AGP Aperture: Don't set it above 64meg

[rms]

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I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.

This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems, but
check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.

rms

 

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:29:08 GMT, "rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net>
wrote:

>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
>playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
>6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
>This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems, but
>check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>
>rms
>

I recall it could be a problem on win98 systems with a lot of memory
eg 512M or more. Large agp apertures eat up some win98 memory
addressing capability or some such voodoo.

 

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"rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net> wrote in message
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> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
> playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
> 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
> This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems,
but
> check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>
> rms
>


Having my AGP Aperture set to 128MB has never ever caused any difficulties
for me, but thanks for posting anyway since it is a troubleshooting tip that
I might never have thought of. It may be something to keep in mind in the
future.

 

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On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:29:08 GMT, "rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net>
wrote:

>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
>playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
>6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
>This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems, but
>check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.

My mobo is a A7N8X-Deluxe and games run much smoother for me at 128
than 64. It is down to individual setups, you can't make blanket
statements about what works better.
--
Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

 

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> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
> playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
> 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
> This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems,
but
> check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>

Interesting. I heard that works for ATI cards. Doing this I got a rock solid
system with an ATI X800 Pro. Before that I had seldom random crashes and
freezes in some games - without any logic. All this stuff with AGP aperture
size, AGP speed and Fast Writes never did any good to me. I now play with
AGP size 64MB, AGP speed 4x (instead of 8x) and Fast Writes off and get the
best speed and stability out off it.

Cheers,
Chris

 

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"rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net> wrote in message
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> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
> playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
> 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
> This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems,
> but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>
> rms
Its not a good idea to generalise. The bottom of this page covers AGP
Aperture settings in depth
http://www.adriansrojakpot.com/Speed_Demonz/BIOS_Guide/BIOS_Guide_02c.htm I
have mine set to 128 MB (Radeon 8500DV) and its perfectly reliable. Remember
that the AGP Aperture part of system memory is only delved into when the
graphics cards own onboard memory gets full.

Paul

 

[rms]

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> My mobo is a A7N8X-Deluxe and games run much smoother for me at 128
> than 64.

128/256 are also smoother for me; or more specifically I'm noticing
slight hitches on entering a new area that didn't happen before, but as I
say the game doesn't crash anymore.

I have 512mb and a couple of pci cards, so there may be memory bus or
pci bus contention issues that are not obvious.

rms

 

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Ditto here. Same setup and after some experimentation I found that 128 was
the sweetspot.

JK

"Andrew" <spamtrap@localhost.> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:29:08 GMT, "rms" <rsquires@flashREMOVE.net>
> wrote:
>
>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
>>playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
>>6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>>
>>This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems,
>>but
>>check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>
> My mobo is a A7N8X-Deluxe and games run much smoother for me at 128
> than 64. It is down to individual setups, you can't make blanket
> statements about what works better.
> --
> Andrew, contact via interpleb.blogspot.com
> Help make Usenet a better place: English is read downwards,
> please don't top post. Trim replies to quote only relevant text.
> Check groups.google.com before asking an obvious question.

 

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You have 256 MB of video memory, so it doesn't matter as much. My 128 MB
9800Pro gets far better performance with the aperture set to 256 MB when
running the Ruby demo. Mind you it is not a game, but there are applications
that tangibly benefit from a large aperture.

No problems so far, on either my previous SiS735 or the current KT880 board.

--
"War is the continuation of politics by other means.
It can therefore be said that politics is war without
bloodshed while war is politics with bloodshed."


"Christian Atteneder" <christian.atteneder@aon.at> wrote in message
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> Interesting. I heard that works for ATI cards. Doing this I got a rock
> solid
> system with an ATI X800 Pro. Before that I had seldom random crashes and
> freezes in some games - without any logic. All this stuff with AGP
> aperture
> size, AGP speed and Fast Writes never did any good to me. I now play with
> AGP size 64MB, AGP speed 4x (instead of 8x) and Fast Writes off and get
> the
> best speed and stability out off it.
>
> Cheers,
> Chris
>
>

 

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rms wrote:
> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots while
> playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP Aperture on this
> 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have disappeared.
>
> This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold for all systems, but
> check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>
> rms
>
>
This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.

Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.

 

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"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
> rms wrote:
>> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>> while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>> Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>> disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold
>> for all
>> systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>>
>> rms
>>
>>
> This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>
> Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.

It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.

Posting was relevant. Get over it.
McG.

