



never seen such a pack of girley men on a forum in my life

when the forum is dead boring with me gone.... rememeber u wanted it...

no more POPE to pick on

like me or not... i had this forum jumping...hits going thru the roof...

i did tone down and no instult anyone anymore or use foul language... but that wasnt enuff.... now you want me totally gone

ok

evita!!!

EVITAA!!!

thats ok

she be back

another qualood

she love me in the morning

toodles pope...

I certainly wont miss ya...now if only rramjet could leave...hmmm


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I honestly won't miss you, you didn't contribute much.

Sept. 23rd is coming soon, there will be pages of discussion each day. The CPU Forum dies in summertime, you did a pretty wild job of being a filler, but now your time and job is done. Off you go, or change.

I expect AMD_Meltdown to turn back here and show us a real troll laughter, unlike the unprofessional you and Ramjet.

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Don't leave, just tell Eden to screw himself, it's quite fun
Come on, u know u wanna stay, pissing off intelliots is fun. Now I gotta do it myself, and I'm busy with the vid cards.

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I refuse to let him leave. We need someone to piss u guys off!

The one and only "Monstrous BULLgarian!"

Your ego is big enough to put off anyone.

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Nooo, don't leave us man. We're gonna miss the laughs you gave us. I was really hoping on a "Dungeon Forum" too.

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This wouldn't be happening if rramjet didn't bump up 50 of Pope's threads last night.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

Don't blame me for all the hypocrites who post on popes forums and encourage him then turn around and stab him in the back.

If he doesn't die, he'll get help!!!

Naw phial is skinny as hell...


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please don't leave

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You want poopey to stay?

my ass is bigger than your mom!

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oh hell, he isnt leaving, prolly jus change his tag and reinvent himself as an intel zealot...

my sig left me for an Honorary Guru...

See i don't want to offend anyone right now but id like to make a point. Ok pope writes a lot of troll posts and posts them. Now a lot of people reply to his post with similar garbage, hence this post and all the ones before me. So i ask the question, are the people who reply to popes troll posts as bad as pope who posted them? I thinks so because if no one replied ,pope would either, write funnier posts, write serious posts or not write posts at all. Now if we all look at this problem logically we will see that there are a few solutions and ways to deal with this. Ok now if popes troll posts offend you, don't look at them and don't reply and thus we will not have to hear you complain. If you want to troll with pope go hard until you get bored. If you think his post are amusing then reply to his funny posts. And finally if you take pope seriously go and get your brain scanned on a regular basis. Now sooner or later pope will calm down and write seriosly and throw in a hilarious one now and again. But all said and done the point i'm making is that you all have an effect on popes attitude and posts and at the end of the day pope has a right to say what he pleases and post what he please within reasons of profanity etc. Its called freedom of speach...

If he doesn't die, he'll get help!!!<P ID="edit"><FONT SIZE=-1><EM>Edited by rramjet on 09/08/03 05:15 AM.</EM></FONT></P>

I agree!

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Ramjet, you have a point on the "Ignore and ye shall receive" philosophy, however, this becomes an issue if you have him spamming the board with TOO MANY threads. It's great to have a humor post in the CPU section, I do not deny you that. But when he posts a lot of threads, putting all those which ask for help or ask to discuss something, it becomes more of a pain.

I wish I could agree with you, but Slvr Phoenix made a big point on this on why it's not true HERE.
Here's quoting Slvr in an answer he did a month ago in the POLLS forum:

This is true. Fredi has all the rights to ban anyone for ANYTHING they say. The forum is open to all countries and therefore no country's laws are inherent to the system this forum works under. Fredi is a VERY reasonable man, he allows the OTHER forum to be laden with sex posts and even the POLLS forum. He rarely will interrupt, and only when there is something serious, will he either do it himself by scanning the forums or someone will tell him about the issue.
But if everyone here desires someone to be banned, usually banning is because his freedom of speech EXCEEDED public norm acceptance, and therefore he is BANNED. Have you ever seen someone banned for any other reason than he wasn't behaving right or exerced a bit too much freedom? (aside from stupid mods who simply hate someone for no reason)

And so, while you raise a good point, your last one doesn't work here.

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Point taken and duly ignorant. Even in your own post you put the limitation of "within reasons of profanity etc" on the concept of "freedom of speach". The simple fact is that the freedom of speech doesn't even exist.

