Help my friend install his new card......

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Hello. My friend is an idiot and requires some help. He's updating his 440
MMX (something like that) to an FX 5700 Ultra. He has fitted the new card,
yet apparently the machine still sees the new card as the 440MMX.

He's ridiculous when it comes to PCs, he's absolutely awful. So, I can
genuinely never know what he has actually done. So, pretending that he was
sensible and didn't do something idiotic... I have so far suggested these
steps for him to follow:

1. Uninstall Current NVIDIA drivers (what he used for the MMX) - restart
machine
2. Launch window within safe mode and use driver cleaner professional. Clean
out NVIDIA driver remains. Restart
3. Machine now is clean of NVIDIA related drivers, and has the new card
fitted. Now all is left is to install the correct drivers for the FX 5700
Ultra. I'm not an NVIDIA user, but I believe he uses Omega's drivers and
that they support a large range of the cards. I'm just taking his word for
this.

Does this sound moderately comprehensive? After apparently uninstalling the
drivers, I've asked him repeatedly to check to see whether windows detects
his card as 'unknown' within the adapter tab under the advanced display
properties bit... meaning that he correctly uninstalled the drivers. He has
no idea what I'm talking about.

Apparently after following these steps, it's still detected as the old card.
So, I'm out. I'm not an NVIDIA user, so may not be aware of any special
procedures with their cards. If these instructions sound ok, then he
probably followed them wrong, which wouldn't surprise me.

Any advice or help is appreciated.

TIA

 

[DaveL]

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The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to his
house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to take. You
know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are. Unless you do it,
it won't get done.

DaveL


"The Berzerker" <Berzerker@wooooooo.com> wrote in message
news:idKdnTYrc7cUpv3fRVnysA@pipex.net...
> Hello. My friend is an idiot and requires some help. He's updating his 440
> MMX (something like that) to an FX 5700 Ultra. He has fitted the new card,
> yet apparently the machine still sees the new card as the 440MMX.
>
> He's ridiculous when it comes to PCs, he's absolutely awful. So, I can
> genuinely never know what he has actually done. So, pretending that he was
> sensible and didn't do something idiotic... I have so far suggested these
> steps for him to follow:
>
> 1. Uninstall Current NVIDIA drivers (what he used for the MMX) - restart
> machine
> 2. Launch window within safe mode and use driver cleaner professional.
> Clean out NVIDIA driver remains. Restart
> 3. Machine now is clean of NVIDIA related drivers, and has the new card
> fitted. Now all is left is to install the correct drivers for the FX 5700
> Ultra. I'm not an NVIDIA user, but I believe he uses Omega's drivers and
> that they support a large range of the cards. I'm just taking his word for
> this.
>
> Does this sound moderately comprehensive? After apparently uninstalling
> the drivers, I've asked him repeatedly to check to see whether windows
> detects his card as 'unknown' within the adapter tab under the advanced
> display properties bit... meaning that he correctly uninstalled the
> drivers. He has no idea what I'm talking about.
>
> Apparently after following these steps, it's still detected as the old
> card. So, I'm out. I'm not an NVIDIA user, so may not be aware of any
> special procedures with their cards. If these instructions sound ok, then
> he probably followed them wrong, which wouldn't surprise me.
>
> Any advice or help is appreciated.
>
> TIA
>

 

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Back when I was in high school I had a friend who got his girlfriend
pregnant and I had a hell of a time getting any advice
.............lmao.
Good luck with your problem.


"The Berzerker" <Berzerker@wooooooo.com> wrote in message
news:idKdnTYrc7cUpv3fRVnysA@pipex.net...
> Hello. My friend is an idiot and requires some help. He's updating his 440
> MMX (something like that) to an FX 5700 Ultra. He has fitted the new card,
> yet apparently the machine still sees the new card as the 440MMX.
>
> He's ridiculous when it comes to PCs, he's absolutely awful. So, I can
> genuinely never know what he has actually done. So, pretending that he was
> sensible and didn't do something idiotic... I have so far suggested these
> steps for him to follow:
>
> 1. Uninstall Current NVIDIA drivers (what he used for the MMX) - restart
> machine
> 2. Launch window within safe mode and use driver cleaner professional.
> Clean out NVIDIA driver remains. Restart
> 3. Machine now is clean of NVIDIA related drivers, and has the new card
> fitted. Now all is left is to install the correct drivers for the FX 5700
> Ultra. I'm not an NVIDIA user, but I believe he uses Omega's drivers and
> that they support a large range of the cards. I'm just taking his word for
> this.
>
> Does this sound moderately comprehensive? After apparently uninstalling
> the drivers, I've asked him repeatedly to check to see whether windows
> detects his card as 'unknown' within the adapter tab under the advanced
> display properties bit... meaning that he correctly uninstalled the
> drivers. He has no idea what I'm talking about.
>
> Apparently after following these steps, it's still detected as the old
> card. So, I'm out. I'm not an NVIDIA user, so may not be aware of any
> special procedures with their cards. If these instructions sound ok, then
> he probably followed them wrong, which wouldn't surprise me.
>
> Any advice or help is appreciated.
>
> TIA
>

 

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"DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to
> his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to
> take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are.
> Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>
> DaveL

"Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a hobby, I
think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far more "Lay"
people quite able to handle setting up their own computers than you
allow for.
Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons who are
computer adepts than so-called "professionals".