 

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McGrandpa wrote:
> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>
>>rms wrote:
>>
>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold
>>>for all
>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>>>
>>>rms
>>>
>>>
>>
>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>
>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>
>
> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>
> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
> McG.
>
>
Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?

I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long before
I get flamed...
And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.

Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
newsgroups? Re-read my post.

--Looker007

 

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:51:34 GMT, Looker007 <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org>
wrote:

>McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>>rms wrote:
>>>
>>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold
>>>>for all
>>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>>>>
>>>>rms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>
>>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>
>>
>> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>
>> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>> McG.
>>
>>
>Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>
>I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long before
>I get flamed...
>And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>

AGP aperture discussions are relevant to both newsgroups. The aperture
is set on the motherboard, not the video card.

Please take a very cold shower.

John Lewis

>Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>
>--Looker007

 

[Sharp]

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> >>
> >>>rms wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
> >>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
> >>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
> >>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold
> >>>>for all
> >>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
> >>>>
> >>>>rms
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
> >>>
> >>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
> >>
> >>
> >> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
> >>
> >> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
> >> McG.
> >>
> >>
> >Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
> >
> >I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long before
> >I get flamed...
> >And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
> >
>
> AGP aperture discussions are relevant to both newsgroups. The aperture
> is set on the motherboard, not the video card.
>
> Please take a very cold shower.
>
> John Lewis

I second that.

Sharp

 

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"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
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> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>> rms wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>> while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>> Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>> disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>> hold for all
>>>> systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>> crashes. rms
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>
>>> Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>
>>
>> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>
>> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>> McG.
>>
>>
> Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>
> I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
> before I get flamed...
> And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>
> Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
> card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
> newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>
> --Looker007

If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's, what's
the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.

People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of the
die hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards from both
manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a flaming for that
I read both ng's daily myself as I have both brands of card running in
my systems right now.
McG. <netiquette used>

 

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John Lewis wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 03:51:34 GMT, Looker007 <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org>
> wrote:
>
>
>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>>>"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>>rms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't hold
>>>>>for all
>>>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any crashes.
>>>>>
>>>>>rms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>
>>>Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>
>>I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long before
>>I get flamed...
>>And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>
>
>
> AGP aperture discussions are relevant to both newsgroups. The aperture
> is set on the motherboard, not the video card.
Yes, but his was an NVIDIA question for an NVIDIA card it has no
relevance in this group, check the post header.
This is a SPECIFIC Newsgroup for a SPECIFIC brand/kind of video card.

The question would have been better served on A.C.P.MAINBOARD, don't you
agree?


> Please take a very cold shower.
Sorry you're OT. Wrong answer for this ng, has no relevance to ATi
video cards.
>
> John Lewis
Not your real name of course.
>
>
>>Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>
>>--Looker007
>
>

 

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McGrandpa wrote:
> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>
>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>>>"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>
>>>
>>>>rms wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>>>hold for all
>>>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>crashes. rms
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>
>>>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>
>>>
>>>It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>
>>>Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>McG.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>
>>I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
>>before I get flamed...
>>And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>
>>Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>
>>--Looker007
>
>
> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's, what's
> the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA product.
He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card";
He asked: "What is the ideal
aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think
it's an ATi card,
yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't
you agree?
>
> People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of the
> die hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards from both
> manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a flaming for that
> I read both ng's daily myself as I have both brands of card running in
> my systems right now.
The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
> McG. <netiquette used>
I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the author
of the
post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any
"off the cuff" reply.
My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.


>
>

 

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On Wed, 20 Apr 2005 11:59:20 +0000, Looker007 wrote:
>
> Yes, but his was an NVIDIA question for an NVIDIA card it has no
> relevance in this group, check the post header. This is a SPECIFIC
> Newsgroup for a SPECIFIC brand/kind of video card.
>
> The question would have been better served on A.C.P.MAINBOARD, don't you
> agree?

In looking at the posts about the AGP aperature, it appears that the
settings have relevance in both the ATI and Nvidia groups, as it applies
to both cards (if not other cards too). Had it only been posted to ACPM I
might have missed it as I don't subscribe to that group, but I do
subscribe to groups that related to the vendors products I use.

It seems to me, having been using Usenet since the early 80's, that the
post and discussion, before it digressed into a posting discussion, was
completely on-topic.

Might also help if you understood that some ISP's don't carry all groups,
like the RR server in Ohio doesn't carry the Nvidia group at all.