Even in America which supposedly has such a constitutionally granted freedom, that freedom is then regulated in so many ways that its existence is only an illusion meant to placate the ignorant masses.

And in the case of an owned location or service (depending on what you consider THGC) it is perfectly within THGCs rights to stipulate rules on what is and isn't acceptable behavior to continue using the service / residing on the location.

So there is absolutely no reason why popegoldx, or any of us for that matter, have this supposed freedom of speech. We don't. It's that simple.

That aside, the choice on what is and isn't acceptable behavior at THGC is under the jurisdiction of the owners, not of us as users. If Fredi wants to punt and ban popegoldx that's one thing, but otherwise the only reason for popegoldx to leave is because he wants to, not because anyone is making him.

You yourself said that we have the right to <i>choose</i>. We can read popegoldx's threads or ignore them. We can post to them, or boycott them. It's all a matter of choice. Just as popegoldx can <i>choose</i> to leave in a huff, of he can <i>choose</i> to ignore the people who dislike him and stay.

And as to your discussion of morality ("<font color=blue>So i ask the question, are the people who reply to popes troll posts as bad as pope who posted them?</font color=blue>" ) I have to say, no, they are not and that your logic is extremely flawed. If someone commits an act of arson and I yell "Fire!" does that make me as guilty as the arsonist just because I brought attention to the situation for others to be aware of? Come on. Get serious.

At least the notion of trolling popegoldx when he writes a trollish thread being an action equal in nature to the original trolling is a somewhat defendable position that <i>might</i> be debatable. (Though even then I personally believe that such is just a return of investment.) Your position however is just flat out without merit. You can hold your opinion all you want, but at least understand how undefendable that belief is.

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I think all chumps should stick there thumbs up there buts now.......yes you and you and you....so I dont think you should leave, after all just look at them now.

yes but we also have the freedom to call him a total dumbass...no one has opressed him...just used our freedoms...


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But they won't have to be banned at all if there is a dungeon. The dungeon will be the palace of the trolls. I don't think trolls would mind it too much if their junk got moved into another forum. Rest assured trolls, your threads will be viewed, replied to, & entertained if the Duneon idea makes an appearance. I have to admit that I couldn't resist giving such a forum a daily visit. No it won't be my primary visit because I am mostly interested in REAL facts about hardware. But it will be a nice place to go if I've had a bad day at school and want to be merry and full of cheeful joyious laughter.

My OS features preemptive multitasking, a fully interactive command line, & support for 640K of RAM!

ROFLMBO

It comes down to the intent that the owners of the site had in mind, and I guess the owners just didn't have people dicking off for pleasure in mind. Pope your not a bad guy, once you stopped the insults, My advice to you is to find a site that has your style of posting in mind.

RAMJET this is not a free speech issue, this is an issue of what TOMS forums are about and they are not about catering to peoples egos, its about the exchange of information. There are plenty of places to go on the internet where they encourage people to act any way that they choose. Go there and have all the free speech you want.

I'm all for an open Forum here like a (Dungeon) Most other forums have em and its a good idea.

Personally I feel anyone should be able to post whatever they want, but then I want home addresses so I can kick the crap out of people who make this pesonal and treat others with disrespect. Until people choose to act online the same way they would to someones face you will always have these issues.

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I don't like the idea of a Dungeon.
Thats silly, its kind of like creating a nuthouse then throwing everyone thats not crazy, or the usual scenario (THE ONE GOING ON HERE AT THG) is that someone or a group who <b>thinks</b> they are important picks and chooses who is the "troll".

Thats the creation of some kind of heirarchy on the internet, and the internet is supposed to bring everyone to the same level.

Now, seperating forums by interests is one thing. But seperation by by "attitudes" is wrong at a computer website. It shows a lack of something in the community in question.

The mighty POPE might have bugged you, but in ways he was superior to many of you.. he for one is much more humorous than almost all of you, and defeats the intelliots when it comes to wit near all the time.

Acting with a bit of maturity and restraint, such as letting POPES threads simply die, or ignore them if you don't like them is the most odvious solution. It also happens to be the one used in real life situations that parallel such things.


Instead of training your trolls to use the 'dungeon', train yourselves in the art of restraint.

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