McG.

snip

 

[rms]

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> 1. Uninstall Current NVIDIA drivers (what he used for the MMX) - restart
> machine

2. *Before restarting* the machine, set the driver to MS VGA.

> 2. Launch window within safe mode and use driver cleaner professional.
> Clean out NVIDIA driver remains. Restart

This one shouldn't be needed.


> 3. Machine now is clean of NVIDIA related drivers, and has the new card
> fitted. Now all is left is to install the correct drivers for the FX 5700
> Ultra. I'm not an NVIDIA user, but I believe he uses Omega's drivers and
> that they support a large range of the cards. I'm just taking his word for
> this.

Use official release drivers first.

rms

 

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On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:46:26 GMT, "McGrandpa"
<McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:

>"DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
>> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to
>> his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to
>> take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are.
>> Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>>
>> DaveL
>
>"Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
>years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a hobby, I
>think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far more "Lay"
>people quite able to handle setting up their own computers than you
>allow for.
>Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons who are
>computer adepts than so-called "professionals".
>
>McG.
>
>snip
>

sorry dude, gotta disagree with you're logic on that first statement -
if you're a 'geek' that makes you [at least,semi-]knowledgeable,
beyond the average lay-person; by your own admission, you have over 20
years experience.
in my own life - the company i worked for, previous to now, there were
approx 200 employees - i met 1 other person, within this company, who
could build a pc from components; ie, had done so. - including myself,
that's 1%.
i realise that other industries will show different results but i'd be
VERY interested to see any results showing more than 10%, most
especially from non-it related industries.

dr ratt
gary: so, is there no chance we can be together?
lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
gary: you know i can't promise that!
lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
gary: i promise. i will never die.

 

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"dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
news:avn061tev858gktubku2kbg2n8rrh8efho@4ax.com
> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:46:26 GMT, "McGrandpa"
> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>> newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
>>> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to
>>> his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to
>>> take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are.
>>> Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>>>
>>> DaveL
>>
>> "Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
>> years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a hobby,
>> I think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far more
>> "Lay" people quite able to handle setting up their own computers
>> than you allow for.
>> Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons who
>> are computer adepts than so-called "professionals".
>>
>> McG.
>>
>> snip
>>
>
> sorry dude, gotta disagree with you're logic on that first statement -
> if you're a 'geek' that makes you [at least,semi-]knowledgeable,
> beyond the average lay-person; by your own admission, you have over 20
> years experience.
> in my own life - the company i worked for, previous to now, there were
> approx 200 employees - i met 1 other person, within this company, who
> could build a pc from components; ie, had done so. - including myself,
> that's 1%.
> i realise that other industries will show different results but i'd be
> VERY interested to see any results showing more than 10%, most
> especially from non-it related industries.
>
> dr ratt
> gary: so, is there no chance we can be together?
> lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
> gary: you know i can't promise that!
> lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
> gary: i promise. i will never die.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=layperson

Ah. It was his use of the term that I rose to. I'm crafted, a
journeyman. Skilled labor. Not a professional. By the dictionary,
I'm a layperson.

However, in the spirit of your argument; I agree that very very few
people that own/use pc's can actually build one from components. I know
a few personally that can. And I taught two of them. That there are
more 'white collar' types that seem to need help like this might simply
state there are more white collars using/owning pc's than blue
McG.

 

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> 2. *Before restarting* the machine, set the driver to MS VGA.
Not neccessary, assuming o/s Win2k or winxp, simply uninstall drivers, on
restart sys will launch new hardware wizard, cancelling this will then start
in vga mode.

Assuming hes actually removed old card, fitted new card. In Cntrl
Panel/System/Hardware locate graphics adapter. Remove the device. Reboot the
sys, when the new hardware wizard starts, elect to install drivers from cd
and pop the cd supplied with the card in.
Since you said hes hopless this might be the better option, rather than let
him play with files. The exact procedure may vary according to o/s which you
omitted to mention.