--
spam999free@rrohio.com
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Looker007 wrote:
> McGrandpa wrote:
>
>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> rms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>> while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>> Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>> disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>>>> hold for all
>>>>>> systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>> crashes. rms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>> McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>>
>>> I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
>>> before I get flamed...
>>> And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>>
>>> Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>> card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>> newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>>
>>> --Looker007
>>
>>
>>
>> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's,
>> what's the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
>
> Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
> product.
> He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card";
> He asked: "What is the ideal
> aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think
> it's an ATi card,


Where are you seeing this??? The Very first post in this thread in the
ATI newsgroup has No questions at all. He simply made an observation on
what worked for him in the hope that some (non anal-retentive) people
would find his experiences helpful.


> yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
> The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't
> you agree?
>
>>
>> People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of the
>> die hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards from both
>> manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a flaming for that
>> I read both ng's daily myself as I have both brands of card running in
>> my systems right now.
>
> The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
>
>> McG. <netiquette used>
>
> I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
> I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the author
> of the
> post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any
> "off the cuff" reply.
> My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.
>

And a total waste of bandwidth along with all your attempts to defend it.

>
>>
>>

 

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Michael W. Ryder wrote:
> Looker007 wrote:
>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>
>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> rms wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>>> while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>>> Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes
>>>>>>> have disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this
>>>>>>> doesn't hold for all
>>>>>>> systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>>> crashes. rms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet
>>>> courtesy? I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how
>>>> long
>>>> before I get flamed...
>>>> And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all
>>>> video card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>>> newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>>>
>>>> --Looker007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's,
>>> what's the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
>>
>> Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
>> product.
>> He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid
>> card"; He asked: "What is the ideal
>> aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think
>> it's an ATi card,
>
>
> Where are you seeing this??? The Very first post in this thread in
> the ATI newsgroup has No questions at all. He simply made an
> observation on what worked for him in the hope that some (non
> anal-retentive) people would find his experiences helpful.
>
>
>> yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
>> The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't
>> you agree?
>>
>>>
>>> People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of
>>> the die hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards
>>> from both manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a
>>> flaming for that I read both ng's daily myself as I have both
>>> brands of card running in my systems right now.
>>
>> The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
>>
>>> McG. <netiquette used>
>>
>> I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
>> I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the
>> author of the
>> post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any
>> "off the cuff" reply.
>> My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.
>>
>
> And a total waste of bandwidth along with all your attempts to defend
> it.

Has it occurred to any of you to actually comment on the issue asked?

 

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"Bioboffin" <Reply_to_Group_please@zzz.invalid> wrote in message
news:VVx9e.40948$pA6.11995@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
<snip>
>
> Has it occurred to any of you to actually comment on the issue asked?
It occurred to me so I did - has it occurred to you?

Paul

 

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Paul Murphy wrote:
> "Bioboffin" <Reply_to_Group_please@zzz.invalid> wrote in message
> news:VVx9e.40948$pA6.11995@newsfe1-win.ntli.net...
> <snip>
>>
>> Has it occurred to any of you to actually comment on the issue asked?
> It occurred to me so I did - has it occurred to you?
>
> Paul

 

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"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
news:vDr9e.17035$Ln.791684@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>rms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>>>>hold for all
>>>>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>>crashes. rms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>>McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>>
>>>I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
>>>before I get flamed...
>>>And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>>
>>>Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>>card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>>newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>>
>>>--Looker007
>>
>>
>> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's, what's
>> the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
> Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
> product.
> He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card"; He
> asked: "What is the ideal
> aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think it's
> an ATi card,
> yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
> The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't you
> agree?
>>
>> People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of the die
>> hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards from both
>> manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a flaming for that I
>> read both ng's daily myself as I have both brands of card running in my
>> systems right now.
> The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
>> McG. <netiquette used>
> I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
> I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the author of
> the
> post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any "off
> the cuff" reply.
> My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.
>
>
>>

Looker007,
it may be my ignorance, but I completely fail to see the reason why you
said he was getting off topic.
it was clearly a person who was trying to help by telling us about his
specific example where his gf3 had weird issues and that he could not
replicate the issues with the ati9800 he replaced the GF3 with. However,
being that you know about Netiquette i would assume that you know how forums
work, especially unmoderated ones. With that being said i think the person
truely off topic would be you. when you posted that message i'm sure you
knew you were going to start a flame war. my question is why? with an
unmoderated group, why was it your responsibility to point out someone who
mentioned another product? these ati and nvidia forums were designed to keep
the main topic relevant to each company, but who is to say that they can't
have common issues or problems? and if so, why can't we talk about both
here? it's not like ati and nvida are trying to kill each other, why should
we then? i own both nvida and ati cards in my house and i know that both
cards have their place.