 

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"McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
news:g%28e.3308$h6.534@tornado.texas.rr.com...
> "dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:avn061tev858gktubku2kbg2n8rrh8efho@4ax.com
>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:46:26 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>> newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
>>>> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to
>>>> his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to
>>>> take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are.
>>>> Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>>>>
>>>> DaveL
>>>
>>> "Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
>>> years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a hobby,
>>> I think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far more
>>> "Lay" people quite able to handle setting up their own computers
>>> than you allow for.
>>> Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons who
>>> are computer adepts than so-called "professionals".
>>>
>>> McG.
>>>
>>> snip
>>>
>>
>> sorry dude, gotta disagree with you're logic on that first statement -
>> if you're a 'geek' that makes you [at least,semi-]knowledgeable,
>> beyond the average lay-person; by your own admission, you have over 20
>> years experience.
>> in my own life - the company i worked for, previous to now, there were
>> approx 200 employees - i met 1 other person, within this company, who
>> could build a pc from components; ie, had done so. - including myself,
>> that's 1%.
>> i realise that other industries will show different results but i'd be
>> VERY interested to see any results showing more than 10%, most
>> especially from non-it related industries.
>>
>> dr ratt
>> gary: so, is there no chance we can be together?
>> lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
>> gary: you know i can't promise that!
>> lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
>> gary: i promise. i will never die.
>
> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=layperson
>
> Ah. It was his use of the term that I rose to. I'm crafted, a
> journeyman. Skilled labor. Not a professional. By the dictionary, I'm
> a layperson.
>
> However, in the spirit of your argument; I agree that very very few
> people that own/use pc's can actually build one from components. I know a
> few personally that can. And I taught two of them. That there are more
> 'white collar' types that seem to need help like this might simply state
> there are more white collars using/owning pc's than blue
> McG.
>

Sorry Gramps. No offense intended. By lay person I simply meant an
unlearned individual. Actually, I had a rough day (I work in the computer
field). I was fed up with those types. But I guess I shouldn't be. They
do put food on my table.

DaveL

 

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On 4/16/2005 11:57 AM DaveL brightened our day with:

>
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g%28e.3308$h6.534@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>
>> "dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:avn061tev858gktubku2kbg2n8rrh8efho@4ax.com
>>
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:46:26 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
>>>>
>>>>> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over to
>>>>> his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's going to
>>>>> take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay people are.
>>>>> Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>>>>>
>>>>> DaveL
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
>>>> years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a hobby,
>>>> I think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far more
>>>> "Lay" people quite able to handle setting up their own computers
>>>> than you allow for.
>>>> Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons who
>>>> are computer adepts than so-called "professionals".
>>>>
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>
>>> sorry dude, gotta disagree with you're logic on that first statement -
>>> if you're a 'geek' that makes you [at least,semi-]knowledgeable,
>>> beyond the average lay-person; by your own admission, you have over 20
>>> years experience.
>>> in my own life - the company i worked for, previous to now, there were
>>> approx 200 employees - i met 1 other person, within this company, who
>>> could build a pc from components; ie, had done so. - including myself,
>>> that's 1%.
>>> i realise that other industries will show different results but i'd be
>>> VERY interested to see any results showing more than 10%, most
>>> especially from non-it related industries.
>>>
>>> dr ratt
>>> gary: so, is there no chance we can be together?
>>> lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
>>> gary: you know i can't promise that!
>>> lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
>>> gary: i promise. i will never die.
>>
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=layperson
>>
>> Ah. It was his use of the term that I rose to. I'm crafted, a
>> journeyman. Skilled labor. Not a professional. By the dictionary,
>> I'm a layperson.
>>
>> However, in the spirit of your argument; I agree that very very few
>> people that own/use pc's can actually build one from components. I
>> know a few personally that can. And I taught two of them. That
>> there are more 'white collar' types that seem to need help like this
>> might simply state there are more white collars using/owning pc's
>> than blue
>> McG.
>>
>
> Sorry Gramps. No offense intended. By lay person I simply meant an
> unlearned individual. Actually, I had a rough day (I work in the
> computer field). I was fed up with those types. But I guess I
> shouldn't be. They do put food on my table.
>
> DaveL

In Roman Catholicism one of the main distinctions between the Laity and
the Clergy is being able to perform sacraments. Only the clergy can
preside over the actual transubstantiation that occors during
consecration at mass. The lay members of the congregation are allowed a
chance to participate a lot, but when it comes to actually doing the
hocus pocus, they have to stand clear.

I think it may have happened before but I'm pretty sure I became a fully
ordained geek (but by no means an actual "engineer") by taking three
semesters of computer classes at UC Berkeley. Therefore I'm called upon
to perform all matter of mumbo jumbo for the lay people out there.

--
People of the United States! We are Unitarian Jihad! We can strike without warning. Pockets of reasonableness and harmony will appear as if from nowhere! Nice people will run the government again! There will be coffee and cookies in the Gandhi Room after the revolution.