 

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"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
news:vDr9e.17035$Ln.791684@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
> McGrandpa wrote:
>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>
>>>McGrandpa wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>>news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>rms wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>>while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>>Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>>disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>>>>hold for all
>>>>>>systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>>crashes. rms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>
>>>>Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>>McG.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>>
>>>I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
>>>before I get flamed...
>>>And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>>
>>>Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>>card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>>newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>>
>>>--Looker007
>>
>>
>> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's, what's
>> the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
> Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
> product.
> He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid card"; He
> asked: "What is the ideal
> aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think it's
> an ATi card,
> yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
> The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't you
> agree?
>>

What question? From what I can see the OP was offering advice, not asking a
question at all.

Cheers.

 

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Michael W. Ryder wrote:
> Looker007 wrote:
>
>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>
>>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>> news:alk9e.16952$Ln.785129@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>
>>>> McGrandpa wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Looker007" <Looker007@peek-a-boo.org> wrote in message
>>>>> news:hPV8e.16360$Ln.752725@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> rms wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been seeing sporadic but fairly frequent crashes or reboots
>>>>>>> while playing CSS and other games, and after changing my AGP
>>>>>>> Aperture on this 6800GT from 256 or 128 to 64meg, the crashes have
>>>>>>> disappeared. This is on a NF7-Sv2 mobo, so perhaps this doesn't
>>>>>>> hold for all
>>>>>>> systems, but check your Aperture size if you are seeing any
>>>>>>> crashes. rms
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This an ATi group, your OFF TOPIC. Stop cross posting.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyone who disagrees then this group should be A.C.P.V only.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's a public unmoderated Usenet newsgroup.
>>>>>
>>>>> Posting was relevant. Get over it.
>>>>> McG.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Glad you think so. Ever read about NETIQUETTE, and Usenet courtesy?
>>>>
>>>> I'll post some ATi stuff on the NVIDIA newsgroup and see how long
>>>> before I get flamed...
>>>> And, oh yea it'll be as relevant as this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Ever wonder why we have A.C.P.V.Nvidia and A.C.P.V.Ati? If all video
>>>> card camps can post here what's the point of having separate
>>>> newsgroups? Re-read my post.
>>>>
>>>> --Looker007
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> If you read the AGP aperture thread on both ati and nvidia ng's,
>>> what's the problem? That thread would be applicable to both brands.
>>
>>
>> Wrong the question is for a SPECIFIC brand of video card, an NVIDIA
>> product.
>> He didn't ask: "Whats the favourable aperature setting for a vid
>> card"; He asked: "What is the ideal
>> aperture setting for an Nvidia 6800GT vid card... Hmmmm, don't think
>> it's an ATi card,
>
>
>
> Where are you seeing this??? The Very first post in this thread in the
> ATI newsgroup has No questions at all. He simply made an observation on
> what worked for him in the hope that some (non anal-retentive) people
> would find his experiences helpful.
>
>
>> yep I'm in the right newsgroup.
>> The question would have been better placed on A.C. P.MAINBOARD, don't
>> you agree?
>>
>>>
>>> People do speak "ATI" on the nvidia ng, and the reverse. Most of the
>>> die hard fanbois have been replaced by people who use cards from both
>>> manufacturers. So really, don't go looking for a flaming for that
>>> I read both ng's daily myself as I have both brands of card
>>> running in my systems right now.
>>
>>
>> The poster only says a Nvidia 6800GT is in use.
>>
>>> McG. <netiquette used>
>>
>>
>> I've used both and am with ATi at this point in time.
>> I wasn't aware my TRUE statement was a flame. I didn't tell the
>> author of the
>> post where to shove it nor did I call the poster a troll or type any
>> "off the cuff" reply.
>> My reply was/is 100% on topic for THIS newsgroup.
>>
>
> And a total waste of bandwidth along with all your attempts to defend it.
Wrong! A total waste of bandwidth is fielding comments in the newsgroup
that aren't related to ATi video cards in general.
Don't be so lazy and search the A.C.P groups, I'm sure there's one that
will fit one's question..
If your ISP doesn't carry the appropriate group then subscribe to a news
service that does.

Me waste bandwidth, hahaha, lol..in relation to what?
In the BIG scheme of things my text is but a period on some
cosmic page.

Get a life and stop defending usenet abusers.


>
>>
>>>
>>>