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

 

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On 4/16/2005 1:09 AM MrGrumpy brightened our day with:

>> 2. *Before restarting* the machine, set the driver to MS VGA.
>>
>>
>Not neccessary, assuming o/s Win2k or winxp, simply uninstall drivers, on
>restart sys will launch new hardware wizard, cancelling this will then start
>in vga mode.
>
>Assuming hes actually removed old card, fitted new card. In Cntrl
>Panel/System/Hardware locate graphics adapter. Remove the device. Reboot the
>sys, when the new hardware wizard starts, elect to install drivers from cd
>and pop the cd supplied with the card in.
>Since you said hes hopless this might be the better option, rather than let
>him play with files. The exact procedure may vary according to o/s which you
>omitted to mention.
>
>
>
>
ya know could be an onboard 440mx, nforce2 IGP. Which would make this a
whole different kind of problem.

--
People of the United States! We are Unitarian Jihad! We can strike without warning. Pockets of reasonableness and harmony will appear as if from nowhere! Nice people will run the government again! There will be coffee and cookies in the Gandhi Room after the revolution.

Steve ¤»Inglo«¤
www.inglostadt.com

 

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"DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:f4GdnYwKqPpkwvzfRVn-iA@comcast.com
> "McGrandpa" <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:g%28e.3308$h6.534@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>> "dr ratt" <spamsum1else@zen.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:avn061tev858gktubku2kbg2n8rrh8efho@4ax.com
>>> On Fri, 15 Apr 2005 23:46:26 GMT, "McGrandpa"
>>> <McGrandpaNOT@NOThotmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "DaveL" <dave1027@comcast.net> wrote in message
>>>> newsvadnYz4Ja402P3fRVn-vA@comcast.com
>>>>> The only thing left is for you to get in your car and drive over
>>>>> to his house and fix the damn thing because that is what it's
>>>>> going to take. You know it and so does he. This is the way lay
>>>>> people are. Unless you do it, it won't get done.
>>>>>
>>>>> DaveL
>>>>
>>>> "Lay" people? I think I qualify as a "Lay" person. After over 20
>>>> years of playing with digital electronics and computers for a
>>>> hobby, I think I also qualify as a 'Geek'. Perhaps there are far
>>>> more "Lay" people quite able to handle setting up their own
>>>> computers than you allow for.
>>>> Actually, it seems there are far more "Non-professional" persons
>>>> who are computer adepts than so-called "professionals".
>>>>
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>> snip
>>>>
>>>
>>> sorry dude, gotta disagree with you're logic on that first
>>> statement - if you're a 'geek' that makes you [at
>>> least,semi-]knowledgeable, beyond the average lay-person; by your
>>> own admission, you have over 20 years experience.
>>> in my own life - the company i worked for, previous to now, there
>>> were approx 200 employees - i met 1 other person, within this
>>> company, who could build a pc from components; ie, had done so. -
>>> including myself, that's 1%.
>>> i realise that other industries will show different results but i'd
>>> be VERY interested to see any results showing more than 10%, most
>>> especially from non-it related industries.
>>>
>>> dr ratt
>>> gary: so, is there no chance we can be together?
>>> lisa: only if you promise me you'll never die.
>>> gary: you know i can't promise that!
>>> lisa: if you could do that, i'd make love to you, right now.
>>> gary: i promise. i will never die.
>>
>> http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=layperson
>>
>> Ah. It was his use of the term that I rose to. I'm crafted, a
>> journeyman. Skilled labor. Not a professional. By the
>> dictionary, I'm a layperson.
>>
>> However, in the spirit of your argument; I agree that very very few
>> people that own/use pc's can actually build one from components. I
>> know a few personally that can. And I taught two of them. That
>> there are more 'white collar' types that seem to need help like this
>> might simply state there are more white collars using/owning pc's
>> than blue McG.
>>
>
> Sorry Gramps. No offense intended. By lay person I simply meant an
> unlearned individual. Actually, I had a rough day (I work in the
> computer field). I was fed up with those types. But I guess I
> shouldn't be. They do put food on my table.
>
> DaveL

Thanks. We all have to put food on the table. The collar we wear
doesn't really mean anything at all to me. Also, I do know how you feel
about those who are basically "machine disadvantaged" (for lack of more
suitable term) trying to do more than they know how to. However,
that is the one that puts the icing on your cake for dessert.
Sometimes we can have too much cake
I have 4 kids and 6 grandkids. At times, that is WAY too much cake
McG.

 

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"Inglo"
snip
>
> I think it may have happened before but I'm pretty sure I became a
> fully ordained geek (but by no means an actual "engineer") by taking
> three semesters of computer classes at UC Berkeley. Therefore I'm
> called upon to perform all matter of mumbo jumbo for the lay people
> out there.

I figure that I lay claim to being a "brush arbor geek" then. No
official ordinations, just the resolve to know and do it
McG.